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Meaning just AGW - CO2 reduction - won't cut it?
No. I think everyone agrees we need a multi pronged approach
Meaning just AGW - CO2 reduction - won't cut it?
I answer questions as frankley as possible. I ask questions as plainly as possible.
I don't see any big difference between asking for the place worst effected by a warmer world and then clarifying it with asking for a specific place, some local council type area say.
That you react as emotionally, and irrationally, as you have been is exactly the same reation that the religious have when their ideas are challenged shows why you are unable to answer my challenges. It is not something you rationally believe it is your identity.
Please cite one of their statements where they state both?
No. I think everyone agrees we need a multi pronged approach
You mean a multi-pronged approach based on AGW-CO2 limiting?
The choice is yours, but cite as many as you like, but cite the statement that supports what you claim?Ok. One statement from one agency. Right?
The choice is yours, but cite as many as you like, but cite the statement that supports what you claim?
Wow, I wonder who added the first sentence?American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5
I have plenty more. Lol
A little reading of the AGU's actual statement finds this,Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes.
So again basing their statements on climate models.Climate models predict that global temperatures will continue to rise, with the amount of warming primarily determined by the level of emissions.
Wow, I wonder who added the first sentence?
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action."
because here is the actual statement from American Geophysical Union
https://www.agu.org/-/media/Files/S...hash=5D09205C292934139D526CA470139CEB7EAB7AE1
A little reading of the AGU's actual statement finds this,
So again basing their statements on climate models.
Basically they are simply echoing the IPCC.
No concession, the statements by all these organizations do not say what you claim.I accept your concession
No concession, the statements by all these organizations do not say what you claim.
They may issue a subjective call for action, but upon evaluation, those statements are simply
based on taking the opinion of the IPCC.
No! what you said was,"They support the evidence behind AGW and that Agw will cause problems for the planet "But they say exactly what you asked for.
Exactly
is simply that Human activity can affect climate change, and then added a subjective opinion about Rapid societal response.Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes.
No! what you said was,"They support the evidence behind AGW and that Agw will cause problems for the planet "
The AGU statement,
is simply that Human activity can affect climate change, and then added a subjective opinion about Rapid societal response.
(And we still do not know who added the first sentence in you quote.)
Not can affect....is the major influence.
Major influence
And with changes we can reduce negative outcomes.
Dont rewrite it. That is dishonest
I did not rewrite anything, but you included a quote that did not appear in their statement,
So who is being dishonest?
But let's talk about Major influence for a second, Major, from majority means greater than 50%.
Total observed warming ~.9C, total warming from CO2's no feedback response, (5.35 X ln(408/280) X .3)=.60C,
(American Chemical Society formula), yep greater than 50%.
We did not even have to invoke any the hypothetical amplified feedbacks.
Not them! I am claiming that someone added a sentence to their statement, that you quoted,So it is your claim that they are lying? Is that right?
Not them! I am claiming that someone added a sentence to their statement, that you quoted,
and that their majority statement can be satisfied without using any the predicted catastrophic amplified feedbacks.
So you admit that man is the major influence on global climate change and that rapid societal changes can reduce its negative effects?
Yes or no
No! From the available understanding of CO2's no feedback response, added CO2 can be show to account for more than
half of the observed warming, that is all. The statement about rapid societal changes is a subjective opinion having nothing to do with the science.
only in your opinion, One organization has a statement about Human activity causing a majority of the change,Well that is what the statement says.
You lose
This is how they keep the 97% alive.
only in your opinion, One organization has a statement about Human activity causing a majority of the change,
and a subjective statement about what we should do about it, that is all!
Since I can show the majority statement can be addressed without requiring any of the predicted feedbacks,
that alone does not infer agreement of the catastrophic predictions.
Actually, you did not provide much of anything.You asked.......you got
You lose
Actually, you did not provide much of anything.
but then I was not expecting much!