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Climate deniers get more media play than scientists: study

Bergslagstroll said:
Media have for a long time failed in their reporting about climate change.


“From 2000 through 2016, hundreds of academics, business people and politicians who doubted global warming or attributed rising temperatures to "natural" causes got 50 percent more ink than an equal number of top scientists, according to a study in Nature Communications, a peer-reviewed journal.

Even in a more select group of mainstream English language news outlets with high standards of evidence—from the New York Times and The Guardian to The Wall Street Journal and the Daily Telegraph—sceptics were still cited slightly more often.

In reality, there has long been overwhelming agreement among climate scientists that global warming—caused mainly by burning fossil fuels—poses a major threat to civilisation and much of life on Earth.”


Climate deniers get more media play than scientists: study

There you at the same time have had massive disinformation campaigns from the fossil fuel industry.

Tobacco and Oil Industries Used Same Researchers to Sway Public - Scientific American

Doubt over climate science is a product with an industry behind it | Graham Readfearn | Environment | The Guardian

That because of that we are now running out of time in avoiding many of the devastating effects of climate change.

Limiting Warming to 1.5deg Celsius Will Require Drastic Action, IPCC Says - Scientific American
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What a sad development to see that warmists applaud a libelous paper because they believe in squelching free speech and dissent to a contrived modeling consensus nonsense.

Legal warning have been issued and lawyers are getting ready to sue for libel.

Maybe this will finally stop the persecution of skeptics madness warmists promote?
 
Jack Hays said:
In this, as in much else, Professor Judith Curry points the way to integrity.

"This ranks as the worst paper I have ever seen published in a reputable journal."


The latest travesty in ‘consensus enforcement’

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The latest travesty in consensus ‘enforcement’, published by Nature.
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Curry tries to claim the global temperatures are declining, not rising. She is clearly a kook (yes, they exist among all professions, including education).
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The same obvious news media bias exists in the reporting airline and motor vehicle traffic stories - the majority of trips result in no "accidents" but the teeny, tiny number of trips that do not end well get far more news coverage. The same is true of typical and legal gun use - it rarely gets reported, but gun abuse events (called "gun crime") get loads of news coverage. It is something being the exception, rather than the rule, which makes the news media find it more worth noting.
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It rarely gets reported because illegal shooting in the US outnumber defensive shootings by a factor of over 30 to one according to your own FBI figures
 
COTO said:
At least it wasn't "Here we show via direct comparison that the evil guys are featured in 49% more media articles than the good guys."

Glass half full. :coffeepap
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True, but they expect the alarmist drones, like the ones here on DP, to go with the "evil guys" comparison ...and they do, of course.
 
flogger said:
It rarely gets reported because illegal shooting in the US outnumber defensive shootings by a factor of over 30 to one according to your own FBI figures
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That is a meaningless use of statistics which assumes (implies?) that DGU requires (or normally involves) firing the gun and/or reporting of the incident (e.g. a criminal act prevented/stopped by brandishing a gun) to the FBI. Much like saying that the number of (reported) car "accident" victims exceeds the (reported) number of injuries and deaths avoided due to the use of defensive driving techniques. How complete a statistical data set is, believe it or not, is very important to consider.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Media have for a long time failed in their reporting about climate change.
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"Climate Change" will be reported on less and less
as time goes by because there's a new meme in town
as told by The Columbia Journalism Review:

Transforming the media’s coverage of the climate crisis

In these and other venues, we hope that journalists and others
will talk about, report on, analyze, and debate how news outlets
should cover the rapidly uncoiling climate crisis and its solutions.​

A Google News Search finds:

"Climate Crisis"
About 4,010,000 results (0.57 seconds)
"Climate Change"
About 127,000,000 results (0.51 seconds)

That's 3% for "Climate Crisis" It will be interesting
to see if that number grows over time.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That is a meaningless use of statistics which assumes (implies?) that DGU requires (or normally involves) firing the gun and/or reporting of the incident (e.g. a criminal act prevented/stopped by brandishing a gun) to the FBI. Much like saying that the number of (reported) car "accident" victims exceeds the (reported) number of injuries and deaths avoided due to the use of defensive driving techniques. How complete a statistical data set is, believe it or not, is very important to consider.
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And how many successful armed robberies required that a gun not be fired ..... nuff said :roll:
 
flogger said:
And how many successful armed robberies required that a gun not be fired ..... nuff said :roll:
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How, exactly, does one manage an "illegal shooting" without firing the gun? BTW, a 'successful' armed robbery would remain an open case.
 
