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UN Warns That we Have Only 11 Years or Climate Change will Wipe Out Nations

Surface Detail said:
Did you all fail English comprehension?

The quote was: "A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

The official is almost certainly correct. The global warming trend was not reversed by the year 2000; consequently entire nations very likely will be wiped off the face of the Earth. The Maldives, for example, are now doomed unless some way can be found to extract large amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere.
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I feel so bad for the folks native to the Maldives.

Can you imagine the stupidity of folks who know that the sea level is going to rise due to climate change and are swindled into buying a house like this one?

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Sea Level Rise? President Obama Just Bought a Beachside Property | Watts Up With That?
 
code1211 said:
With respect, we are living on the planet. The planet is more or less just "the third rock from the Sun".

The whole Earthly system, existing as a part of the Solar System and all the rest, is an amazing thing that does what it does. Like a steam roller moving forward. No emotion. Just awesome power.

There is no emotional response coming from Earth. There are responses in a cause-effect sense, but no emotions.

Regarding the number of humans on the planet, the earth can obviously support a whole bunch of us. The population density of China is about five times that of the US. The US about 10 times that of Canada.

I'm not sure that this is true, but I think I've heard that the mass of living creatures below the surface of the land and water is greater than the mass of those of us living above.

All of that said, we seem to have a knack for changing our immediate environment. The land in the Boston-Washington corridor is pretty much a trash heap vs what the pilgrims found.

If we all died today, after about 100 years, it would look more like the world the Mohicans left us than the world the modern commuter navigates. For better or worse, we are fleas on a dog.

After the next ice age, what we built in New York City will be unnoticeable.
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I like your metaphor, fleas on a dog. Very apt.
 
Perotista said:
I like your metaphor, fleas on a dog. Very apt.
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I can't take credit for that. Crocodile Dundee said it to a city dweller that was conversing with him in, I think, the first Crocodile Dundee movie.
 
Perotista said:
I like your metaphor, fleas on a dog. Very apt.
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I think humans are less than fleas on a dog, we're more like a patch of bacteria on a dog.
 
code1211 said:
The UN issued a warning that we have only 11 years to stop Climate Change.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

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UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.
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At this time, the Maldives are not underwater and are actively promoting their tourist industry.

The UN spokesperson went on to say:

"The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown."

This was so long ago that the spokesperson was referred to in the article as a spokesman.

The "next 30 years" referenced in his prediction of dire consequence ended in June, 2019. At this time we are just a tad under the 7 degree global temperature increase he cited.

Sea levels have not risen by 3 feet.

It's interesting that the magnitude of the error in these predictions was extreme back then and that the magnitude of the predictions of dire consequence has not changed much over the last 30 years.

This guy said we had 11 years to act in 1989. Now AOC says we are down to about 12 years to act before the situation is no longer salvageable. Seems like thje number of years we have left to act is growing over time.

Given that the deadline IS ALWAYS more than 10 years, we seem to be in a bubble of safety in which the danger NEVER gets closer than a decade away.

Seems like we can relax. ;)

Why is ANYONE still listening to these jack wagons?
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And we listened to them in the 1970's-1990's that we were headed into another ice age, it seem that they can only ride these band wagons for about 20 years. 2000-2020 it global warming, I'm wondering what will come next when this doesn't work for them anymore.
 
Haven't any of you lefties understood my remarks in post 3?
 
Terryj said:
And we listened to them in the 1970's-1990's that we were headed into another ice age, it seem that they can only ride these band wagons for about 20 years. 2000-2020 it global warming, I'm wondering what will come next when this doesn't work for them anymore.
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Very true, I actually bought a book at that time titled: How to Prepare for the Coming Ice Age. There are still books being put out on it, many have it starting as early as 2025 and others at 2050. If something else is to follow now I imagine it may be something like, We Must Stop the Asteroids or Die Like the Dinosaurs. Can't remember how many times I have heard it's the end for man, when I was a teen we even had a midnight party on the night the Earth was supposed to end at midnight.
 
PoS said:
I think humans are less than fleas on a dog, we're more like a patch of bacteria on a dog.
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In the matrix, I think the really bad guy agent referred to people as a virus.

Bacteria. Virus. My Liberal Arts Degrees don't equip me to even understand the difference.

I think there are several beneficial bacteria. Beneficial viruses seem less common...
 
Terryj said:
And we listened to them in the 1970's-1990's that we were headed into another ice age, it seem that they can only ride these band wagons for about 20 years. 2000-2020 it global warming, I'm wondering what will come next when this doesn't work for them anymore.
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Dr. James Hansen presented his prediction (projection?) of imminent climate warming to the Senate in 1988.

At that time, he proclaimed a climate emergency demanding immediate response or it would be too late.

Under Hansen's guidance and direction, NASA has revised data and those revisions have resulted in temps before 1970 to be made cooler and temps after 1970 to be made warmer.

Hansenization is an interesting climate influencer.

