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July 2019 - May be the warmest month ever recorded.

I found this interesting from the original link --->

"This particular month has been very warm but to me this is not really the main point. The main point is that not only has this month been very warm, but last month was very warm. All months during 2019 have been very warm in terms of comparison with other years," Dr Freja Vamborg from Copernicus told BBC News.

"And that trend is not likely to stop unless we do something about curbing greenhouse gas emissions."
 
lwf said:
I'm pointing out that he is peddling pseudoscience on a fringe website. This is enough for me to ignore his ramblings in favor of actual scientific consensus.
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Only politics is derived by consensus science is derived by empirical data

Ergo AGW is the voodoo science for the terminally gullible
 
flogger said:
Only politics is derived by consensus science is derived by empirical data

Ergo AGW is the voodoo science for the terminally gullible
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At least your argument is logical. I can tell by your use of the word "ergo."
 
Actual facts are important, despite the rhetoric of those who choose to ignore them. From the original link --->

New temperature records were set in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany as the mercury went above 40C in many places. A new UK heat record was set with 38.7C at Cambridge University's Botanic Garden.
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Wildfires have raged across the Arctic with millions of hectares burning in northern parts of Russia. India has suffered heatwaves and severe water shortages. Japan saw more than 5,000 people seek hospital treatment due to a heatwave last week.
 
lwf said:
I'm afraid it's true. Roy Spencer is a creationist. During a U.S. Senate hearing, Senator Whitehouse asked Roy Spencer, "Do you still believe that the Theory of Creation actually has a much better scientific basis than the Theory of Evolution, to be specific?"

To which Roy Spencer replied, "I think I could be put into a debate with someone on the other side and I think I could give more science supporting that life is created than they could support, with evidence, that life evolved through natural random processes, so yes."

He went on to say, "I mean there’s a lot of work out there that’s shown that you can not statistically combine all of the elements that are contained in the DNA molecule by chance over however many billions of years you want to invoke or how many, how much known universe there is with all of the matter in it."
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Belief in intelligent design and belief in evolution are not necessarily in conflict. Spencer's beliefs are no more disqualifying than those of thousands of other scientists around the world. You might want to check your anti-religious bigotry.
For the record, I'm agnostic.
 
Jack Hays said:
Belief in intelligent design and belief in evolution are not necessarily in conflict. Spencer's beliefs are no more disqualifying than those of thousands of other scientists around the world. You might want to check your anti-religious bigotry.
For the record, I'm agnostic.
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"I could give more science supporting that life is created than they could support, with evidence, that life evolved through natural random processes."

This statement alone disqualifies his opinion as one of authority. These are not the words of a dispassionate scientist. These are the words of someone who has made a decision and who is collecting as much evidence as he can to support it. This is not science, and yet this is how he operates, and this is the only way that climate deniers are able to operate. They have their handful of pseudo-authorities who write blogs and maintain websites that they cling to in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary which can be found in thousands of reputable peer-reviewed sources* from actual scientists all around the world.

*If you think "peer-reviewed sources" can't be trusted because your peers are all in on a big conspiracy, or are just stupid, and you are one of the select few who knows the real truth, you might be a conspiracy theorist.
 
lwf said:
I'm pointing out that he is peddling pseudoscience on a fringe website. This is enough for me to ignore his ramblings in favor of actual scientific consensus.
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Go to the Cornwell Alliance conservative religious Dominionists website and read their landmark documents to see Roy Spencer’s beliefs about climate change. He is not motivated by science.

Landmark Documents
 
Media_Truth said:
UAH never corrected their satellite temperature records. RSS made this correction.

Major correction to satellite data shows 140% faster warming since 1998

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Here's the FAQ on RSS about version 4:

Remote Sensing Systems

Here's their published paper about version 4:

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0768.1

RSS didn't start release their version 4 publicly until after they published their paper.


As for the UAH analysis: Remember that Spencer and Christy took almost 18 months to publish their paper about their UAH version 6.x after they had already released their V6.x to the public. They also have a long history of not correcting their own mistakes until other scientist had to correct their errors for them.
 
