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Ho-Hum ---> Now Europe has a Record Shattering Heatwave

cabse5 said:
And the left believes it is caused, solely, by man and wishes to use this approach to monitor and control climate change.:lamo
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Actually the left wishes to use the perception that we can control climate change, to control what freedoms
people will be allowed to have!
 
longview said:
Actually the left wishes to use the perception that we can control climate change, to control what freedoms
people will be allowed to have!
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Unintended circumstance of AGW-monitored climate change? But, I agree.
 
cabse5 said:
Unintended circumstance of AGW-monitored climate change? But, I agree.
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I do not think it was unintended, but the original destination, AGW is simply the selected mode of transport!
 
cabse5 said:
Clarify, please?
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I think the political left (much like the political right) would like to dictate to people
exactly how they should live, where they can live, what entertainment they can enjoy, ect.
The path to their socialist utopia could not be constructed with logic, so they found a way to build it with fear!
Fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want.
 
longview said:
I think the political left (much like the political right) would like to dictate to people
exactly how they should live, where they can live, what entertainment they can enjoy, ect.
The path to their socialist utopia could not be constructed with logic, so they found a way to build it with fear!
Fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want.
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Side bar: Using your last line, does Iran want a war with the US?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
So kids get summer days off? Cool.

101 degrees is cause for panic? You’ve got to be kidding me.
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The 2003 heat wave killed over 70,000 people in Europe -- 14,000 people in France alone. So yes, heat waves need to be taken seriously.

It's also a tad hotter than 101F. Most of Europe is 104F or hotter; a small village in the south of France broke France's all-time record high when it hit 114F.
 
cabse5 said:
Side bar: Using your last line, does Iran want a war with the US?
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There are elements in Iran who wish for this, some type of religious prophecy, but I do not think those in power want to loose it.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
So kids get summer days off? Cool.

101 degrees is cause for panic? You’ve got to be kidding me.
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Kuwait and Saudi Arabia record highest temperature on earth

The heatwave is expected to continue well into the summer season.

Dubai: A man died in Kuwait yesterday as the country reels from a heatwave. The man, who died because of a heatstroke, was found with his tools next to his body.

According to Al Rai daily, the police and ambulance raced when reports came in of the ill man, but he was dead by the time they reached him. The forensic reports pointed to overexposure to the sun. Kuwait on Saturday recorded the highest temperatures in the world; reaching 52.2 degrees Celsius (126 Fahrenheit) in the shadows and 63 degrees Celsius (137 Fahrenheit) under direct sunlight, according to Al Qabas newspaper. In Saudi Arabia, the mercury rose to 55 degrees Celsius in Al Majmaah at noon.

I think 130 degrees in the sun and people dying is reason to panic.
 
HumblePi said:

Kuwait and Saudi Arabia record highest temperature on earth

The heatwave is expected to continue well into the summer season.

Dubai: A man died in Kuwait yesterday as the country reels from a heatwave. The man, who died because of a heatstroke, was found with his tools next to his body.

According to Al Rai daily, the police and ambulance raced when reports came in of the ill man, but he was dead by the time they reached him. The forensic reports pointed to overexposure to the sun. Kuwait on Saturday recorded the highest temperatures in the world; reaching 52.2 degrees Celsius (126 Fahrenheit) in the shadows and 63 degrees Celsius (137 Fahrenheit) under direct sunlight, according to Al Qabas newspaper. In Saudi Arabia, the mercury rose to 55 degrees Celsius in Al Majmaah at noon.

I think 130 degrees in the sun and people dying is reason to panic.
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People die of heatstroke every year, this is not a new phenomenon
 
longview said:
I think the political left (much like the political right) would like to dictate to people
exactly how they should live, where they can live, what entertainment they can enjoy, ect.
The path to their socialist utopia could not be constructed with logic, so they found a way to build it with fear!
Fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want.
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Belongs in the CT Forum...
 
longview said:
I think the political left (much like the political right) would like to dictate to people
exactly how they should live, where they can live, what entertainment they can enjoy, ect.
The path to their socialist utopia could not be constructed with logic, so they found a way to build it with fear!
Fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want.
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Why do you worry so much about imaginary “oppression” in the west and seem to care so little about real oppression. For example that the oil companies have for a long time and continue to do business with and prop up some of the world’s most brutal dictatorship. Like for example Saudia Arabia.

"On May 15, 2018, just weeks before the Saudi authorities lifted the ban on women driving on June 24, authorities launched arrests of prominent women’s rights activists and accused several of them of grave crimes like treason that appear to be directly related to their activism. By November at least nine women remain detained without charge, though some anticipated charges could carry prison terms of up to 20 years. The nine included Loujain al-Hathloul, Aziza al-Yousef, Eman al-Nafjan, Nouf Abdelaziz, Mayaa al-Zahrani, Hatoon al-Fassi, Samar Badawi, Nassema al-Sadah, and Amal al-Harbi. Human rights organizations reported in November that Saudi interrogators tortured at least four of the women, including by administering electric shocks, whipping the women on their thighs, and forcible hugging and kissing.

