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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I have shown you the numbers several times now. One time you actually admitted I was correct. But that didn't last long because you just went and did some goal-post moving so you could keep your faith. I think this time will be your 4th or 5th goal-post move in the same debate. This is just ridiculous.

    Oh... and your original challenge was specified to be based on the IPCC predictions. So your 4 inches over 30 is closer to the minimum predicted than the maximum.

    And I don't know where you are getting this 12 feet from. I haven't seen it anywhere in any of the sources I have shown(or seen). As far as I can tell it is completely made up! Unless you can provide us some linkage?

    Then there is your latest goal-post move where you suggest that "Cost of sea defenses renewal" be divided by 3240... Oh wait... you changed it to 1080.



    Both numbers are just crazy.

    Face it, Tim. You lost your challenge and you need to come to terms with this reality. Otherwise, all you are doing is further discrediting yourself when you keep lying about it.
    You can squeel all you liker but you have obviously failed to show that;

    1 the predicted sea level rise over 30 years globally is going to be more than 100mm. The current rate of sea level rise is 3.4mm/yr. So 30 years 100mm or so. I am being exceptionally generous here as the previous century saw 1.8mm/yr so the globalwarming component of this is 1.6mm/yr. To get to the 59cm rise by 2100 it will take 590mm-68mm(rise this century so far) / 81 (years left in the century) 6.525mm/yr rise. Given that the natural is supposed to be 1.8 and the Global warmin is adding asupposed 1.6mm then the rate of sea level rise due to global warming has to multiply by 4 to get to the massive number of less than 2 feet.

    2 The burden is upon you to justify your cliams. You have to show how big the existing sea defenses are. But here is my evidence; Google Maps I'd say a bit more than 12 feet.

    3 The goal post have not moved.

    4 30 years 1/36th of the height of the sea defenses. 1080. Origonal typo on my calculator. My numerical subconcious shouted about it being wrong so I corrected it in edit. I don't claim to be perfect. You do.

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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    What are you talking about?
    You and data not being related at all.

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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    But there was an increase in area planted. Do you understand... oh, never mind.
    Yeilds per unit area are up.

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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    ‘You’ll Be Amazed,’ Says Book Review By Japan’s Sankei Shimbun On Marc Morano’s ‘Politically Incorrect Guide’

    By P Gosselin on 13. October 2019
    By Kirye
    and Pierre Gosselin
    Recently Japanese scientist Dr. Kiyohiko Ikeda (@IkedaKiyohiko) retweeted about a newspaper book review appearing in the Sankei Shinbum, which reported on how Marc Morano’s best selling “The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change” was hitting the book market in Japan.
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    今日の産経に、地球温暖化の不都合な真実がありました。いよいよ地球温暖化、CO₂削減とは何だったか、明 らかにされています。国連の気候変動サミットも、色あせて、白々しく感じたものでした。風力発電のアホらし さは最初から分かっているのに、なぜ被害を拡大したのか。悪党よ





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    Mr. Morano’s Politically Incorrect Guide book had been recently released in the Japanese version, translated from the English by Tadashi Watanabe, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry of the University of Tokyo and Professor of Tokyo University of Science Graduate School.
    Mann lost in court
    The Sankei Shimbun book review, authored by Shohei Nagatsuji, explains how this summer an event occurred and challenges the foundation on which the existing IPCC bases its CO2 global warming theory, but which went unreported in Japan. This August, the reliability of Dr. Michael Mann’s hockey stick graph was rocked after he had lost a defamation case against a Canadian researcher [Dr. Tim Ball], who had sharply criticized the hockey stick graph.
    “Hundreds of factors” behind climate change
    The Sankei Shimbun also reports how Mr. Marc Morano’s book -「地球温暖化」の不都合な真実』- presents the criticisms of Prof. Mann and the inside workings of IPCC.

    The Japanese daily explains how Morano’s book cites scientists who say “temperature is mainly determined by water vapor and clouds, so even if CO2 is doubled or tripled, the situation would be almost the same” and that there are in fact “hundreds of factors contributing to climate change.”

