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Greta Thunberg And 7 Other Young Activists On How We Can Tackle The Climate Crisis

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[h=1]FT: Chinese Nationalists Turn on Climate Messiah Greta Thunberg[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest essay by Eric Worrall According to the Financial Times, the deteriorating relationship between the USA and China has triggered a collapse in renewable investment, a resurgence in coal, and has turned Greta Thunberg into a Chinese Nationalist hate figure. Climate change: how China moved from leader to laggard Beijing’s U-turn on renewables is triggering…
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interesting you picked during the Bush administration and Donald Trump administration so it's political which is what I thought in the first place.

Okay I'm going to explain something to you when I see you there is not an urgent need for action that is a negative claim. Like saying Bigfoot doesn't exist. If you want to prove ManBearPig is real you need to go get evidence. And it has to be evidence that that debunks what I already have. So far there is nothing.

Sure we can go back to the Stone age In destroy our way of life essentially. I don't know about you but I like driving a car to get to destinations better than walking. And you cannot produce a car that doesn't run on fossil fuels.

I know electric cars and because you're not buying gasoline you don't think they run on fossil fuels but they do. The demand for energy we have right now cannot be fulfilled by the power plants we operate. Solar power plants would have to take up pretty much all of the land you live on to produce a third or quarter of the power demand at current.

If you put the demands of charging a car battery onto the grid I don't leave what you have to upgrade the grid because it's operating at capacity you will have to build more power plants and the windmills and solar power plants aren't going to cut it you have to build coal-burning plants.

The system we have is probably the greenest at the moment. by all means stupid solar plants and windmills to supplement but that's what they are supplemental


I don't work in this industry and the idea that you can just throw 5 more gigawatts of demand on it and it won't be a problem is beyond ridiculous.

If we ever harness fusion maybe.

Republican politicians have turned climate change into a partisan issue by ignoring the warnings from the world's leading scientists.

Thirty-one top scientific societies speak with one voice on global climate change – The Ecological Society of America

That Trump for example want's to spend billions of dollars on propping up unprofitable coal plants.

Donald Trump hopes to save America’s failing coal-fired power plants - Daily chart

So it's telling that you can't provide a single scientific report from Bush's or Trump's presidency that disprove the urgent need for action.

Also you are seeing examples from all across the world that the transition away from fossil fuel is possible.

India cancels plans for huge coal power stations as solar energy prices hit record low | The Independent

America's coal consumption set to plunge to 42-year low - CNN

Google makes ‘biggest corporate purchase’ of renewable energy - The Verge

http://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/12/10/exxon-knows-renewables-cheaper-even-trump-doesnt/
 
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Millions of people all across the world took part in climate protest this week.

For years, Black Friday has been sold as a holiday day for the consumer. In the 2018, Black Friday resulted in $6.22 billion in online sales alone, per CNBC. This year, climate activists wants people to stop and reconsider such rampant consumption.

Climate protests are taking place around the world this Black Friday to raise awareness about the dangers of climate change. The protests are also timed to demand action during the U.N. climate negotiations, COP25, which will begin in Madrid, Spain on Dec. 2.

Climate activists say more than 80 strikes are happening in the U.S. alone. Protests have already happened in Asia and Europe. In Germany alone, activists say 630,000 turned out.

Thousands Around the World Climate Strike On Black Friday | Time

"Striking is not a choice we relish; we do it because we see no other options. We have watched a string of United Nations climate conferences unfold. Countless negotiations have produced much-hyped but ultimately empty commitments from the world’s governments – the same governments that allow fossil-fuel companies to drill for ever-more oil and gas, and burn away our futures for their profit.

Politicians and fossil-fuel companies have known about climate change for decades. And yet the politicians let the profiteers continue to exploit our planet’s resources and destroy its ecosystems in a quest for quick cash that threatens our very existence.

Don’t take our word for it: scientists are sounding the alarm. They warn that we have never been less likely to limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels – the threshold beyond which the most destructive effects of climate change would be triggered.

Worse, recent research shows that we are on track to produce 120% more fossil fuels in 2030 than would be consistent with the 1.5°C limit.The concentration of climate-heating greenhouse gases in our atmosphere has reached a record high, with no sign of a slowdown. Even if countries fulfill their current emissions-reduction pledges, we are headed for a 3.2°C increase."

Why We Strike Again by Greta Thunberg, Luisa Neubauer and Angela Valenzuela - Project Syndicate
 
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Republican politicians have turned climate change into a partisan issue by ignoring the warnings from the world's leading scientists.
No climate change alarmist have made it a partisan issue.

Every 5 years these idiots come up with another feed to freak out about another Doomsday prediction and they're always wrong just like every other religion.

