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    California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    The causes of the wildfires in California are very complex, and climate change probably plays a background role, although, much like other extreme weather events, one can’t say climate change directly caused a particular fire or even a particular bad or good year for fires.

    It’s a long term issue, and one that deniers love to pretend doesn’t exist.

    But here’s a nice signal of what is going to come in the US from climate change. Insurance companies are going to assess risks more carefully and just stop insuring properties.

    Allstate is a company that has been pretty clear about the increased risks due to climate change.

    Climate Change – Allstate

    And now, it looks like they’re taking action- just simply not insuring people.

    So here you go folks- the consequences of climate change on your pocketbook, which will soon be made much worse by climate denial.

    Reality check below:

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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The causes of the wildfires in California are very complex, and climate change probably plays a background role, although, much like other extreme weather events, one can’t say climate change directly caused a particular fire or even a particular bad or good year for fires.

    It’s a long term issue, and one that deniers love to pretend doesn’t exist.

    But here’s a nice signal of what is going to come in the US from climate change. Insurance companies are going to assess risks more carefully and just stop insuring properties.

    Allstate is a company that has been pretty clear about the increased risks due to climate change.

    Climate Change – Allstate

    And now, it looks like they’re taking action- just simply not insuring people.

    So here you go folks- the consequences of climate change on your pocketbook, which will soon be made much worse by climate denial.

    Reality check below:

    Not surprising. Insurance companies as well as wildland fire organizations have been preaching Firewise. In many areas politicians and homeowners in fire prone areas have ignored the warnings.
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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The causes of the wildfires in California are very complex, and climate change probably plays a background role, although, much like other extreme weather events, one can’t say climate change directly caused a particular fire or even a particular bad or good year for fires.

    It’s a long term issue, and one that deniers love to pretend doesn’t exist.

    But here’s a nice signal of what is going to come in the US from climate change. Insurance companies are going to assess risks more carefully and just stop insuring properties.

    Allstate is a company that has been pretty clear about the increased risks due to climate change.

    Climate Change – Allstate

    And now, it looks like they’re taking action- just simply not insuring people.

    So here you go folks- the consequences of climate change on your pocketbook, which will soon be made much worse by climate denial.

    Reality check below:

    It's happening, and it's gonna snowball. 'Course, every step down the road will be deniable and changes that should take many centuries will be called normal.
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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    I know an insurance company who sent a letter to a policy holder and stated you will not be renewed unless you mitigate the following items on your property. Basically it was saying Firewise your property and home and we will issue a policy. If not, sorry. The home was not in CA but in AZ.
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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I know an insurance company who sent a letter to a policy holder and stated you will not be renewed unless you mitigate the following items on your property. Basically it was saying Firewise your property and home and we will issue a policy. If not, sorry. The home was not in CA but in AZ.


    One for sure mitigation would be to replace a wood-shake roof with tile. Forget "fireproof" treatment.

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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    There are trees and shrubs in California that need fire to reproduce. The fire burns away the plant's competition, while the plant's seed have evolved to survive a fire.

    That tells you something about California.

    Look up the knobcone pine for example. It has pine cones big enough to kill a man when they fall, the cones are covered in pitch and during a fire drop from the tree and bounce down the hills spreading fire as they go. After the cones are burned they open up a day or two later and release it's seeds.

    The increase in fires comes from fuel piling up. When there's enough fuel, dead branches, etc, a fire is sure to start. The longer the span between fires, the more fuel builds up.

    They should control burn it once ever other year or so.

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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    It is not new, I have lived here since 1962 and these fires are a yearly occurrence. Nothing to do with climate change, it is poor land management. Cut a twig in the forest and you will be fined, no one clears out the dead brush. The loss of homes is because every year they build homes deeper into known fire areas, many even rebuild a burned down home in the same spot, maybe they think everything has already burned away but, after the rains new brush sprouts all over the burned out areas and the cycle repeats the following summer. Like hurricanes on the southern east coast and tornados in the Midwest, it's a given to happen.

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    California Wildfires, Climate Change, and the Hot-Dry-Windy Fire Weather Index

    Reposted from Dr Roy Spencers Blog California Wildfires, Climate Change, and the Hot-Dry-Windy Fire Weather Index November 1st, 2019 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D. Summer and early Fall are fire season in California. It has always been this way. Most summers experience virtually no precipitation over much of California, which means that the vegetation…

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    REUTERS/Jessica Orellana Chris White Tech Reporter November 02, 2019 7:34 PM ET California Gov. Gavin Newsom railed against the state’s public utility company for blacking out large portions of the state, but some experts say regulators are partially to blame. Regulators in the state are too preoccupied with solar panels, climate change and keeping customers’…

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    Re: California Wildfires- a climate bellwether?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post

    California Wildfires, Climate Change, and the Hot-Dry-Windy Fire Weather Index

    Reposted from Dr Roy Spencers Blog California Wildfires, Climate Change, and the Hot-Dry-Windy Fire Weather Index November 1st, 2019 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D. Summer and early Fall are fire season in California. It has always been this way. Most summers experience virtually no precipitation over much of California, which means that the vegetation…

    1 day ago November 3, 2019 in Wildfires.
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