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Networks of 7,000 universities declare climate emergency

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PoS said:
Electric ships and aircraft? I'll believe it when it happens.
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World’s first hybrid-electric cruise ship steams into Vancouver harbour | Globalnews.ca
NASA Takes Delivery of X-57 Maxwell – First All-Electric Experimental Aircraft
Solar Impulse - Wikipedia

The cruise ship that docked in Vancouver last summer is just a hybrid at this point but the Solar Impulse 2 aircraft can stat aloft for 36 hours and completed a circumnavigation of the earth in 2016. Took 'way longer than expected because the batteries suffered thermal damage and the repairs took months but they completed it, 26,000 miles on solar power.
Day's coming, fast. Like I say, maybe not in my lifetime but the way we move around will be much different by the time my son is my age. Hell, the sun's energy is just to huge and too easily available not to use.
My grandfather broke his leg crashing a motorcycle into the back end of a horse-drawn milk wagon. My grandson might be cursing a gas-powered car that's in his way.
 
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Grand Mal said:
World’s first hybrid-electric cruise ship steams into Vancouver harbour | Globalnews.ca
NASA Takes Delivery of X-57 Maxwell – First All-Electric Experimental Aircraft
Solar Impulse - Wikipedia

The cruise ship that docked in Vancouver last summer is just a hybrid at this point but the Solar Impulse 2 aircraft can stat aloft for 36 hours and completed a circumnavigation of the earth in 2016. Took 'way longer than expected because the batteries suffered thermal damage and the repairs took months but they completed it, 26,000 miles on solar power.
Day's coming, fast. Like I say, maybe not in my lifetime but the way we move around will be much different by the time my son is my age. Hell, the sun's energy is just to huge and too easily available not to use.
My grandfather broke his leg crashing a motorcycle into the back end of a horse-drawn milk wagon. My grandson might be cursing a gas-powered car that's in his way.
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Hybrid ships have been around for decades, I did some work on one in 1983, and the technology was not new then.
Ships do not have the same weight considerations as planes.
Diesel–electric transmission - Wikipedia
The first diesel motorship was also the first diesel–electric ship, the Russian tanker Vandal from Branobel, which was launched in 1903.
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Like the torque advantages on trains, diesel-electirc ships offer some advantages, like vector thrust.
 
Re: Amazing, universities declare climate emergency, HALF! that I knew later were after EPA / Enviro

Advances in hydrogen energy technologies should make new technologies more feasible.
 
Re: Amazing, universities declare climate emergency, HALF! that I knew later were after EPA / Enviro

Grand Mal said:
World’s first hybrid-electric cruise ship steams into Vancouver harbour | Globalnews.ca
NASA Takes Delivery of X-57 Maxwell – First All-Electric Experimental Aircraft
Solar Impulse - Wikipedia

The cruise ship that docked in Vancouver last summer is just a hybrid at this point but the Solar Impulse 2 aircraft can stat aloft for 36 hours and completed a circumnavigation of the earth in 2016. Took 'way longer than expected because the batteries suffered thermal damage and the repairs took months but they completed it, 26,000 miles on solar power.
Day's coming, fast. Like I say, maybe not in my lifetime but the way we move around will be much different by the time my son is my age. Hell, the sun's energy is just to huge and too easily available not to use.
My grandfather broke his leg crashing a motorcycle into the back end of a horse-drawn milk wagon. My grandson might be cursing a gas-powered car that's in his way.
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Pure pie in the sky stuff. Wake me up when they come into widespread use.
 
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PoS said:
Pure pie in the sky stuff. Wake me up when they come into widespread use.
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Cars were pie in the sky when you had to buy cans of fuel at the hardware store too. Maybe we just ought to let you sleep.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Cars were pie in the sky when you had to buy cans of fuel at the hardware store too. Maybe we just ought to let you sleep.
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LOL youre living in a fantasy world- I used to be like that too when I was a kid, then I grew up.
 