Geoist said:
Curry tries to claim the global temperatures are declining, not rising. She is clearly a kook (yes, they exist among all professions, including education).
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You are quite uninformed. Professor Curry does not dispute the long term warming trend. Learn first. Then post.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but there is a difference between denial of X and saying that X is the major (primary?) cause of Y and/or requires (political) action plan Z.

For example, one is not denying that mass shootings exist or contribute to "gun crime" if (when?) they point out that mass shootings are a only a small part of total "gun crime" ("gun deaths"?) or object to the assertion that a specific "gun control" law is going to have a significant impact on mass shootings or even on total "gun crime".

Many so called "deniers" can agree that AGW exists along with other influences (causes?) of "climate change", yet not see AGW as reason to "scientifically" support a carbon tax or other massive expansion of government power/control.
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Most deniers would agree on the same theory/model if they had been any credible alternative theory to the scientific consensus on the urgent need for action on manmade global warming. Instead the deniers can’t even agree on if there are global cooling, global warming or something between right now.

Also federal agencies under Bush and now Trump would have funded and published research about any credible alternative theory. Instead even federal agencies under Trump acknowledge the urgent need for action like for example NASA.

Effects | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Fossil fuel companies are among the most profitable companies in the world so they could have easily funded and publishes research into any credible alternative theory. Instead even they have to acknowledge the urgent need for action on climate change.

Climate change and energy transitions | Shell Global

That it's the media's failure to report about climate change and the massive disinformation from the fossil fuel companies that is the big reasons for climate denialism.

“In 2009 came a fact that would be oft-repeated—that 97 percent of scientists with expertise on climate and atmosphere believed in a link between human-generated greenhouse gases and global warming. That’s a level of consensus only slightly below that of the existence of gravity and equivalent to scientific evidence linking tobacco use and cancer.

Given this level of confidence, says Oreskes, the goal of journalists should have been accuracy rather than balance. Journalists, in other words, wouldn’t have provided “balance” to a debate on gravity, giving equal time to someone asserting that it doesn’t exist; why would they for climate change? As for the two or three percent of so-called skeptics, Oreskes says journalists should be evaluating the motives for their dissent, especially given the history of industry- and think tank-led disinformation campaigns.”

The danger of fair and balanced - Columbia Journalism Review

The blame is also on right wing politicians that turned the science of climate change into a partisan issue instead of offer their own solutions. While left wing politicians also often failed to inform and offer solutions to combat climate change. That it would have been much less costly and easily to avoid the devastating effects of climate change if the warnings from the scientists had been heard during the 90’s.

Also carbon tax could and should be a bipartisan issue because it simply a way to get a more accurate price on goods and services by accounting for some of the social costs those goods and service leads to. That the debate should instead be on what to do with the money from the carbon tax. For example invest in infrastructure and government services, pay it back in equal share to the citizens or lower taxes.
 
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~ As more scientists who are not on government payrolls come out to speak on the skeptical nature of pending doom from climate the media is forced to comply.
:roll:´ Looks like soon big government will have to create another frightening scenario to sway votes !
 
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LosAngelesAngel said:
~ As more scientists who are not on government payrolls come out to speak on the skeptical nature of pending doom from climate the media is forced to comply.
:roll:´ Looks like soon big government will have to create another frightening scenario to sway votes !
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Republicans controlled both houses of congresses and the presidency for two years and still controls the senate and the presidency. Trump also tried to influence the federal agencies by for example appointing a former climate denier as head of NASA, but it didn’t work. Because Jim Bridenstine, a Republican from Oklahoma looked at the overwhelming evidence and know acknowledge the scientific consensus on manmade global warming.

'"I don't deny the consensus," Bridenstine said at a NASA town hall meeting. "I believe fully in climate change and that we human beings are contributing to it in a major way."

When asked why he changed his mind, Bridenstine told The Washington Post, "I heard a lot of experts, and I read a lot. I came to the conclusion myself that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, that we've put a lot of it into the atmosphere, and therefore we have contributed to the global warming that we've seen."'

