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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    As deniers getting more extreme you also sadly are seeing more and more nasty attacks from some deniers. There young people are getting spammed with pornography, hateful message and death threats just for using their democratic right to voice their opinion that the world's leading scientist should be listen to.

    Young female climate activists face hateful abuse online. This is how they cope.

    While a good thing is that the deniers are becoming a smaller and smaller minority and even fossil fuel companies and federal agencies under Trump have to acknowledge the urgent need for action.

    'Americans are waking up': two thirds say climate crisis must be addressed | Environment | The Guardian

    Statements on Paris climate agreement | ExxonMobil

    Fourth National Climate Assessment
    As deniers are validated, climate activists are getting more extreme.

    I find amusing that you quote Exxon/Mobile when you agree with them. That's classic.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    As deniers getting more extreme you also sadly are seeing more and more nasty attacks from some deniers. There young people are getting spammed with pornography, hateful message and death threats just for using their democratic right to voice their opinion that the world's leading scientist should be listen to.
    The truth is opposite.


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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Who Is Winning The Climate Wars?

    November 22, 2019/ Francis Menton
    • If you get most of your news passively by just reading what comes up in some kind of Facebook or Google feed or equivalent, you probably have the impression that the Climate Wars are over and the Climate Campaigners have swept the field of battle.
    • In my case, I certainly don’t rely on those kinds of toxic sources of information, but I do regularly monitor many of the media sources in the “mainstream” category — the New York Times, the Washington Post, Bloomberg, the Economist, Politico, and several of the television networks like CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN. All of those (and plenty more) have clearly put an absolute ban on any news or information that would cast even the slightest negative light on the proposition that there is an imminent “climate crisis” that must be solved by government transformation of the world economy.
    • I’ll give a couple of examples of the lengths to which this has gone. Back in September, mentally unstable Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg, whose only qualification was her ignorant passion for climate extremism, got the platform of the UN “Climate Action Summit” for a big speech.
    • Actually, out there in the world, reality continues to trump hysteria. Do you remember reports from a couple of years ago that China was ceasing to develop fossil fuel power and was becoming a “climate leader” by going all in for trendy renewables wind and solar? Well, that was to fool the dopes. Just this month, something called Global Energy Monitor is out with a new report on what’s going on on the ground in China. Bottom line: 148 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity under active construction or with construction being resumed after suspension. . . .

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What nonsense.
    At least he's consistent!
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay59 View Post
    As deniers are validated, climate activists are getting more extreme.

    I find amusing that you quote Exxon/Mobile when you agree with them. That's classic.
    The deniers can't even agree on if it will be global cooling, global warming or something between.

    "In an article for the Guardian, one of the researchers, Dana Nuccitelli points out another red flag with the climate-change-denying papers: “There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory to human-caused global warming,” he writes. “Some blame global warming on the sun, others on orbital cycles of other planets, others on ocean cycles, and so on. There is a 97% expert consensus on a cohesive theory that’s overwhelmingly supported by the scientific evidence, but the 2–3% of papers that reject that consensus are all over the map, even contradicting each other.”"


    The 3% of scientific papers that deny climate change are all flawed — Quartz

    Also why I linked to Exxon and federal agencies under Donald Trump was to show that the evidence was so overwhelming that even they had to acknowledge the urgent need for action.

    That fossil fuels companies spend hundreds of millions on delaying action on climate change. So they could have easily funded research to disprove the urgent need for action if they had been any contrary evidence.

    Oil And Gas Giants Spend Millions Lobbying To Block Climate Change Policies [Infographic]

    While Trumps wants to spend billions of dollars on propping up unprofitable coal plants so he too could easily have funded research to disprove the urgent need for action if they had been any contrary evidence. Instead you deniers can't show a single scientific report from his or Bush presidency that disprove the urgent need for action.

    Donald Trump hopes to save America’s failing coal-fired power plants - Daily chart

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Urgent action is needed to combat manmade global warming.