Saudi prosecutors escalated their longstanding campaign against dissidents in 2018 by seeking the death penalty against detainees on charges that related to nothing more than peaceful activism and dissent. By November those on trial facing the death penalty included prominent cleric Salman al-Awda, whose charges were connected to his alleged ties with the Muslim Brotherhood and public support for imprisoned dissidents, as well as Israa al-Ghomgham, a Shia activist from Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province whose charges related to her support for and participation in protests."

World Report 2019: Saudi Arabia | Human Rights Watch
 
Media_Truth said:
Playing-down the situation does not make it go away. Numerous areas have cited record temperatures.

Intense Heat Wave Hits Europe and Smashes Records | PEOPLE.com

Multiple all-time records in Western Europe have been broken as temperatures in Germany, the Czech Republic and Poland soared past 100 degrees Fahrenheit this month, placing many in the region at risk of conditions such as heat stroke and heat exhaustion.
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Temperature-related records in Austria, France, Spain and Switzerland have also been broken for June, according to The Weather Channel.
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As the Weather Channel reports, a 2004 study led by the University of Reading found that climate change, spurred on my humans, will make heat waves, like the one that killed thousands in Europe in 2003, four times more likely to happen.
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Also many parts of Europe arn't prepared for that kind of extreme heat. That air condition arn't that common and houses are build for cold winters not hot summers.

Europe heat wave 2019: record heat wave hits Spain, France, and Germany - Vox
 
longview said:
If the assumptions for all of the above are correct!
Remember none of this is actually based on empirical measurements.
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Certainty and uncertainty is shown on the graphic.
 
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Colorado had a cool early summer, and now it's heating up. I'm not sure why the author would state that "it made life miserable".
I'll tell you what makes life miserable in Colorado - WILDFIRES! We've gotten an early break from wildfires! However worldwide, 2019 is on course to be the second warmest year ever. This was predicted by the scientists at NASA. You should listen to the Scientists.
 
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Media_Truth said:
However worldwide, 2019 is on course to be the second warmest year ever. This was predicted by the scientists at NASA. You should listen to the Scientists.
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Actually, the claim was for third warmest. Unlikely to come true, but you should keep your propaganda points straight.
 
Media_Truth said:
Belongs in the CT Forum...
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You do not think fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want?
It is the basis of most of the worlds religions.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Why do you worry so much about imaginary “oppression” in the west and seem to care so little about real oppression. For example that the oil companies have for a long time and continue to do business with and prop up some of the world’s most brutal dictatorship. Like for example Saudia Arabia.

"On May 15, 2018, just weeks before the Saudi authorities lifted the ban on women driving on June 24, authorities launched arrests of prominent women’s rights activists and accused several of them of grave crimes like treason that appear to be directly related to their activism. By November at least nine women remain detained without charge, though some anticipated charges could carry prison terms of up to 20 years. The nine included Loujain al-Hathloul, Aziza al-Yousef, Eman al-Nafjan, Nouf Abdelaziz, Mayaa al-Zahrani, Hatoon al-Fassi, Samar Badawi, Nassema al-Sadah, and Amal al-Harbi. Human rights organizations reported in November that Saudi interrogators tortured at least four of the women, including by administering electric shocks, whipping the women on their thighs, and forcible hugging and kissing.

Saudi prosecutors escalated their longstanding campaign against dissidents in 2018 by seeking the death penalty against detainees on charges that related to nothing more than peaceful activism and dissent. By November those on trial facing the death penalty included prominent cleric Salman al-Awda, whose charges were connected to his alleged ties with the Muslim Brotherhood and public support for imprisoned dissidents, as well as Israa al-Ghomgham, a Shia activist from Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province whose charges related to her support for and participation in protests."

World Report 2019: Saudi Arabia | Human Rights Watch
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You seem to ready to equate things that are not equal.
 
Media_Truth said:
Certainty and uncertainty is shown on the graphic.
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Yes, and they add up to more than the measurement, and still are based on assumptions not in evidence.
 
longview said:
You do not think fear has a proven track record of getting people to behave like you want?
It is the basis of most of the worlds religions.
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Yes FEAR is definitely used as a motivation factor. But when 15 of the 18 warmest years ever, have occurred since 2000, that a REALITY tactic, not a FEAR tactic.
 
longview said:
Yes, and they add up to more than the measurement, and still are based on assumptions not in evidence.
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If you would cite the IPCC literature, and point out the assumptions, it might help your case. The whole point of deeply studied Scientific models, that continue to be very accurate, year-after-year, is that they remove the guesswork.
 
Jack Hays said:
Actually, the claim was for third warmest. Unlikely to come true, but you should keep your propaganda points straight.
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Whether it's 2nd warmest or 3rd warmest, it's not a propaganda point. It will be FACT. And the accumulation of these facts year-after-year must really be disheartening for the deniers. The IPCC models continue to be dead-on, and your denier sites are nothing but untruthful blogs.
 
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