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lwf said:
"I could give more science supporting that life is created than they could support, with evidence, that life evolved through natural random processes."

This statement alone disqualifies his opinion as one of authority. These are not the words of a dispassionate scientist. These are the words of someone who has made a decision and who is collecting as much evidence as he can to support it. This is not science, and yet this is how he operates, and this is the only way that climate deniers are able to operate. They have their handful of pseudo-authorities who write blogs and maintain websites that they cling to in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary which can be found in thousands of reputable peer-reviewed sources* from actual scientists all around the world.

*If you think "peer-reviewed sources" can't be trusted because your peers are all in on a big conspiracy, or are just stupid, and you are one of the select few who knows the real truth, you might be a conspiracy theorist.
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As I said, you should check your anti-religious bigotry. Nothing in the quoted statement would in any way impede research identical to that conducted by a non-religious scientist.
I don't believe in conspiracies in science.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
July is now confirmed as the warmest month on record and every month this year ranks among the four warmest on record for the month in question.

July confirmed as hottest month on record - BBC News
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Fake news.

[h=2]July 2019 Was Not the Warmest on Record[/h]August 2nd, 2019July 2019 was probably the 4th warmest of the last 41 years. Global “reanalysis” datasets need to start being used for monitoring of global surface temperatures. [NOTE: It turns out that the WMO, which announced July 2019 as a near-record, relies upon the ERA5 reanalysis which apparently departs substantially from the CFSv2 reanalysis, making my proposed reliance on only reanalysis data for surface temperature monitoring also subject to considerable uncertainty].
We are now seeing news reports (e.g. CNN, BBC, Reuters) that July 2019 was the hottest month on record for global average surface air temperatures.
One would think that the very best data would be used to make this assessment. After all, it comes from official government sources (such as NOAA, and the World Meteorological Organization [WMO]).
But current official pronouncements of global temperature records come from a fairly limited and error-prone array of thermometers which were never intended to measure global temperature trends. The global surface thermometer network has three major problems when it comes to getting global-average temperatures: . . .
 
Jack Hays said:
Fake news.

[h=2]July 2019 Was Not the Warmest on Record[/h]August 2nd, 2019July 2019 was probably the 4th warmest of the last 41 years. Global “reanalysis” datasets need to start being used for monitoring of global surface temperatures. [NOTE: It turns out that the WMO, which announced July 2019 as a near-record, relies upon the ERA5 reanalysis which apparently departs substantially from the CFSv2 reanalysis, making my proposed reliance on only reanalysis data for surface temperature monitoring also subject to considerable uncertainty].
We are now seeing news reports (e.g. CNN, BBC, Reuters) that July 2019 was the hottest month on record for global average surface air temperatures.
One would think that the very best data would be used to make this assessment. After all, it comes from official government sources (such as NOAA, and the World Meteorological Organization [WMO]).
But current official pronouncements of global temperature records come from a fairly limited and error-prone array of thermometers which were never intended to measure global temperature trends. The global surface thermometer network has three major problems when it comes to getting global-average temperatures: . . .
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Ah, the creationist says it’s only the fourth warmest month. Fake news. We can all relax. Here’s how the alleged merely fourth warmest month unfolded across the globe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...-history-unfolded-around-globe/?noredirect=on
 
lwf said:
Article was written by a "scientist" who doesn't accept the theory of evolution.
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LOL Next we will be hearing form the flat-earthers. It's getting more and more difficult to find material for deniers.
 
JackA said:
Ah, the creationist says it’s only the fourth warmest month. Fake news. We can all relax. Here’s how the alleged merely fourth warmest month unfolded across the globe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...-history-unfolded-around-globe/?noredirect=on
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iguanaman said:
LOL Next we will be hearing form the flat-earthers. It's getting more and more difficult to find material for deniers.
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Not a good look to respond to data with ad hominem and anti-religious bigotry.
Note the WaPo story admits NASA and NOAA are not yet heard from.
 