    "Not only is the planet undergoing one of the largest climate changes in the past 65 million years, Stanford climate scientists Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field report that it's on pace to occur at a rate 10 times faster than any change in that period. Without intervention, this extreme pace could lead to a 5-6 degree Celsius spike in annual temperatures by the end of the century."

    Stanford scientists: Climate change on pace to occur 10 times faster than any change recorded in past 65 million years

    The sad part is that many of the devastating effects of climate change and also many of costs now needed to combat manmad global warming could have been avoided if the warnings from the worlds's leading scientists had been heard in time.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Urgent action is needed to combat manmade global warming.

    "Not only is the planet undergoing one of the largest climate changes in the past 65 million years, Stanford climate scientists Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field report that it's on pace to occur at a rate 10 times faster than any change in that period. Without intervention, this extreme pace could lead to a 5-6 degree Celsius spike in annual temperatures by the end of the century."

    Stanford scientists: Climate change on pace to occur 10 times faster than any change recorded in past 65 million years

    The sad part is that many of the devastating effects of climate change and also many of costs now needed to combat man made global warming could have been avoided if the warnings from the worlds's leading scientists had been heard in time.
    The paper is a targeted review of scientific literature, they likely only targeted high scenarios!
    The 5-6 degree Celsius range looks strangely like RCP8.5, which may not even be possible to attain.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Urgent action is needed to combat manmade global warming.

    "Not only is the planet undergoing one of the largest climate changes in the past 65 million years, Stanford climate scientists Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field report that it's on pace to occur at a rate 10 times faster than any change in that period. Without intervention, this extreme pace could lead to a 5-6 degree Celsius spike in annual temperatures by the end of the century."

    Stanford scientists: Climate change on pace to occur 10 times faster than any change recorded in past 65 million years

    The sad part is that many of the devastating effects of climate change and also many of costs now needed to combat manmad global warming could have been avoided if the warnings from the worlds's leading scientists had been heard in time.
    Longview beat me to it. This is a bowl of cherries.

    They use a typical tactic, picking only the worst case scenarios and slapping an alarmist title on it. What is worse, they do not have a clear cause, nor a solution with any assurance at all. Instead it's a call to run in circles screaming.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Urgent action is needed to combat manmade global warming.

    "Not only is the planet undergoing one of the largest climate changes in the past 65 million years, Stanford climate scientists Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field report that it's on pace to occur at a rate 10 times faster than any change in that period. Without intervention, this extreme pace could lead to a 5-6 degree Celsius spike in annual temperatures by the end of the century."

    Stanford scientists: Climate change on pace to occur 10 times faster than any change recorded in past 65 million years

    The sad part is that many of the devastating effects of climate change and also many of costs now needed to combat manmad global warming could have been avoided if the warnings from the worlds's leading scientists had been heard in time.
    Says Chicken Little impersonators.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: Global leaders are facing one of the scariest years of climate change yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Urgent action is needed to combat manmade global warming.

    "Not only is the planet undergoing one of the largest climate changes in the past 65 million years, Stanford climate scientists Noah Diffenbaugh and Chris Field report that it's on pace to occur at a rate 10 times faster than any change in that period. Without intervention, this extreme pace could lead to a 5-6 degree Celsius spike in annual temperatures by the end of the century."

    Stanford scientists: Climate change on pace to occur 10 times faster than any change recorded in past 65 million years

    The sad part is that many of the devastating effects of climate change and also many of costs now needed to combat manmad global warming could have been avoided if the warnings from the worlds's leading scientists had been heard in time.
    What a stupid link you posted, the obvious politically derived screams in are based on far into the future unverified models, avoids present reality that it isn't happening like that at all.

    It is an obvious attempt to con many science illiterates into supporting draconian INCREASED government power to combat a non existent problem.

    The amazing part is WHY are you so easily conned by government?

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