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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'll rest on what I said and dismiss garbage when I see it.
    Despite that the "garbage" is from 100% NASA.........., sound like you are running again.


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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    Here it AGAIN!

    IPCC 1990 FAR report



    This is from the IPCC website, which I have showed you before, now you can drop your memory hole lie.
    So...0.1 to 0.8 degrees per decade.

    And the numbers will be accelerating throughout those 100+ years.

    What, exactly did they not get right?
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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So...0.1 to 0.8 degrees per decade.

    And the numbers will be accelerating throughout those 100+ years.

    What, exactly did they not get right?
    What mechanism would allow the numbers to accelerate?
    Seriously, CO2's forcing slows down as CO2 levels increase,
    we would have to radically increase CO2 emissions, simple to keep up the rate of warming.
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    The data point I highlighted in red is 389 ppm, we are already past the point where the curve starts to flatten out.

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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    What mechanism would allow the numbers to accelerate?
    Seriously, CO2's forcing slows down as CO2 levels increase,
    we would have to radically increase CO2 emissions, simple to keep up the rate of warming.
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    The data point I highlighted in red is 389 ppm, we are already past the point where the curve starts to flatten out.
    So you don’t know the mechanism of this very, very standard prediction.

    Yet somehow, you think you know worse than all the scientists put together.
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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So you don’t know the mechanism of this very, very standard prediction.

    Yet somehow, you think you know worse than all the scientists put together.
    Since we do not know the opinion of "all the scientists put together",
    speculation on what I think relative to that imagined group, is irrelevant.
    What I am asking is by what mechanism do you think the warming is predicted to accelerate?
    If emissions stayed the same, warming would decelerate,
    It would take a massive increase in emissions to keep warming the same, and greater than that to make the warming accelerate.
    but let's do the math just for fun!
    As CO2 levels rose from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, we have seen an assumed forcing of 5.35 X ln(410/280)=2.04Wm-2.
    to get an additional 2.04 Wm-2 of forcing would require CO2 levels to be 601ppm,
    To accelerate warming, the emissions would have to get to that number much quicker than the current ~3ppm/year.

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    Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Since we do not know the opinion of "all the scientists put together",
    speculation on what I think relative to that imagined group, is irrelevant.
    What I am asking is by what mechanism do you think the warming is predicted to accelerate?
    If emissions stayed the same, warming would decelerate,
    It would take a massive increase in emissions to keep warming the same, and greater than that to make the warming accelerate.
    but let's do the math just for fun!
    As CO2 levels rose from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, we have seen an assumed forcing of 5.35 X ln(410/280)=2.04Wm-2.
    to get an additional 2.04 Wm-2 of forcing would require CO2 levels to be 601ppm,
    To accelerate warming, the emissions would have to get to that number much quicker than the current ~3ppm/year.
    Look.

    You don’t understand.

    Maybe you should reflect upon what that means for your general understanding of the issue.

    Why are you asking ME to explain it to you when it’s explained in the literature?
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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    NO... I do not know. And I refuse to go back there and look as I can't search without logging in. And I have long ago lost my password.

    And now you're going to call me a liar? You are lucky I am not like Jack and won't bother to report you to the mods. I think it is time for you to quit whining every time I call you or someone else a denier. You are way worse about name-calling then I have ever been.
    Your own words makes it clear, since any person NOT lying wouldn't bother to write this backtrack at all:

    Oh... and other forums don't count because it is against the rules to link to them.


    Why did you do it?

    I had written this you responded too:


    You state this because you KNOW that I did post them at a certain forum repeatedly to YOU, now you have by unintentional accident exposed yourself as a liar on this, otherwise you wouldn't have written it at all, if it never happened!

    You are pathetic.


    You call people in the forum a liar, over and over too.

    Stop being a hypocrite!
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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Look.

    You don’t understand.

    Maybe you should reflect upon what that means for your general understanding of the issue.

    Why are you asking ME to explain it to you when it’s explained in the literature?
    It is you who does not understand that getting acceleration out of a doubling curve requires
    emissions beyond the currently observed rate, an even increasing the emissions would not create acceleration,
    unless the emissions increased by a large percentage.

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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    It is you who does not understand that getting acceleration out of a doubling curve requires
    emissions beyond the currently observed rate, an even increasing the emissions would not create acceleration,
    unless the emissions increased by a large percentage.
    What you’re saying is that every iteration of the IPCC, for the last 30 years, has gotten a basic concept in error.

    But you don’t know why they made the ‘error’ in the first place.

    Isn’t that a bit disconcerting for you when you give it a little think?

    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June melting

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    What you’re saying is that every iteration of the IPCC, for the last 30 years, has gotten a basic concept in error.

    But you don’t know why they made the ‘error’ in the first place.

    Isn’t that a bit disconcerting for you when you give it a little think?

    When the foundation is off, so is everything you build on it.
    A Joe Biden type remark:

    "People are dying who haven't died before."

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