I've heard this sky is falling Chicken Little crap for 30 years there is no credibility left.

You can only cry Wolf so many times before people ignore you.

And plus I hear different things from different scientists.



That Trump for example want's to spend billions of dollars on propping up unprofitable coal plants.
I'm a libertarian so I disagree with government spending money propping up any industry. That includes green energy. if you can't survive in the free-market you don't deserve to exist.


So it's telling that you can't provide a single scientific report from Bush's or Trump's presidency that disprove the urgent need for action.
okay it's not a positive claim for me to say I don't believe this need for urgent action you have to convince me. That's how arguments work I don't have to prove that this isn't happening you have to prove that it is.

That's kind of impossible for you. I've been hammered with this Chicken Little nonsense my entire life. I've survived 15 apocalypses. So I don't buy the "this time it's real" act. It was real last time and the time before and the time before that.

I don't believe the claim that half a degree increase in temperature is catastrophic you have nothing to show for evidence of that except for Chicken Little Hysteria.
Also you are seeing examples from all across the world that the transition away from fossil fuel is possible.
Sure it's possible it's just not necessary.

Thousand clones before you tried to sell me this exact same fear tactic with the Doom and gloom the end is near crap. I bought into it until the first projection came and went then the second then the third.

I don't believe you, you just bought into the Hysteria. It seems to be reaching a fever pitch at this point which is to me a good sign, hopefully it is the death moan of this particular belief system.

There is a literal cult and Europe freaking out about climate change. It's typically 20-somethings that do this because they haven't lived long enough to know that it's bull****.
 
Millions of people all across the world took part in climate protest this week.

For years, Black Friday has been sold as a holiday day for the consumer. In the 2018, Black Friday resulted in $6.22 billion in online sales alone, per CNBC. This year, climate activists wants people to stop and reconsider such rampant consumption.

Climate protests are taking place around the world this Black Friday to raise awareness about the dangers of climate change. The protests are also timed to demand action during the U.N. climate negotiations, COP25, which will begin in Madrid, Spain on Dec. 2.

Climate activists say more than 80 strikes are happening in the U.S. alone. Protests have already happened in Asia and Europe. In Germany alone, activists say 630,000 turned out.

Thousands Around the World Climate Strike On Black Friday | Time

"Striking is not a choice we relish; we do it because we see no other options. We have watched a string of United Nations climate conferences unfold. Countless negotiations have produced much-hyped but ultimately empty commitments from the world’s governments – the same governments that allow fossil-fuel companies to drill for ever-more oil and gas, and burn away our futures for their profit.

Politicians and fossil-fuel companies have known about climate change for decades. And yet the politicians let the profiteers continue to exploit our planet’s resources and destroy its ecosystems in a quest for quick cash that threatens our very existence.

Don’t take our word for it: scientists are sounding the alarm. They warn that we have never been less likely to limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels – the threshold beyond which the most destructive effects of climate change would be triggered.

Worse, recent research shows that we are on track to produce 120% more fossil fuels in 2030 than would be consistent with the 1.5°C limit.The concentration of climate-heating greenhouse gases in our atmosphere has reached a record high, with no sign of a slowdown. Even if countries fulfill their current emissions-reduction pledges, we are headed for a 3.2°C increase."

Why We Strike Again by Greta Thunberg, Luisa Neubauer and Angela Valenzuela - Project Syndicate

This isn't protest, it's fit throwing.

And it does more harm to the cause than good. Now everyone is inconvenienced and the protest message is lost. Because everyone is pissed off at these people were acting like children.

How many people do you think the lunatic on the corner with the sandwich board ringing a bell hollering that the end is near converts to Christianity? My guess is probably none he's not doing it to win converts he's doing it to show how pious he is.
 
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These bitchy fit throwing lunatics are killing the movement.

I think they're reaching this fevered pitch because it's dying. 30 years of my life I've been bombarded with this doomsday crap and I used to buy into it. First prediction was not only wrong it was completely and totally utterly wrong the next one the same thing then the next one, so these scrunch faced lunatics have become Alex Jones. I don't care how many studies do they make they've been wrong so much that they have no more credibility.

I'm glad the world is turning on this nonsense. It's about time. We stop with these conspiracy theories and move on.
 
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[h=1]Delingpole: Greta the Teenage Climate Puppet Goes Full Marxist[/h][FONT=&quot]From Breitbart James Delingpole 29 Nov 2019 Greta Thunberg the teenage Climate Puppet has gone full Marxist. In her latest public statement, she says that the ‘climate crisis is not just about the environment’: It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have…
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[h=1]Delingpole: Greta the Teenage Climate Puppet Goes Full Marxist[/h][FONT="]From Breitbart James Delingpole 29 Nov 2019 Greta Thunberg the teenage Climate Puppet has gone full Marxist. In her latest public statement, she says that the ‘climate crisis is not just about the environment’: It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have…
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She may be partially correct, but not in the way she thinks.
The green agenda's pushing of using food crops as fuel, has increased basic food prices
and forced millions of the worlds poor into a food challenged state, where they cannot afford to
pay for enough food to feed themselves, it is a humanitarian crises, caused by Green Human activity.
 
