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Ho-Hum ---> Now Europe has a Record Shattering Heatwave

flogger said:
Why in your world can temperature records never be broken only 'SHATTERED'

I guess broken is not a scary enough word :cool:
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I didn't write the narrative. Get used to it. We are only in the early stages of the effects of Climate Change.
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=2]Declining Heat In France[/h][FONT="]Posted on [URL="https://realclimatescience.com/2019/07/declining-heat-in-france/"]July 16, 2019[/URL] by tonyheller[/FONT]
The graph below plots the average daily maximum temperature at all French GHCN stations in the northern hemisphere, for every summer day since 1895. The hottest day was July 28, 1947, which averaged 98F (37C.)
This year’s heatwave (so far) was nowhere near as hot as 2003, other than at a few stations along a narrow ten mile stretch in the south of France. We will have to see how the rest of the summer turns out.
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Who Is Tony Heller? | Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), Exposed

First, you should know that I’m pretty much a nobody in the climate debate. I’m laughed at by all climatologists. I’m not even taken seriously by true climate skeptics. I don’t have a degree in climatology. I haven’t written a single academic paper about climate change and I don’t have a job related to climatology or the weather. What I do have is a blog and a Twitter account. And as it turns out, that’s pretty much all you need to be a somebody in the climate debate.
 
Media_Truth said:
Who Is Tony Heller? | Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), Exposed

First, you should know that I’m pretty much a nobody in the climate debate. I’m laughed at by all climatologists. I’m not even taken seriously by true climate skeptics. I don’t have a degree in climatology. I haven’t written a single academic paper about climate change and I don’t have a job related to climatology or the weather. What I do have is a blog and a Twitter account. And as it turns out, that’s pretty much all you need to be a somebody in the climate debate.
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LOL.

That site is hilarious!
 
Media_Truth said:
Who Is Tony Heller? | Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), Exposed

First, you should know that I’m pretty much a nobody in the climate debate. I’m laughed at by all climatologists. I’m not even taken seriously by true climate skeptics. I don’t have a degree in climatology. I haven’t written a single academic paper about climate change and I don’t have a job related to climatology or the weather. What I do have is a blog and a Twitter account. And as it turns out, that’s pretty much all you need to be a somebody in the climate debate.
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Dodging the data, again.
 
Jack Hays said:
Dodging the data, again.
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And then there is this...

Who Is Tony Heller? | Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), Exposed

My first notable attempt at refuting climate scientists was in an article appearing on “The Register” website which was reprinted as my first guest blog post on Anthony Watts’ infamous “Watt’s Up with That?” climate denial website using my pseudonym “Steven Goddard.” Though I’m not qualified in any way to perform climate analysis, like many successful climate deniers, I have enough of a background in science and math to appear knowledgeable to the average Joe, but anybody with a serious background in climatology quickly realizes how clueless I am. But I’ve learned you don’t need to be right or truthful to attract an audience. Today’s political climate is rife with rabidly anti-government, free market types that are easy to manipulate and connect with.
 
Media_Truth said:
And then there is this...

Who Is Tony Heller? | Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), Exposed

My first notable attempt at refuting climate scientists was in an article appearing on “The Register” website which was reprinted as my first guest blog post on Anthony Watts’ infamous “Watt’s Up with That?” climate denial website using my pseudonym “Steven Goddard.” Though I’m not qualified in any way to perform climate analysis, like many successful climate deniers, I have enough of a background in science and math to appear knowledgeable to the average Joe, but anybody with a serious background in climatology quickly realizes how clueless I am. But I’ve learned you don’t need to be right or truthful to attract an audience. Today’s political climate is rife with rabidly anti-government, free market types that are easy to manipulate and connect with.
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Fake site.:lamo
 
[h=2]It’s Not Your Imagination – The New York Times Is Getting More Dishonest[/h][FONT=&quot]Posted on July 17, 2019 by tonyheller[/FONT]
It’s Not Your Imagination. Summers Are Getting Hotter. Extraordinarily hot summers — the kind that were virtually unheard-of in the 1950s — have become commonplace.
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The New York Times claims are the exact opposite of reality. The hottest summer in the Northeast was 1949, and the second hottest was 1955. There is no indication that summers in the Northeast are getting hotter.

The frequency of hot days in the Northeast has generally been low since the 1950s, with the notable exception of 1988, 1999 and 2002. Recent summers have been among the coolest on record. . . .


 
Jack Hays said:
Fake site.:lamo
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If it's fake, why doesn't Tony Heller sue them? Because everything is true? :wink2:

For sure, this excerpt from the site must be true.