    Marc Morano’s best selling “The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change” now in Japanese.
    All focus on CO2 is “misplaced”
    The Japanese daily also says Mr. Morano’s book shows how scientists from the UK and New Zealand saying that putting all the focus on CO2 is ” misplaced”.
    “…amazed at each chapter”
    According to the Sankei Shimbun:
    We recommend you take this book because it is easy to read. You’ll be amazed at each chapter. It is full of scientific controversies and scandals over global warming that are not well understood in Japan.”
    No consensus
    The Sankei Shimbun concludes that Mr. Morano’s book provides “an overall picture of the global warming issue” and that it is an issue which “can be viewed from multiple perspectives.”
    Overall it’s a very positive, welcome review for Marc Morano’s “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change” here in Japan. Recently Morano’s book has climbed near the top of the charts for books under Environment.
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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    ‘You’ll Be Amazed,’ Says Book Review By Japan’s Sankei Shimbun On Marc Morano’s ‘Politically Incorrect Guide’

    By P Gosselin on 13. October 2019
    By Kirye
    and Pierre Gosselin
    Recently Japanese scientist Dr. Kiyohiko Ikeda (@IkedaKiyohiko) retweeted about a newspaper book review appearing in the Sankei Shinbum, which reported on how Marc Morano’s best selling “The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change” was hitting the book market in Japan.
    由良 守生@zan4736511





    今日の産経に、地球温暖化の不都合な真実がありました。いよいよ地球温暖化、CO₂削減とは何だったか、明 らかにされています。国連の気候変動サミットも、色あせて、白々しく感じたものでした。風力発電のアホらし さは最初から分かっているのに、なぜ被害を拡大したのか。悪党よ





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    Mr. Morano’s Politically Incorrect Guide book had been recently released in the Japanese version, translated from the English by Tadashi Watanabe, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry of the University of Tokyo and Professor of Tokyo University of Science Graduate School.
    Mann lost in court
    The Sankei Shimbun book review, authored by Shohei Nagatsuji, explains how this summer an event occurred and challenges the foundation on which the existing IPCC bases its CO2 global warming theory, but which went unreported in Japan. This August, the reliability of Dr. Michael Mann’s hockey stick graph was rocked after he had lost a defamation case against a Canadian researcher [Dr. Tim Ball], who had sharply criticized the hockey stick graph.
    “Hundreds of factors” behind climate change
    The Sankei Shimbun also reports how Mr. Marc Morano’s book -「地球温暖化」の不都合な真実』- presents the criticisms of Prof. Mann and the inside workings of IPCC.

    The Japanese daily explains how Morano’s book cites scientists who say “temperature is mainly determined by water vapor and clouds, so even if CO2 is doubled or tripled, the situation would be almost the same” and that there are in fact “hundreds of factors contributing to climate change.”

    Marc Morano’s best selling “The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change” now in Japanese.
    All focus on CO2 is “misplaced”
    The Japanese daily also says Mr. Morano’s book shows how scientists from the UK and New Zealand saying that putting all the focus on CO2 is ” misplaced”.
    “…amazed at each chapter”
    According to the Sankei Shimbun:
    We recommend you take this book because it is easy to read. You’ll be amazed at each chapter. It is full of scientific controversies and scandals over global warming that are not well understood in Japan.”
    No consensus
    The Sankei Shimbun concludes that Mr. Morano’s book provides “an overall picture of the global warming issue” and that it is an issue which “can be viewed from multiple perspectives.”
    Overall it’s a very positive, welcome review for Marc Morano’s “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change” here in Japan. Recently Morano’s book has climbed near the top of the charts for books under Environment.
    It’s like someone literally just **** out nonsense and posted it.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    New Paper: Volcanism Can Cool Earth For Centuries, Lead To More Natural Disasters, Pandemics, Economic Recession

    By Kenneth Richard on 14. October 2019

    Scientists (Bragato and Holzhauser, 2019) find natural catastrophes like tornadoes and earthquakes and pandemics like plague, cholera, and influenza “concentrate in the periods of ice expansion in Europe” whereas periods of economic expansion and a lower incidence of natural catastrophes and pandemics occur during deglaciation phases, or warm periods. Century-scale cooling can be elicited by volcanism.


    Image Source: Bragato and Holzhauser, 2019


    Image Source: Bragato and Holzhauser, 2019

    The conclusion that volcanism can trigger centuries of global-scale cooling – and that the Little Ice Age cooling was forced by explosive volcanism – has also been postulated by McGregor et al., 2015.

    Image Source: McGregor et al., 2015

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    Re: Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency

    What you left out that utterly destroy your dishonest claim:

    Lee received his B.A. in economics from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. in economics from Rutgers University.

    Nope no actual science education at all, just a degree in ECONOMICS, just as I stated correctly.

    I had stated:

    Heck the current chairman of the IPCC has no science background at all, and the previous one was a railroad engineer......
    You made a lie by deliberated omission, about his true education status,why did you do that?

    Notice that you completely ignored this part (Over 500 Climate Scientists Declare There is no Climate Emergency), how come?

    Then your ignorance over those listed members of every IPCC report will bother you greatly.........................., once you find out that many are economists,engineers, geologists and that sort.
    Last edited by Sunsettommy; 10-14-19 at 12:26 PM.

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