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Question for the 'denier' cult

Ok, you were all told . Anybody who questions anything about the catastrophic AGW theory is no longer a skeptic. That didn't fit the Orwellian narrative.

You were to refer to them as deniers.

So what # exactly# is being denied????
"Denier" has taken on a pejorative tone. It's used by the "we're all gonna die in 12 years" fanatics as a way to stifle discussion and debate; similar in usage to "racist", "fascist", "misogynist", etc. are used to fend off logical discussion on those topics.
 
it's not my job to prove it. it appears that you're qualified enough to disprove it though.

again, hope you're right. if not it's a huge mistake.

actually it is your job to prove it. you made the claim that millions would suffer. the burden of proof is on you.
i don't have to disprove it. you don't have to prove a negative (some exception apply).
 
actually it is your job to prove it. you made the claim that millions would suffer. the burden of proof is on you.
i don't have to disprove it. you don't have to prove a negative (some exception apply).

actually, that part is already documented. do you only listen to Sean or something?
 
"Denier" has taken on a pejorative tone.
That's because it is intended to be pejorative. Good job! You get a cookie.


It's used by the "we're all gonna die in 12 years" fanatics as a way to stifle discussion and debate; similar in usage to "racist", "fascist", "misogynist", etc. are used to fend off logical discussion on those topics.
Yeah, here's the thing. The science is settled. There is no reasonable doubt about the fact that human activity is causing the climate to change in a way that is already harmful to lots of human beings, and other organisms.

The deniers are in the same position as those who proclaim that cigarettes are carcinogenic, or that the Earth is flat, or that vaccines cause autism. Yes, the science which proves AGW really is that solid.

Thus, it is the climate change deniers who are not interested in facts or science or reasonable debate. They're partisans who deny facts to push their ideological preferences. That's why they spend so much time and effort deliberately misrepresenting the solutions, engaging in ad hominem attacks on climate scientists and activists, vainly attacking the data, and citing anything they can -- no matter how irrational or contradictory -- to try and "score points."

And yeah, we've seen all this before. The deniers are using the same tactics as employed by the cigarette industry, or opposition to earlier environmental movements. There's even some overlap in the individuals who were recruited by multinational corporations to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt in order to fend off regulation and responsibility. (Merchants of Doubt – How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming)

If you're looking for someone who is uninterested in science and dogmatic about climate change, maybe you ought to look in the mirror.
 
republicans (in general) better pray that they're right about climate change. if they're wrong they're punishing their kids, grand kids and great grand kids.

hell of a gamble for a whole bunch of people.

Id rather leave my kids a free world thats a bit warmer than a despotic world that is, well, a bit warmer.
 
Ok, you were all told . Anybody who questions anything about the catastrophic AGW theory is no longer a skeptic. That didn't fit the Orwellian narrative.

You were to refer to them as deniers.

So what # exactly# is being denied????

If I must be called a denier instead of a true scientific skeptic, then I will wear that badge proudly, as I will not worship at the alter of AGW, or any other false religion.
 
That's because it is intended to be pejorative. Good job! You get a cookie.



Yeah, here's the thing. The science is settled. There is no reasonable doubt about the fact that human activity is causing the climate to change in a way that is already harmful to lots of human beings, and other organisms.

The deniers are in the same position as those who proclaim that cigarettes are carcinogenic, or that the Earth is flat, or that vaccines cause autism. Yes, the science which proves AGW really is that solid.

Thus, it is the climate change deniers who are not interested in facts or science or reasonable debate. They're partisans who deny facts to push their ideological preferences. That's why they spend so much time and effort deliberately misrepresenting the solutions, engaging in ad hominem attacks on climate scientists and activists, vainly attacking the data, and citing anything they can -- no matter how irrational or contradictory -- to try and "score points."

And yeah, we've seen all this before. The deniers are using the same tactics as employed by the cigarette industry, or opposition to earlier environmental movements. There's even some overlap in the individuals who were recruited by multinational corporations to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt in order to fend off regulation and responsibility. (Merchants of Doubt – How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming)

If you're looking for someone who is uninterested in science and dogmatic about climate change, maybe you ought to look in the mirror.

Sorry, the mindless "settled science" bull**** is being destroyed every day. Manipulated data, questionable models, cherry-picked timeframes - all to keep government and private grants flowing to shady "experts". If the "science" really IS settled, why are there so many "scientists" still sucking up our money to do more studies?
 
Sorry, the mindless "settled science" bull**** is being destroyed every day. Manipulated data, questionable models, cherry-picked timeframes - all to keep government and private grants flowing to shady "experts". If the "science" really IS settled, why are there so many "scientists" still sucking up our money to do more studies?

NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming
 
Sorry, the mindless "settled science" bull**** is being destroyed every day. Manipulated data, questionable models, cherry-picked timeframes - all to keep government and private grants flowing to shady "experts". If the "science" really IS settled, why are there so many "scientists" still sucking up our money to do more studies?

If the science is settled, then maybe the governments of the world should stop commissioning studies, and put that money to use elsewhere.

Thing is I think, the mony has become more like hush money now. If they cut off the scientists that have been taking money for deception, they might start whistle-blowing.
 
If the science is settled, then maybe the governments of the world should stop commissioning studies, and put that money to use elsewhere.

Thing is I think, the mony has become more like hush money now. If they cut off the scientists that have been taking money for deception, they might start whistle-blowing.

Thing is, many folks don't "deny" climate change - it's been changing for millions of years, why would it not continue? And the ocean has also been rising for hundreds of thousands of years. They've found fossils of sea-going animals in friggin' Montana.
 
When you go to the doctor......you appeal to authority

Often called experts or professionals.......... you know, the folks with more education and training and experience and actually know of what they are talking about. Those evil, bad, no good people that make the deplorable look bad in comparison.
 
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