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longview said:
Hybrid ships have been around for decades, I did some work on one in 1983, and the technology was not new then.
Ships do not have the same weight considerations as planes.
Diesel–electric transmission - Wikipedia

Like the torque advantages on trains, diesel-electirc ships offer some advantages, like vector thrust.
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I know about diesel-electric. When I first got out of high school my first jobs were in mines including driving diesel-electric ore trucks. Hybrid is different. Hybrid means it runs part of the time on electric power drawn from batteries
 
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Grand Mal said:
I know about diesel-electric. When I first got out of high school my first jobs were in mines including driving diesel-electric ore trucks. Hybrid is different. Hybrid means it runs part of the time on electric power drawn from batteries
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That is not the only definition, plenty of hybrid cars will not do much of anything without the heat engine running.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Cars were pie in the sky when you had to buy cans of fuel at the hardware store too. Maybe we just ought to let you sleep.
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These people are content with their dinosaur coexistence.
 
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Grand Mal said:
World’s first hybrid-electric cruise ship steams into Vancouver harbour | Globalnews.ca
NASA Takes Delivery of X-57 Maxwell – First All-Electric Experimental Aircraft
Solar Impulse - Wikipedia

The cruise ship that docked in Vancouver last summer is just a hybrid at this point but the Solar Impulse 2 aircraft can stat aloft for 36 hours and completed a circumnavigation of the earth in 2016. Took 'way longer than expected because the batteries suffered thermal damage and the repairs took months but they completed it, 26,000 miles on solar power.
Day's coming, fast. Like I say, maybe not in my lifetime but the way we move around will be much different by the time my son is my age. Hell, the sun's energy is just to huge and too easily available not to use.
My grandfather broke his leg crashing a motorcycle into the back end of a horse-drawn milk wagon. My grandson might be cursing a gas-powered car that's in his way.
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You are also for example seeing impressive advancement of high speed trains in China.

"Work on building a 1,000km-long, super-fast magnetic levitation (maglev) railway in China between Guangzhou and Wuhan is expected to start next year, according to local media.
Trains would travel at between 600km/h and a theoretical maximum of 1,000 km/h, cutting the travel time between the two cities from about 10 hours to two.

The maglev system keeps rolling stock hovering above rails, allowing high speeds by removing friction."

Work on China’s 1,000km maglev railway “to begin next year” - News - GCR
 
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Bergslagstroll said:
You are also for example seeing impressive advancement of high speed trains in China.

"Work on building a 1,000km-long, super-fast magnetic levitation (maglev) railway in China between Guangzhou and Wuhan is expected to start next year, according to local media.
Trains would travel at between 600km/h and a theoretical maximum of 1,000 km/h, cutting the travel time between the two cities from about 10 hours to two.

The maglev system keeps rolling stock hovering above rails, allowing high speeds by removing friction."

Work on China’s 1,000km maglev railway “to begin next year” - News - GCR
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I forgot about that. I read a couple months ago, too, that Chile had bought dozens of electric buses from China.
Momentum's building...
 
Re: Amazing, universities declare climate emergency, HALF! that I knew later were after EPA / Enviro

Here is something from B1M.
 
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danielpalos said:
Here is something from B1M.
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That is cool! I thought it was interesting that the I-45 Texas corridor is one of the most accident-prone, dangerous highways in the US. And the proposed Japanese bullet train has had over 10 billion passengers without 1 death!!!
 
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Media_Truth said:
That is cool! I thought it was interesting that the I-45 Texas corridor is one of the most accident-prone, dangerous highways in the US. And the proposed Japanese bullet train has had over 10 billion passengers without 1 death!!!
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Yes, it seems promising; if we can get moving on it.

Why are we lagging in high speed rail when compared to China?
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Network with more than 7 000 universities and colleges from six continents have declared a climate emergency and also commited to adress the climate crisis.

Networks of 7,000 universities declare climate emergency

740 jurisdictions and local governments with 136 million citizens have also declared a climate emergency.

Climate emergency declarations in 740 jurisdictions and local governments cover 136 million citizens - Climate Emergency Declaration
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Let's hope they shut down to reduce the carbon footprint.
 
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danielpalos said:
Yes, it seems promising; if we can get moving on it.