Jack Hays said:
Not a good look to respond to data with ad hominem and anti-religious bigotry.
Note the WaPo story admits NASA and NOAA are not yet heard from.
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It’s not bigotry to deride creationism, and the response was the Post article with its sources.
 
Jack Hays said:
Not a good look to respond to data with ad hominem and anti-religious bigotry.
Note the WaPo story admits NASA and NOAA are not yet heard from.
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LOL This is not a "good look "for deniers like you...... Here is some "sledding" on the Greenland Ice sheet.

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But you are right about climate predictions being off... This was not supposed to happen until 2070

During the past week, temperatures at the highest reaches of the Greenland ice sheet rose above freezing, melting snow at the Summit Station (10,550 feet above sea level) for the first time since July 2012 and perhaps only the third time in the last seven centuries.

Across lower elevations around the margins of the ice sheet, bare glacial ice melted at an unprecedented rate, losing 12.5 billion tons of water on Thursday alone, with daily losses likely exceeding any point in at least the past 70 years.

The Greenland ice sheet covers an area the size of Alaska with enough ice to raise global sea level by more than 20 feet. Greenland gains ice each winter from compacting snow accumulation and loses ice from melt water and icebergs discharged to the ocean. A dry, warm spring this year left a thin snow cover over bare glacial ice. Spring warming followed by a large melt event in June led scientist Jason Box of the Geological Survey of Greenland to predict record ice losses this year. The peak of the melt season passed in mid-July with more typical summer conditions, but the past week again saw a large increase in the area and intensity of melt across the Northern Hemisphere’s remaining ice sheet.
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Greenland's ice wasn't supposed to melt like last week until 2070 | TheHill
 
Jack Hays said:
Fake news.

[h=2]July 2019 Was Not the Warmest on Record[/h]August 2nd, 2019July 2019 was probably the 4th warmest of the last 41 years. Global “reanalysis” datasets need to start being used for monitoring of global surface temperatures. [NOTE: It turns out that the WMO, which announced July 2019 as a near-record, relies upon the ERA5 reanalysis which apparently departs substantially from the CFSv2 reanalysis, making my proposed reliance on only reanalysis data for surface temperature monitoring also subject to considerable uncertainty].
We are now seeing news reports (e.g. CNN, BBC, Reuters) that July 2019 was the hottest month on record for global average surface air temperatures.
One would think that the very best data would be used to make this assessment. After all, it comes from official government sources (such as NOAA, and the World Meteorological Organization [WMO]).
But current official pronouncements of global temperature records come from a fairly limited and error-prone array of thermometers which were never intended to measure global temperature trends. The global surface thermometer network has three major problems when it comes to getting global-average temperatures: . . .
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Does your same site state that June was the hottest June ever?
 
JackA said:
It’s not bigotry to deride creationism, and the response was the Post article with its sources.
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A substantial number of scientists worldwide subscribe to one or another version of creationism. Many versions have no effect on scientific work.
For the record, I'm agnostic.
As for the WaPo, its admission that NOAA and NASA are not yet heard from puts the article in the propaganda category.
 
JackA said:
It’s not bigotry to deride creationism, and the response was the Post article with its sources.
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Yes even the Pope has said that the Creation myth is a allegory and should not be taken literally and he believes in evolution too. Hays is just grasping at straws like all deniers. It won't be long before all of them switch to being pro-warmers preaching a "tropical utopia" coming. You can't be fussy about integrity when you are a pawn.

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Threegoofs said:
Preliminary data shows that July may end up bring the warmest month ever recorded, possibly beating out July 2016 for the title.

Climate change: July 'marginally' warmest month on record - BBC News

Looks like 2019 is going to be a warm one- just about every month has been close or at record levels, probably pushing this projection from s few months ago a bit higher.

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The earth has been warming for thousands of years, according to scientists who subscribe to the snowball earth theory. No cause for alarm if you subscribe to that scientific theory.
 
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