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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Supply and demand...

    I wonder how long into the production of electric cars, that gasoline will be cheaper to run. Electric prices can skyrocket as demand outpaces production. Gasoline will just get cheaper as less is used at the same time.
    Electrical generation would have to be promoted by the various governments. Encouraging the building of nuclear plants for instance and other means (wind, solar, hydro etc)


    Now as for gasoline. It may not get cheaper. The infrastructure for the refining and delivery of it may decrease drastically as usage drops. Fewer gas stations and further apart. The issues that currently face electrical cars (where to get recharged ) could easily face gasoline vehicles in the future. That being said, in third world countries with poor electrical generation systems, gas and diesel will still be used heavily either directly or indirectly for transportation. The lower usage will also drive out the marginal production (Shale oil, shale gas and the oil sands to a degree) leading to still relatively high prices, combing with likely high gasoline taxes
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    0-60 mid six seconds.

    LOL...

    Tesla does that in what? 3.2 seconds?

    Ford has a long was to go.

    The Blackbird does it in 6.3 seconds, and that was an old 70's vintage without computer stuff. My SLP modified Camaro I believe is rated at 5.1 seconds.
    The top trim mach e is expected to do it in the mid 3 second range. The new Tesla truck in 3 seconds (while being bullet resistant to 9 mm handgun rounds)
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    New EV Battery Can Charge in 10 Minutes
    This is an interesting development, I wonder if they can do it without compromising the battery life,
    or worse catching the car on fire.
    There is also a trick or getting 75 Kwh of energy transferred in 10 minuets.
    Interesting for sure.

    The future looks bright.
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The top trim mach e is expected to do it in the mid 3 second range. The new Tesla truck in 3 seconds (while being bullet resistant to 9 mm handgun rounds)
    Yes, but then it costs so much more.

    I haven't looked at new car prices lately, but it seems you are getting base performance acceleration for the more powerful Mustang price. Then to get the high performance version, you have to pay about double the gasoline version.

    See my point?
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The top trim mach e is expected to do it in the mid 3 second range. The new Tesla truck in 3 seconds (while being bullet resistant to 9 mm handgun rounds)
    Now I don't know what the SLP modified I have cost new, but I can fathom it costing about $35k in 1996. Today, it's hard to find since it isn't just a SLP modified, but a convertible too. When I bought my 2000 Z28 new off the lot, its sticker price was just under $27k. The convertible option added another $6k at the time.Not considered a classic yet, but someone looking to buy one would have to pay me more than $50k to part with it now. It's very rare today considering only a few hundred convertibles were made SLP modified that year. Only 56 like mine.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but then it costs so much more.

    I haven't looked at new car prices lately, but it seems you are getting base performance acceleration for the more powerful Mustang price. Then to get the high performance version, you have to pay about double the gasoline version.

    See my point?
    The Mach E GT will have the acceleration of the GT 500 for around the same price, it will carry 5 people in comfort, as opposed to 2

    The base Mustang GT can be bought for around 40 K I believe, and will do 0-60 in the mid 4 second range

    Now in reality the Mach E should be compared more to mid size CUV's rather than 2 door coupes. The pricing and performance puts it on par with the MB GLC series, the BMW X3's etc. The Mach E GT will be priced lower than the X3 M series and the top MB GLC AMG model while have similar performance levels (not similar luxury levels which I expect will be saved for the Lincoln version sure to come.

    A very good effort by Ford, and a generally usable vehicle, but the styling and naming will I expect hurt its sales
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Now I don't know what the SLP modified I have cost new, but I can fathom it costing about $35k in 1996. Today, it's hard to find since it isn't just a SLP modified, but a convertible too. When I bought my 2000 Z28 new off the lot, its sticker price was just under $27k. The convertible option added another $6k at the time.Not considered a classic yet, but someone looking to buy one would have to pay me more than $50k to part with it now. It's very rare today considering only a few hundred convertibles were made SLP modified that year. Only 56 like mine.
    The rarity could make it a classic, the performance of those years are soundly beaten by equivalent model today. The SS today does 0-60 in the low 4 second range . The 2 L turbo with the 1LE option does it in just over 5 seconds.

    It is unbelievable the performance that cars today are getting. Especially considering that a modern Camry with the V6 engine is likely faster than all but the special packages from the muscle car heyday of the late 60s
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The rarity could make it a classic, the performance of those years are soundly beaten by equivalent model today. The SS today does 0-60 in the low 4 second range . The 2 L turbo with the 1LE option does it in just over 5 seconds.

    It is unbelievable the performance that cars today are getting. Especially considering that a modern Camry with the V6 engine is likely faster than all but the special packages from the muscle car heyday of the late 60s
    This is why I think it's laughable than an electric mustang doesn't do around 5 second base.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    This is why I think it's laughable than an electric mustang doesn't do around 5 second base.
    Remember it is more of a 5 passenger CUV than 2 door sports coupe despite the name.

    It certainly does not compare well to base Tesla's in performance
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    Re: Fast charge car batteries!

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    Interesting for sure.

    The future looks bright.
    In some ways, 75 Kwh of energy in the form of electricity in 10 minuets, is a steep hill to climb.
    That is like 480 volts at 937 amps, A single flaw could cause a deadly arc flash.
    This would not be like a gasoline fire, the damage would be done in less than a millisecond.

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