Why are we lagging in high speed rail when compared to China?
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It all started in 1920. Start with a concerted effort to end streetcars and rail travel. Start funding roads, bridges, interstates, etc with taxpayer money. Even if you preferred streetcars and rail, you payed, because much came out of the General Fund. Continue to subsidize that infrastructure, while defunding Amtrak and other rail initiatives, insisting that they should be self-sustainable. Fast forward to 2019. High speed rail cannot be funded because all this other infrastructure is in the way.

It was a conspiracy that changed the face of urban landscapes across North America. In 1922, Alfred P. Sloan, head of General Motors, created a working group charged with undermining and replacing the electric trolley. The group’s first act was to launch a bus line that arrived a minute before the streetcar and followed the same route. The trolley line soon shutdown. At the time, there were hundreds of trolley lines in Los Angeles so it was not particularly noteworthy when one shut down. But it was a harbinger of things to come.

Much more history at this link --->

Automakers and Their Dark, Deadly Conspiracies - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
 
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Media_Truth said:
That is cool! I thought it was interesting that the I-45 Texas corridor is one of the most accident-prone, dangerous highways in the US. And the proposed Japanese bullet train has had over 10 billion passengers without 1 death!!!
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FYI ,t he planned high speed rail, between Houston and Dallas will not follow the I45 corridor, but go through rural land.
Could Texas high-speed rail hit a speed bump this session? | The Texas Tribune
The Project - Texas Central
The real limitation is land rights.
 
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Media_Truth said:
421,000 to 300. The deniers will say that America is "Great" again.
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BS. You've clearly never been to China's major cities or else you might have noticed this

Beijing

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Shanghai

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Guangzhou

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I've been to two of these cities and know this to be so , so this 'clean' China BS you are peddling doesn't fly with me. You guys simply want to beat up on the west whilst giving the communists a free pass which says it all frankly :roll:
 
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Media_Truth said:
It all started in 1920. Start with a concerted effort to end streetcars and rail travel. Start funding roads, bridges, interstates, etc with taxpayer money. Even if you preferred streetcars and rail, you payed, because much came out of the General Fund. Continue to subsidize that infrastructure, while defunding Amtrak and other rail initiatives, insisting that they should be self-sustainable. Fast forward to 2019. High speed rail cannot be funded because all this other infrastructure is in the way.

It was a conspiracy that changed the face of urban landscapes across North America. In 1922, Alfred P. Sloan, head of General Motors, created a working group charged with undermining and replacing the electric trolley. The group’s first act was to launch a bus line that arrived a minute before the streetcar and followed the same route. The trolley line soon shutdown. At the time, there were hundreds of trolley lines in Los Angeles so it was not particularly noteworthy when one shut down. But it was a harbinger of things to come.

Much more history at this link --->

Automakers and Their Dark, Deadly Conspiracies - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
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I can be great benefits in reducing car dependency.

The Negative Consequences of Car Dependency — Strong Towns
 
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flogger said:
BS. You've clearly never been to China's major cities or else you might have noticed this

Beijing

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Shanghai

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Guangzhou

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I've been to two of these cities and know this to be so , so this 'clean' China BS you are peddling doesn't fly with me. You guys simply want to beat up on the west whilst giving the communists a free pass which says it all frankly :roll:
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Pollution from fossil fuel are an enormous problem in developing countries. So reducing that toxic pollution is also a great motivations to reduce the dependency of fossil fuels.

More than 90% of the world’s children breathe toxic air every day

So you have positive examples from all across the world of developing countries investing in renewables.

The Developing World Is Taking Over Renewable Energy -
Sustainable Brands
 
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Bergslagstroll said:
Pollution from fossil fuel are an enormous problem in developing countries. So reducing that toxic pollution is also a great motivations to reduce the dependency of fossil fuels.

More than 90% of the world’s children breathe toxic air every day

So you have positive examples from all across the world of developing countries investing in renewables.

The Developing World Is Taking Over Renewable Energy -
Sustainable Brands
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Green energy isnt the answer though, they lack the efficiency or low cost of fossil fuels.
 
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