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Climate change: ‘Clear and unequivocal’ emergency, say scientists

Ha ha, you guys are so easily snookered by obvious propaganda.

They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie.

Dr. Newsom is an ECOLOGIST

Here is a short list of failed Ecologist/Biologists prediction of doom!

18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.8 years).

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

LOL
 
Here is the list of signatories, notice the many Ecologist and Biologists in the list. :lol:

LINK ONE

LINK TWO
 
Climate change: ‘Clear and unequivocal’ emergency, say scientists - BBC News


A global group of around 11,000 scientists have endorsed research that says the world is facing a climate emergency.

The study, based on 40 years of data on a range of measures, says governments are failing to address the crisis.

Without deep and lasting changes, the world is facing "untold human suffering" the study says.

The researchers say they have a moral obligation to warn of the scale of the threat.




A pretty damning report on where we currently are as a species, this on the back of the report that rising ocean levels will decimate South Easy Asia in the next 30 years. How many times are these warning going to fall on deaf ears?

Does it really have 11,000 signatures on it, or is it like unions always endorsing democrats when about half their members vote the other way?
 
Ha ha, you guys are so easily snookered by obvious propaganda.

They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie.

Dr. Newsom is an ECOLOGIST

Here is a short list of failed Ecologist/Biologists prediction of doom!

18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.8 years).

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and

Its sounds like your argument is we should not believe scientists because scientists get things wrong sometimes
 
Its sounds like your argument is we should not believe scientists because scientists get things wrong sometimes

No, it is clear you have no idea what I am talking about.

Try again, it is obvious what I am saying about it.

Did you even bother to at least skim through the paper in post one, about their claims?

:mrgreen:
 
No, it is clear you have no idea what I am talking about.

Try again, it is obvious what I am saying about it.

Did you even bother to at least skim through the paper in post one, about their claims?

:mrgreen:

What is your claim? That some scientists got some predictions wrong 50 years ago?


Ok....so what?
 
What is your claim? That some scientists got some predictions wrong 50 years ago?


Ok....so what?

Ha ha, you are not even trying, it is obvious on what I am saying, it is right in front of you!
 
Ha ha, you are not even trying, it is obvious on what I am saying, it is right in front of you!

Ok if you cant state your claim because you are afraid it will be shot down I will.


You are anti science
 
Ok if you cant state your claim because you are afraid it will be shot down I will.


You are anti science

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA< my claim is openly stated right in front of you, too bad you lack the intelligence to see it.

Hint:

"Ha ha, you guys are so easily snookered by obvious propaganda.

They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie.

Dr. Newsom is an ECOLOGIST

Here is a short list of failed Ecologist/Biologists prediction of doom!"

Lets see if you finally get see it.
 
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA< my claim is openly stated right in front of you, too bad you lack the intelligence to see it.

Hint:

"Ha ha, you guys are so easily snookered by obvious propaganda.

They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie.

Dr. Newsom is an ECOLOGIST

Here is a short list of failed Ecologist/Biologists prediction of doom!"

Lets see if you finally get see it.

You can prove they are not scientists?


Ok go ahead
 
You can prove they are not scientists?


Ok go ahead

You are too dumb to understand the hint, I never once talked about if they are scientists or not.

It is clear you will NEVER understand it.

One last try at a hint:

"They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie."
 
You are too dumb to understand the hint, I never once talked about if they are scientists or not.

It is clear you will NEVER understand it.

One last try at a hint:

"They removed the link to the signatories page, before that happened there were a long list of names with little to no background education or degree being listed. Around 3,000 thousand have no degree at all and some were just retirees, which is why the statement "11,000 scientists" is a flat out lie."

So they could be 11,000 scientists.


Ok got it
 
So they could be 11,000 scientists.


Ok got it

Nope you still don't get it.

There are lies, distortions and numerous unsubstantiated claims in the paper you never read.

It is a JOKE!

You can't be that stupid?

You are hopeless.
 
Nope you still don't get it.

There are lies, distortions and numerous unsubstantiated claims in the paper you never read.

It is a JOKE!

You can't be that stupid?

You are hopeless.

There are?


Name one
 
Nope you still don't get it.

There are lies, distortions and numerous unsubstantiated claims in the paper you never read.

It is a JOKE!

You can't be that stupid?

You are hopeless.

Youre being trolled, Tommy. Dont feed it.
 
Does it really have 11,000 signatures on it, or is it like unions always endorsing democrats when about half their members vote the other way?

It has 11k and they are all available to view online.
 
Not that I saw.

Link to the 11k please.

Sunsettommy posted a few links to the signatories:

Here is the list of signatories, notice the many Ecologist and Biologists in the list. :lol:

LINK ONE

LINK TWO

Just skimming through it, yeah, theyre all mostly just a bunch of ecologists, biologists, and graduate students, who know very little about climatology. Proves my point.

The BBC article is BS. Just the usual alarmist propaganda thats infesting the MSM these days.
 
Sunsettommy posted a few links to the signatories:



Just skimming through it, yeah, theyre all mostly just a bunch of ecologists, biologists, and graduate students, who know very little about climatology. Proves my point.

So scientists then. Good
 
Sunsettommy posted a few links to the signatories:



Just skimming through it, yeah, theyre all mostly just a bunch of ecologists, biologists, and graduate students, who know very little about climatology. Proves my point.

The BBC article is BS. Just the usual alarmist propaganda thats infesting the MSM these days.

We just had a thread where right wingers included marketing people, metallurgists, medical doctors, etc, in a list of "experts" opposing the prevailing view on AGW. Do you remember?

I ask because... uh.. you're the one who ****ing started it. And your list of 500 included a goddamned astrologer.
 
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We just had a thread where right wingers included marketing people, metallurgists, medical doctors, etc, in a list of "experts" opposing the prevailing view on AGW. Do you remember?

What thread is that? I doubt if I made such a topic. And Im not a right winger either.
 
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