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Climate change protester climbs on plane, can't get down

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Climate change protester climbs on plane, can't get down - CNN Video

One man took protesting to new heights by climbing on top of a British Airways flight and live-streaming the event.
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Extinction Rebellion: Man climbs on top of plane in climate protest - BBC News

A Paralympic medallist climbed on top of a British Airways plane at London City Airport as part of ongoing protests by Extinction Rebellion.
James Brown, who is visually impaired, filmed himself clinging to the fuselage as he streamed a live message online.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick described the action as "reckless, stupid and dangerous". About 50 arrests were made at the airport.
Another man refused to sit in his seat, delaying a flight by nearly two hours.
Both men had bought flight tickets and passed through airport security.
On the fourth day of climate change protests, disruption in the UK centred on London City Airport.
Police arrested people blocking the airport entrance as others glued themselves to the floor.
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Climate alarmist cultists at it again, now theyve become a danger to airlines. If they hate planes, then they all ought to be banned from airports.

This proves climate alarmism is a religion that is devoid of science and reason. People are going to get killed by them one day.
 
Well, that is one way to take a movement and bastardize it in a haze of publicity stunt stupidity.
 
I am guessing Paralympic medalist would have found a way off that plane if it had started pushing off from the gate.
 
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[h=1]Climate Protest Fury: “they should be doing is getting off their a*** … instead of blaming everybody else”[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest essay by Eric Worrall Extinction Rebellion’s ongoing efforts to ruin ordinary folk’s daily commute, and mock hard working people with their largely government benefit funded hippy fecklessness, might not be having quite the effect they hoped. Climate protesters warn this is just the beginningBy 9News Staff Kamin Gock9:51pm Oct 11, 201 Extinction Rebellion have…
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2 days ago October 11, 2019 in Climate Communications.
 
Notice that the alarmists are staying well away from this thread. The truth hurts, thats why. :mrgreen:
 
spud_meister said:
One idiot doesn't invalidate science.
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Please show the "science" that proves a climate apocalypse is coming.

And there's more than one idiot in that movement- plenty, in fact.
 
PoS said:
Please show the "science" that proves a climate apocalypse is coming.
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Extinction rebellion are more about the coming ecological apocalypse than just a climate one. I'm sure you're familiar with the climate science, but here's some to consider on biodiversity loss

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And there's more than one idiot in that movement- plenty, in fact.
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The movement's full of idiots, but that doesn't mean they're wrong.
 
spud_meister said:
Extinction rebellion are more about the coming ecological apocalypse than just a climate one. I'm sure you're familiar with the climate science, but here's some to consider on biodiversity loss

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Funny, I dont see man made climate change as one of the major causes in this list:

10 Major Causes for the Loss of Biodiversity

I dont see any sort of evidence for mass extinctions either.
The movement's full of idiots, but that doesn't mean they're wrong
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They are very wrong since there's no proof there's going to be an end of the world scenario thats caused by AGW.
 
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[h=1]Jane Fonda, Climate Scientist, to the Rescue[/h][FONT=&quot]“This is not hyperbole!” Saying she's been inspired by Greta Thunberg, Jane Fonda tells @ABC she's going to hold a weekly protest in DC on climate change: "I'm moving here. I'm going to be here through Thanksgiving, and Christmas, sleep, rain, whatever it is." "This is a crisis." http://abcn.ws/2OF8EoL pic.twitter.com/k1Z2IC5aYu — ABC News (@ABC) October…
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spud_meister said:
One idiot doesn't invalidate science.
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This has nothing to do with science. It's about the political policies they're trying to impose and the means by which they're trying to impose them.
 
Extinction Rebellion: Police ban London protests - BBC News

[h=1]Extinction Rebellion: Police ban London protests[/h]
In a statement issued on Monday evening, the Metropolitan Police said demonstrators protesting in the capital after 21:00 GMT could be arrested.
On Twitter, the group's London branch called the move "an outrage".
The protests, which began last Monday and were due to last two weeks, have resulted in more than 1,400 arrests.
A number of demonstrations have been staged across the capital by the group, which is calling on the government to do more to tackle climate change.
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Finally! Arrest all these idiots- there are thousands of them.
 