Hansen Senate Testimony, June 23, 1988

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code1211 said:
Dr. James Hansen presented his prediction (projection?) of imminent climate warming to the Senate in 1988.

At that time, he proclaimed a climate emergency demanding immediate response or it would be too late.

Under Hansen's guidance and direction, NASA has revised data and those revisions have resulted in temps before 1970 to be made cooler and temps after 1970 to be made warmer.

Hansenization is an interesting climate influencer.

Hansen Senate Testimony, June 23, 1988

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Keep in mind, that here we are in 2019, having exceeded Hansen's Scenario A emissions by roughly 35%, and
yet we are no where near the temperature projected on the to of the graph by this point(.85 C vs 1.5 C).
 
longview said:
Keep in mind, that here we are in 2019, having exceeded Hansen's Scenario A emissions by roughly 35%, and
yet we are no where near the temperature projected on the to of the graph by this point(.85 C vs 1.5 C).
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That's something that is always ignored by the CAGW Proponents.

They grab Scenario C and say, "Hansen Was Right!" They don't seem to want to understand. Otherwise, given the exceptional wisdom which they claim to possess, they'd understand.

They don't seem to understand that this graphic presentation only reinforces the fact that he was wrong.

If the science used demands a particular outcome that does not occur in the real world, which one is wrong?

Is it the science that is wrong or is it the real world that is wrong? If you're a Climate Alarmist, it's the real world.

Amazing denial of science to support their claimed reverence of the value of science.
 
code1211 said:
That's something that is always ignored by the CAGW Proponents.

They grab Scenario C and say, "Hansen Was Right!" They don't seem to want to understand. Otherwise, given the exceptional wisdom which they claim to possess, they'd understand.

They don't seem to understand that this graphic presentation only reinforces the fact that he was wrong.

If the science used demands a particular outcome that does not occur in the real world, which one is wrong?

Is it the science that is wrong or is it the real world that is wrong? If you're a Climate Alarmist, it's the real world.

Amazing denial of science to support their claimed reverence of the value of science.
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Hansen's own words in the text below the graphic condemn the accuracy of his graph.
"Scenario A assumes continued growth rates of trace gas emissions typical of the last 20 years, "
The growth of CO2 from 1968 to 1988, was 1.4 ppm per year.
The growth of CO2 from 1988 to 2018, was 1.9 ppm per year.
So we have had greater emissions than Scenario A, but have warmed between B and C.
 
code1211 said:
The UN issued a warning that we have only 11 years to stop Climate Change.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

<snip>
UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.
<snip>

At this time, the Maldives are not underwater and are actively promoting their tourist industry.

The UN spokesperson went on to say:

"The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown."

This was so long ago that the spokesperson was referred to in the article as a spokesman.

The "next 30 years" referenced in his prediction of dire consequence ended in June, 2019. At this time we are just a tad under the 7 degree global temperature increase he cited.

Sea levels have not risen by 3 feet.

It's interesting that the magnitude of the error in these predictions was extreme back then and that the magnitude of the predictions of dire consequence has not changed much over the last 30 years.

This guy said we had 11 years to act in 1989. Now AOC says we are down to about 12 years to act before the situation is no longer salvageable. Seems like thje number of years we have left to act is growing over time.

Given that the deadline IS ALWAYS more than 10 years, we seem to be in a bubble of safety in which the danger NEVER gets closer than a decade away.

Seems like we can relax. ;)

Why is ANYONE still listening to these jack wagons?
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Did they set fire under China and India's rear ends through all these years?
 
longview said:
Hansen's own words in the text below the graphic condemn the accuracy of his graph.
"Scenario A assumes continued growth rates of trace gas emissions typical of the last 20 years, "
The growth of CO2 from 1968 to 1988, was 1.4 ppm per year.
The growth of CO2 from 1988 to 2018, was 1.9 ppm per year.
So we have had greater emissions than Scenario A, but have warmed between B and C.
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This is exactly what the drones toeing the party line strive to hide.

The "science" they embrace is actually propaganda. They use their mislabeled propaganda to bludgeon anyone who actually THINKS when they hear this stuff.

Either they are idiots or they are deceptive participants in the ruse.
 
Lovebug said:
Did they set fire under China and India's rear ends through all these years?
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Seems like the fire setting has been taken care of by India and China with no interference needed from the international community at all.

These two are together bringing another coal-fired electric plant on line about every week or so.

What the US does to reduce the emissions from our .3 billion folks hardly makes a dent in the emissions produced by those 2 billion or so folks living in China and India.

They must love their cigars as much as Groucho Marx loved his. On the other hand, maybe a cigar is just a cigar. ;)
 
Lovebug said:
Did they set fire under China and India's rear ends through all these years?
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Nobody did anything since the 30 years this warning was given and guess what? There has been no climate apocalypse.
 
PoS said:
Nobody did anything since the 30 years this warning was given and guess what? There has been no climate apocalypse.
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But you're wrong. Those who believe it see catastrophe everywhere. They have become individual Chicken Littles.
 
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