In 2010, after a two-year stint guest blogging at WUWT, Anthony Watts figured out what an embarrassment I was to his site and fired me from my volunteer position as a guest blogger. So, I did what any denier hungry for a piece of the oil money action would do and launched my own climate denial blog, “Real Climate,” which I supplemented with my Twitter feed a year later. Continuing to post anonymously under my pseudonym “Steven Goddard,” I hammered out piles of pure bull**** making all kinds of baseless accusations against scientists and government officials. It wasn’t until June 23, 2014 that I finally started getting some traction with a post accusing NOAA and NASA of purposefully fudging US temperature data. Of course, it was all bull**** and easily refuted but that didn’t matter. It was choice red meat propaganda and so it got picked up by the corporate shills at Fox News and spread far and wide throughout the right wing echo chamber. I had finally hit the big time and now the world had heard about Steven ****ING Goddard.
 
Media_Truth said:
If it's fake, why doesn't Tony Heller sue them? Because everything is true? :wink2:

For sure, this excerpt from the site must be true.

In 2010, after a two-year stint guest blogging at WUWT, Anthony Watts figured out what an embarrassment I was to his site and fired me from my volunteer position as a guest blogger. So, I did what any denier hungry for a piece of the oil money action would do and launched my own climate denial blog, “Real Climate,” which I supplemented with my Twitter feed a year later. Continuing to post anonymously under my pseudonym “Steven Goddard,” I hammered out piles of pure bull**** making all kinds of baseless accusations against scientists and government officials. It wasn’t until June 23, 2014 that I finally started getting some traction with a post accusing NOAA and NASA of purposefully fudging US temperature data. Of course, it was all bull**** and easily refuted but that didn’t matter. It was choice red meat propaganda and so it got picked up by the corporate shills at Fox News and spread far and wide throughout the right wing echo chamber. I had finally hit the big time and now the world had heard about Steven ****ING Goddard.
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Not worth it. Posted only for suckers.
 
Jack Hays said:
Yet those readings from London and Paris pale in comparison to what happened in southern France. In the Loire region, the temperature in fact skyrocketed to a Death Valley-like 50°C (122°F), some 4°C over the just reported all-time 45.9°C record:

This news was also reported at the time
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How ignorant are you. In 1930 ALL thermometers were mercury (a liquid metal) filled glass tubes and likely held in a metal display frame.

Lets look at the article.

It states two temperatures, 122 degrees and 100 degrees. (A 22 degree split)

To get an accurate reading you use a thermometer which is in the shade and unaffected by radiant heat to get an actual air temperature.

* You may have noticed that metal, concrete and other materials can absorb more heat in direct sunlight than when they are shielded from the sun.
* The outside temperature of 100 degrees in the shade may be uncomfortable but not hot enough to burn the skin, while a piece of metal in direct sunlight can cause welts, burns and blisters.

If you measure using a thermometer in direct sunlight you have a temperature that is not accurate and is being influenced by the absorption of heat rather than an actual air temperature.

If its a day with an air temperature of 85 degrees and you try walking across asphalt barefoot your feet will likely find the heat a little more than discomforting.

You may know the line "You can fry an egg on the sidewalk"
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
So kids get summer days off? Cool.

101 degrees is cause for panic? You’ve got to be kidding me.
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Yes 101 degrees is cause for panic.

101 degrees with 75% humidity makes the bodies cooling mechanism fail and that can result in illness and/or death.

Large numbers of the homes in France and throughout Europe do not have A/C cooling because of the limited need and age of the homes.

I live in Phoenix, it was 118 on Tuesday but with only 8% humidity.

I grew up in Chicago were you have multiple summer days that hit the upper 90's with 90+% humidity and not a cloud in the sky.

Heat & humidity can and does kill.

The last heat wave to hit Europe Killed an estimated 33,000.
 
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Dick Tornado said:
The last heat wave to hit Europe Killed an estimated 33,000.
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One has to be honest and say so what ? In the UK alone we average 32,000 deaths from winter cold each year, which would probably be multiplied by a factor of at least 10 if the rest of Europe were taken into account.