HonestJoe said:
This has nothing to do with science. It's about the political policies they're trying to impose and the means by which they're trying to impose them.
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This thread is using those idiots to cast doubt on the science.
 
PoS said:
Funny, I dont see man made climate change as one of the major causes in this list:

10 Major Causes for the Loss of Biodiversity
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Good for you, but I wouldn't be relying on an unsourced blog post for information.

I dont see any sort of evidence for mass extinctions either.
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Here's some:
Has the Earth?s sixth mass extinction already arrived? | Nature
Defaunation in the Anthropocene | Science
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2018.2047#d3e721

They are very wrong since there's no proof there's going to be an end of the world scenario thats caused by AGW.
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If hyperbole's your thing, sure. There is plenty of proof of life-altering changes from AGW, my personal favourite being the increased risk of where I live catching on fire. Error - Cookies Turned Off
 
PoS said:
Funny, I dont see man made climate change as one of the major causes in this list:

10 Major Causes for the Loss of Biodiversity

I dont see any sort of evidence for mass extinctions either.

They are very wrong since there's no proof there's going to be an end of the world scenario thats caused by AGW.
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On a evolutionary timescale, species naturally die out at a rate of approximately five every year. We are currently seeing an extinction rate a thousand times higher than this, with the primary cause being human activity.
 
spud_meister said:
Good for you, but I wouldn't be relying on an unsourced blog post for information.



Here's some:
Has the Earth?s sixth mass extinction already arrived? | Nature
Defaunation in the Anthropocene | Science
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2018.2047#d3e721



If hyperbole's your thing, sure. There is plenty of proof of life-altering changes from AGW, my personal favourite being the increased risk of where I live catching on fire. Error - Cookies Turned Off
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Irredentist said:
On a evolutionary timescale, species naturally die out at a rate of approximately five every year. We are currently seeing an extinction rate a thousand times higher than this, with the primary cause being human activity.
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Gregory Wrightstone: exposing the mass extinction lie

Reposted from Fabius Maximus Website Larry Kummer, Editor Climate change 24 May 2019 Summary: The latest chapter of the climate campaign consists of warnings about a coming mass extinction of species. Here is a stunning analysis of these claims by Gregory Wrightstone. This made a big impact at Wednesday’s House hearings. I doubt you will…

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[FONT=&quot]A closer review of the most recent information dating back to 1870 reveals that, instead of a frightening increase, extinctions are actually in a significant decline.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]What is apparent is that the trend of extinctions is declining rather than increasing, just the opposite of what the new report claims. Also, according to the IPBES report, we can expect 25,000 to 30,000 extinctions per year, yet the average over the last 40 years is about 2 species annually. That means the rate would have to multiply by 12,500 to 15,000 to reach the dizzying heights predicted. Nothing on the horizon is likely to achieve even a small fraction of that.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]This new extinction study is just the latest example of misuse and abuse of the scientific process designed to sow fear of an impending climate apocalypse. The fear and alarm over purported man-made catastrophes are needed to frighten the population into gladly accepting harmful and economically crippling proposals such as the Green New Deal. . . . [/FONT]

 
spud_meister said:
If hyperbole's your thing, sure. There is plenty of proof of life-altering changes from AGW, my personal favourite being the increased risk of where I live catching on fire. Error - Cookies Turned Off
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Actually, wildfires are in decline.

RoyalSocietyPublishing.org › doi › full › rstb.2015.0345

Global trends in wildfire and its impacts: perceptions versus ...


by SH Doerr - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 96 - ‎Related articles
Jun 5, 2016 - Wildfire has been an important process affecting the Earth's surface and ... The 'command and control' attitude of most Western societies neglects ..... for organizing the Royal Society Discussion Meeting 'The interaction of fire ...