Millions of people all across the world took part in climate protest this week.

For years, Black Friday has been sold as a holiday day for the consumer. In the 2018, Black Friday resulted in $6.22 billion in online sales alone, per CNBC. This year, climate activists wants people to stop and reconsider such rampant consumption.

Climate protests are taking place around the world this Black Friday to raise awareness about the dangers of climate change. The protests are also timed to demand action during the U.N. climate negotiations, COP25, which will begin in Madrid, Spain on Dec. 2.

Climate activists say more than 80 strikes are happening in the U.S. alone. Protests have already happened in Asia and Europe. In Germany alone, activists say 630,000 turned out.

Thousands Around the World Climate Strike On Black Friday | Time

"Striking is not a choice we relish; we do it because we see no other options. We have watched a string of United Nations climate conferences unfold. Countless negotiations have produced much-hyped but ultimately empty commitments from the world’s governments – the same governments that allow fossil-fuel companies to drill for ever-more oil and gas, and burn away our futures for their profit.

Politicians and fossil-fuel companies have known about climate change for decades. And yet the politicians let the profiteers continue to exploit our planet’s resources and destroy its ecosystems in a quest for quick cash that threatens our very existence.

Don’t take our word for it: scientists are sounding the alarm. They warn that we have never been less likely to limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels – the threshold beyond which the most destructive effects of climate change would be triggered.

Worse, recent research shows that we are on track to produce 120% more fossil fuels in 2030 than would be consistent with the 1.5°C limit.The concentration of climate-heating greenhouse gases in our atmosphere has reached a record high, with no sign of a slowdown. Even if countries fulfill their current emissions-reduction pledges, we are headed for a 3.2°C increase."

Why We Strike Again by Greta Thunberg, Luisa Neubauer and Angela Valenzuela - Project Syndicate


She's just great
 
[h=2]Leading Meteorologist Slams Climate Alarmists As “Desperate and Scientifically Wrong”…PIK “Doomsday Prophets”[/h]By P Gosselin on 3. December 2019
High-profile Swiss meteorologist Jörg Kachelmann has penned a stinging commentary in the online Bayerischer Kurier concerning all the climate doomsday hysteria sweeping across Europe, and warns history tells us such hysteria has never turned out well.

Swiss meteorologist Jörg Kachelmann. Photo: Weather.Us
PIK’s “silly” science, doomsday prophets
The veteran meteorologist, who is convinced the planet is indeed warming due to man’s activities, worries that environmental groups have been getting away with falsehoods and how the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) is promoting “silly” science and “view themselves as the prophets of the imminent end of the world.”
One problem with all the über-alarmism, Kachelmann sees, is a tendency of people simply resigning because they’ve come to believe that nothing can be done to stop the coming doomsday, and so why bother trying.
He also sharply criticizes green activists who blame every extreme weather event on man-made climate change, writing that it is “desperate and scientifically completely wrong”.

Future scenarios as the present – bigger media bang!
One reason the activists have become so shrill, Kachelmann believes, is due in large part to the media’s willingness to run with every sensational story without an inkling of background checking.
“Since votes are to be won now, scientifically quite justifiable predictions for the future are quickly changed into the present, because there’s a bigger bang. The charlatans are certain that this mischief will spread through the media at a time when most German states have largely abolished science education.”
“Whoring for clicks”…”bull**** sells”
“The collective disinformation unscientists meet up with a sad media situation, where the successful whoring for clicks is more important than even the smallest quantities of respectability. Stupid clicks well, says Kachelmann. “But that doesn’t matter to “Focus”, “Merkur” or the “Süddeutsche” [publications]. It still gets written because bull**** sells.”
Woodstoves, not cars, are worst polluters
Another hot issue in Germany is fine particle pollution. Here Kachelmann also sees policymakers stampeding down the wrong solution path, and are falsely putting most of the blame on automobiles: “The exceedance of fine particles and other pollutants is almost exclusively due not to traffic, but to wood-burning stoves, which have recently multiplied in densely populated areas, because insane people claim that they are “ecological.”
Over the recent years the German government has been turning a blind eye to dirty wood-burning stoves – even supporting their use. Now towns and villages across Germany are filled with choking smoke from the supposedly climate-friendly burning of wood.
 