Trump's NASA Chief Changed His Mind on Climate Change. He Is a Scientific Hero. | Space
 
You have many positive examples from around the world that show that a transition away from fossil fuel is possible. For example that 68 percent of electricity came from renewables last year in Denmark and almost half of new cars sales are electric so far this year in Norway. So it could have been relative easy to avoid many of the devastating of climate change if the warnings had been heard in time.

As Wind Turned Down A Notch, Solar Soared -- 2018 Renewable Energy Report Denmark | CleanTechnica

Norway Sold More Electric Vehicles in First Half of Year

There renewables are also starting to out compete fossil fuels.

Renewable energy costs hit new lows, cheap new power option - Electrek

Sadly the transition now comes to late so it will be hard to avoid many of the devastating effects, because of the lack of action on climate change for so many decades. Still we can't give up because there are still a lot that can be done and inaction will lead to even more devastating effects.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Republicans controlled both houses of congresses and the presidency for two years and still controls the senate and the presidency. Trump also tried to influence the federal agencies by for example appointing a former climate denier as head of NASA, but it didn’t work. Because Jim Bridenstine, a Republican from Oklahoma looked at the overwhelming evidence and know acknowledge the scientific consensus on manmade global warming.

'"I don't deny the consensus," Bridenstine said at a NASA town hall meeting. "I believe fully in climate change and that we human beings are contributing to it in a major way."

When asked why he changed his mind, Bridenstine told The Washington Post, "I heard a lot of experts, and I read a lot. I came to the conclusion myself that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, that we've put a lot of it into the atmosphere, and therefore we have contributed to the global warming that we've seen."'

Trump's NASA Chief Changed His Mind on Climate Change. He Is a Scientific Hero. | Space
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More propaganda.

I have shown you guys the whole video for context, and you still perpetrate this lie.

Pathetic.
 
Lord of Planar said:
More propaganda.

I have shown you guys the whole video for context, and you still perpetrate this lie.

Pathetic.
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I saw that video. He said the exact statements mentioned. Nothing out-of-context.
 
Media_Truth said:
I saw that video. He said the exact statements mentioned. Nothing out-of-context.
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I guess you are not understanding what it means how he said it vs. how your single snippet makes it sound. Or maybe you do? Maybe you like being intellectually deceptive. That shows you have no honor, or morals, but in some ways it's better than the ignorance you appear to have.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I guess you are not understanding what it means how he said it vs. how your single snippet makes it sound. Or maybe you do? Maybe you like being intellectually deceptive. That shows you have no honor, or morals, but in some ways it's better than the ignorance you appear to have.
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He's a fake "engineer.":lamo
 
calamity said:
The price of denial

Poland, Slovakia Lightning Kills at Least 5, Injures 150 | The Weather Channel
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Extreme weather events and climate disasters are already getting more common all across the world.

"Extreme weather events, worsened by climate change, are taking a toll on people’s lives from Argentina to China and Ecuador to Malaysia. And the United Nations says these catastrophes are only expected to become more frequent, reaching a rate of one disaster per week, the Guardian reported.

Many natural calamities in various parts of the world, such as Cyclone Idai in Mozambique and widespread droughts in India, have garnered international attention due to the large-scale impact they've had on nearby communities. But “lower-impact events” are also causing death, displacement, and suffering at a much faster rate than predicted, Mami Mizutori, the UN secretary-general’s special representative on disaster risk reduction, told the Guardian."

A Climate Disaster Takes Place Every Week Around the World, UN Says
 
Sadly the media continue to under-report about climate change and it's devastating effects.

"Climate change was responsible for the majority of under-reported humanitarian disasters last year, according to analysis of more than a million online news stories.

Whole populations were affected by food crises in countries ravaged by by drought and hurricanes such as Ethiopia and Haiti, yet neither crisis generated more than 1,000 global news stories each.

In Madagascar, more than a million people went hungry as corn, cassava and rice fields withered under drought and severe El Niño conditions. Almost half the country’s children have been stunted, but their suffering sparked few headlines."

Climate change 'cause of most under-reported humanitarian crises' | Science | The Guardian
 
PoS said:
He seems to think lightning strikes are caused by climate change. :lamo
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Interesting.

Isn't warmer weather suppose to increase the absolute humidity?

Don't wetter conditions lead to less static rather than more?

Color me confused...
 
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