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Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

Jack Hays said:
Now arrived home.

Is that a serious question? After the barrage of Melting stories? Heller's graphs show how overwrought the doomsday claims are.
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Jack Hays said:
Now arrived home.

Is that a serious question? After the barrage of Melting stories? Heller's graphs show how overwrought the doomsday claims are.
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How so? Heller's graphs show the fluctuations in the surface mass balance of the Greenland ice. As far as I can see, the graphs are entirely consistent with both the heavier snowfall (winter spikes) and greater melting (summer lows) expected with a warming climate. Why would you think they don't? Do you actually understand what the graphs mean?

Edit: You don't appear to have grasped the significance of 3G's graph either.
 
Surface Detail said:
How so? Heller's graphs show the fluctuations in the surface mass balance of the Greenland ice. As far as I can see, the graphs are entirely consistent with both the heavier snowfall (winter spikes) and greater melting (summer lows) expected with a warming climate. Why would you think they don't? Do you actually understand what the graphs mean?

Edit: You don't appear to have grasped the significance of 3G's graph either.
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1. Only downward trends are attributed to climate, while stable or increasing ice is attributed to weather.
2. "Record" low is really not a record low.
3. 3G's graph is unremarkable. There's no evidence it's a "death spiral."
 
Jack Hays said:
1. Only downward trends are attributed to climate, while stable or increasing ice is attributed to weather.
2. "Record" low is really not a record low.
3. 3G's graph is unremarkable. There's no evidence it's a "death spiral."
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No evidence? I posted the figure showing it.

And it comes from NSIDC, which monitors this closely, and is run by professionals, as opposed to some dude in a basement publishing an amateur blog who has never actually seen arctic ice in person.
 
Threegoofs said:
No evidence? I posted the figure showing it.

And it comes from NSIDC, which monitors this closely, and is run by professionals, as opposed to some dude in a basement publishing an amateur blog who has never actually seen arctic ice in person.
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Ice decline over 40 years. Yawn.
 
Jack Hays said:
Well, no. That is what remains to be seen.
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It does, but as the arctic gets warmer, and as the accurate models have consistently shown, the ice will disappear in a matter of decades.

Even with all that ‘cooling’ you hilariously perseverate about...
 
Threegoofs said:
It does, but as the arctic gets warmer, and as the accurate models have consistently shown, the ice will disappear in a matter of decades.

Even with all that ‘cooling’ you hilariously perseverate about...
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We shall see.
 
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