Greta Thunber have arrived in time to the U.N. climate conference.

Greta Thunberg Arrives By Sail in Europe for Climate Talks | Time

There you have positive news from around the world for example that coal power are starting to get uninsurable and that climate change to steer all New Zealand government decisions from now on.

Coal power becoming 'uninsurable' as firms refuse cover | Environment | The Guardian

Climate change to steer all New Zealand government decisions from now on | World news | The Guardian
 
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[h=1]The antidote to @GretaThunberg – Naomi Seibt – former climate alarmist turned climate skeptic[/h][FONT="]I met this amazing young lady in Madrid last week. At 19 years old; she impressed me with her quiet but powerful understanding of how she had been misled on climate alarmism. Recorded in Madrid, Spain, the site of the UN’s COP25. Naomi Seibt, a popular YouTube streamer, speaks on her journey to climate realism,…
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What is anti-humanity ideology? That lady claimed that's the goal of those scientists. Another claim she made is that she was told to look down on achievements with guilt.
Nobody is saying to get rid of fossil fuel.

She seems bright though.
 
Greta Thunberg is Time's person of the year. That she have inspired millions to take action on climate change,

"By September 2019, the climate strikes had spread beyond northern Europe. In New York City, 250,000 reportedly marched in Battery Park and outside City Hall. In London, 100,000 swarmed the streets near Westminster Abbey, in the shadow of Big Ben. In Germany, a total of 1.4 million people took to the streets, with thousands flooding the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and marching in nearly 600 other cities and towns across the country. From Antarctica to Papua New Guinea, from Kabul to Johannesburg, an estimated 4 million people of all ages showed up to protest. Their signs told a story. In London: The World is Hotter than Young Leonardo DiCaprio. In Turkey: Every Disaster Movie Starts with a Scientist Being Ignored. In New York: The Dinosaurs Thought They Had Time, Too. Hundreds carried images of Thunberg or painted her quotes onto poster boards. Make the World Greta Again became a rallying cry.

Her moral clarity inspired other young people around the world. “I want to be like her,” says Rita Amorim, a 16-year-old student from Lisbon who waited for four hours in December to catch a glimpse of Thunberg."


Greta Thunberg: TIME'''s Person of the Year 2019 | Time
 
Greta Thunberg is Time's person of the year. That she have inspired millions to take action on climate change,

"By September 2019, the climate strikes had spread beyond northern Europe. In New York City, 250,000 reportedly marched in Battery Park and outside City Hall. In London, 100,000 swarmed the streets near Westminster Abbey, in the shadow of Big Ben. In Germany, a total of 1.4 million people took to the streets, with thousands flooding the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and marching in nearly 600 other cities and towns across the country. From Antarctica to Papua New Guinea, from Kabul to Johannesburg, an estimated 4 million people of all ages showed up to protest. Their signs told a story. In London: The World is Hotter than Young Leonardo DiCaprio. In Turkey: Every Disaster Movie Starts with a Scientist Being Ignored. In New York: The Dinosaurs Thought They Had Time, Too. Hundreds carried images of Thunberg or painted her quotes onto poster boards. Make the World Greta Again became a rallying cry.

Her moral clarity inspired other young people around the world. “I want to be like her,” says Rita Amorim, a 16-year-old student from Lisbon who waited for four hours in December to catch a glimpse of Thunberg."


Greta Thunberg: TIME'''s Person of the Year 2019 | Time

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It is sad with all the massive attacks against Greta Thunberg there even the president of United States attack her. There his campaign even make a photoshop version of the Time's cover there Trump replace Greta. But Greta use humor and referring to science to deal with the massive attacks.

Greta Thunberg changes Twitter bio after Trump dig - BBC News

Trump Campaign Is Using a Photoshopped Time Cover of President's Head On Greta Thunberg to Solicit Text Signups

Greta Thunberg: why the right’s usual attacks don’t work on her - Vox

While the attacks also show how influential Greta Thunberg and the global climate movement are becoming.

"It began with a story line familiar to every parent of every generation in every corner of the globe: an indignant teenager and a sudden burst of rebellion. It became one of the most unlikely and surely one of the swiftest ascents to global influence in history. Over the course of little more than a year, a 16-year-old from Stockholm went from a solitary protest on the cobblestones outside her country’s Parliament to leading a worldwide youth movement; from a schoolkid conjugating verbs in French class to meeting with the Secretary-General of the United Nations and receiving audiences with Presidents and the Pope; from a solo demonstrator with a hand-painted slogan (Skolstrejk för Klimatet) to inspiring millions of people across more than 150 countries to take to the streets on behalf of the planet we share."

TIME Person of the Year 2019: How We Chose Greta Thunberg | Time
 
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