Its not extreme heat thats the major problem here only extreme climate change hysteria. Cold kills far greater numbers :(

https://www.e3g.org/news/media-room/uk-has-sixth-highest-rate-of-excess-winter-deaths-in-europe
 
Media_Truth said:
Even more concerning is that Europe's five hottest summers since 1500 have all been in the 21st century, according to a climatology institute in Potsdam, Germany, the BBC said.
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Considering the Medieval Warming Period ended ~1250 and the Little Ice-Age began thereafter, I'm not the least bit surprised that temperature records are being broken during the 20th and 21st centuries. Particularly when you take into consideration that the Modern Warming Period didn't begin until ~1850. Not to worry, we still have another ~250 years before the Modern Warming Period ends, so there is plenty of time to establish even more record temperatures.
 
Dick Tornado said:
Yes 101 degrees is cause for panic.

101 degrees with 75% humidity makes the bodies cooling mechanism fail and that can result in illness and/or death.

Large numbers of the homes in France and throughout Europe do not have A/C cooling because of the limited need and age of the homes.

I live in Phoenix, it was 118 on Tuesday but with only 8% humidity.

I grew up in Chicago were you have multiple summer days that hit the upper 90's with 90+% humidity and not a cloud in the sky.

Heat & humidity can and does kill.

The last heat wave to hit Europe Killed an estimated 33,000.
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I live in a very Humid place (Houston) and the Humidity drops as the temperatures increase,
I thought it would be worthwhile to look at the recent record in France.
Nimes-Ales-Camargue-Cevennes Airport, FR
Saint-Gilles, France History | Weather Underground
4:00 PM 111 F 46 F 12 %
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Hum, the hottest hour at 111 F (Very Hot) had a relative humidity of 12%, and a dew point of 46 F.
When it was near 101 F the RH was 18%
7:30 PM 102 F 52 F 18 %
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So we are not talking about 101 F at 75% humidity!
Many humid places start the day at 100% RH, but that amount of water occupies a smaller percentage of the warmer air,
this means that as it gets hot, the humidity drops.
You are correct that a combination of high temperature and high humidity can kill,
but thankfully those two in combination are fairly rare.
 
Glitch said:
Considering the Medieval Warming Period ended ~1250 and the Little Ice-Age began thereafter, I'm not the least bit surprised that temperature records are being broken during the 20th and 21st centuries. Particularly when you take into consideration that the Modern Warming Period didn't begin until ~1850. Not to worry, we still have another ~250 years before the Modern Warming Period ends, so there is plenty of time to establish even more record temperatures.
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From man-made CO2...
 
Media_Truth said:
From man-made CO2...
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Yeah, all those knights and their gas guzzling horses... let's not forget all the farting priests and lascivious monks too...
 
longview said:
I live in a very Humid place (Houston) and the Humidity drops as the temperatures increase,
I thought it would be worthwhile to look at the recent record in France.
Nimes-Ales-Camargue-Cevennes Airport, FR
Saint-Gilles, France History | Weather Underground

Hum, the hottest hour at 111 F (Very Hot) had a relative humidity of 12%, and a dew point of 46 F.
When it was near 101 F the RH was 18%

So we are not talking about 101 F at 75% humidity!
Many humid places start the day at 100% RH, but that amount of water occupies a smaller percentage of the warmer air,
this means that as it gets hot, the humidity drops.
You are correct that a combination of high temperature and high humidity can kill,
but thankfully those two in combination are fairly rare.
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Most people forget just how far north Europe is, compared to say the US. Paris, France (48° 51' 52.9776'' N), for example, is actually more northerly than Seattle, Washington (47° 36' 28.8468'' N). For the last ~11,700 years Europe has been the recipient of the Atlantic Conveyor. Keeping Europe, England, and the Nordic nations much warmer for their latitude than they should be. There are portions of the coastline of Norway above the Arctic Circle that remain ice-free all Winter, and that is a direct result of Atlantic Conveyor bringing the warm water from the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the North Sea. As a result Europe normally has very mild Winters and Summers. The further you get from the coast, however, the more extreme the temperature changes will be.

With regard to high temperatures and high humidity being rare, you clearly have never spent a Summer in the mid-west. When I was living in St. Paul, MN, it would regularly reach 90°F during the Summer and have 90% humidity. It was miserable. High heat and high humidity are not rare, they are just dependent upon the geography. In the mid-West, several hundred miles from any coast, and you will regularly experience high temperatures and high humidity. In deserts, or within a couple hundred miles of the coast, you will have even higher temperatures but with very low humidity.

Even the 90°F record temperature Anchorage experienced a couple weeks ago had virtually no humidity to speak of. However, Fairbanks with their 92°F temperature was experiencing 93% humidity this past week because they are more than 400 miles from the coast. The weather (both Summer and Winter) is always going to be much more extreme in Fairbanks than in Anchorage.
 
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