[h=2]Abstract[/h][FONT=&quot]Wildfire has been an important process affecting the Earth's surface and atmosphere for over 350 million years and human societies have coexisted with fire since their emergence. Yet many consider wildfire as an accelerating problem, with widely held perceptions both in the media and scientific papers of increasing fire occurrence, severity and resulting losses. However, important exceptions aside, the quantitative evidence available does not support these perceived overall trends. Instead, global area burned appears to have overall declined over past decades, and there is increasing evidence that there is less fire in the global landscape today than centuries ago. Regarding fire severity, limited data are available. For the western USA, they indicate little change overall, and also that area burned at high severity has overall declined compared to pre-European settlement. Direct fatalities from fire and economic losses also show no clear trends over the past three decades. Trends in indirect impacts, such as health problems from smoke or disruption to social functioning, remain insufficiently quantified to be examined. Global predictions for increased fire under a warming climate highlight the already urgent need for a more sustainable coexistence with fire. The data evaluation presented here aims to contribute to this by reducing misconceptions and facilitating a more informed understanding of the realities of global fire.
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Jack Hays said:
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Gregory Wrightstone: exposing the mass extinction lie

[FONT=&]Reposted from Fabius Maximus Website Larry Kummer, Editor Climate change 24 May 2019 Summary: The latest chapter of the climate campaign consists of warnings about a coming mass extinction of species. Here is a stunning analysis of these claims by Gregory Wrightstone. This made a big impact at Wednesday’s House hearings. I doubt you will…

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[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]What is apparent is that the trend of extinctions is declining rather than increasing, just the opposite of what the new report claims. Also, according to the IPBES report, we can expect 25,000 to 30,000 extinctions per year, yet the average over the last 40 years is about 2 species annually. That means the rate would have to multiply by 12,500 to 15,000 to reach the dizzying heights predicted. Nothing on the horizon is likely to achieve even a small fraction of that.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]This new extinction study is just the latest example of misuse and abuse of the scientific process designed to sow fear of an impending climate apocalypse. The fear and alarm over purported man-made catastrophes are needed to frighten the population into gladly accepting harmful and economically crippling proposals such as the Green New Deal. . . . [/FONT]
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Given the fact that the majority of species which exist on this planet have yet to be properly identified and categorized, charting a graph using solely identified extinct species cannot possibly provide an accurate representation of the current rate of species extinction.
 
Irredentist said:
Given the fact that the majority of species which exist on this planet have yet to be properly identified and categorized, charting a graph using solely identified extinct species cannot possibly provide an accurate representation of the current rate of species extinction.
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Learn before you post.

IUCN: International Union for Conservation of Nature


The International Union for Conservation of Nature is the global authority on the status of the natural world and the measures needed to safeguard it.

[h=3]IUCN Red List of Threatened ...[/h]Photo: IUCN The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species™ is the ...
 
Irredentist said:
Learn what? Nothing there about the total number of species on the planet. So I'll ask again, how can an incomplete graph of extinct species give the true rate of species extinction?
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It's their graph. The most complete on the planet.

[h=3]IUCN Red List of Threatened ...[/h]Photo: IUCN The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species™ is the ...
 
Jack Hays said:
It's their graph. The most complete on the planet.

[h=3]IUCN Red List of Threatened ...[/h]Photo: IUCN The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species™ is the ...
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If "the most complete graph" still cannot tell us what the total number of species is, or even what percentage we have discovered, then it doesn't tell us very much about the true rate of species extinction.
 
Irredentist said:
If "the most complete graph" still cannot tell us what the total number of species is, or even what percentage we have discovered, then it doesn't tell us very much about the true rate of species extinction.
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It's all explained in the linked article. The data are sound; your problem is they don't accord with your uninformed preconceptions.
 
Jack Hays said:
It's all explained in the linked article. The data are sound; your problem is they don't accord with your uninformed preconceptions.
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Yeah, I read the article. This man, Gregory Wrightstone is it, uses a very simple graph, he charts the list of species with known extinction dates over time to see the rate. Easy enough. But my question is, if there are countless species unknown to science, then there are countless more that have gone extinct that we will never know. So if we cannot rely solely on what we know, them we must also account for the unknowable.
 
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