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    Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    It seems the telecoms and assorted industries are implying that 5G will be as harmless to us, rather as the tobacco companies told us cigarettes are harmless.

    Many scientists say otherwise, and that all biological species will suffer from RF radiation, and that seems logical.

    Radio Frequency Radiation (EMF) Threatens Plant and Animal Species with Extinction - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

    Any thoughts on this issue?

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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

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    Any thoughts on this issue?
    The yearbook answer so far is "According to studies we have so far there is nothing to suggest 5G mmWave posses a significant health risk, but more research is needed to ensure."

    Best I can tell no relevant regulation agency in the US has classified 5G mmWave as cancer causing, but we had this argument back in the 2G and 3G days also talking about increases to "RF radiation" that is nothing more than another term for radio waves.

    There may be some increased concerns over all this but I doubt it will be near enough to suggest we cannot go to 5G.
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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    The yearbook answer so far is "According to studies we have so far there is nothing to suggest 5G mmWave posses a significant health risk, but more research is needed to ensure."

    Best I can tell no relevant regulation agency in the US has classified 5G mmWave as cancer causing, but we had this argument back in the 2G and 3G days also talking about increases to "RF radiation" that is nothing more than another term for radio waves.

    There may be some increased concerns over all this but I doubt it will be near enough to suggest we cannot go to 5G.
    Thanks. With 5G compared to 3 and 4G, the frequency changes.

    You refer to studies we have so far. Might you be familiar with any of them? I have not been able to find any actual results of such studies. Much speculation, of course, and reassurances that all will be well, but no actual studies. Part of that, I'm sure, is because no such systems exist with which to actually conduct any such tests.

    I cannot help but compare it to the case with cigarettes, which were passed out free to US troops in the old days, long before the internal discussions of tobacco companies were discovered. Or the assurances of pharmaceutical companies who brought us the "harmless" opioids.

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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    It seems the telecoms and assorted industries are implying that 5G will be as harmless to us, rather as the tobacco companies told us cigarettes are harmless.

    Many scientists say otherwise, and that all biological species will suffer from RF radiation, and that seems logical.

    Radio Frequency Radiation (EMF) Threatens Plant and Animal Species with Extinction - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

    Any thoughts on this issue?
    5G runs in the 3 to 5 Ghz band, roughly the same area already covered by Wifi,
    so if using those frequencies all over the place, would have done something, it already would have happened.
    We all live with those frequencies around us every day, and have for almost 20 years.

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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    You refer to studies we have so far. Might you be familiar with any of them?
    That is where it gets fun...

    Turns out regulation of "electromagnetic radiation emitting devices" falls under the Food and Drug Association (FDA) and has for sometime now, so I went to that website which references studies without really naming them or who performed them. Similar story from the American Cancer Society.

    General internet searching ends up with a plethora of articles on these studies without much link to these studies. Sorry.

    If I recall correctly, this was the same story with 4G... 3G... on back. Many talked about it of course, unsure of their sources.
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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    5G runs in the 3 to 5 Ghz band, roughly the same area already covered by Wifi,
    so if using those frequencies all over the place, would have done something, it already would have happened.
    We all live with those frequencies around us every day, and have for almost 20 years.
    Yes, and by many standards, we're all crazy as hell with all sorts of strange health conditions.

    But I do understand your point. I have WiFi in my house now, but only for a few years, and I've wondered about what effects it has on my sleep.

    I'm too old to really worry about this 5G proposal, but I do wonder about future generations including my children and grandchildren. I don't even have a smartphone, and do not intend to buy one.

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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    It seems the telecoms and assorted industries are implying that 5G will be as harmless to us, rather as the tobacco companies told us cigarettes are harmless.

    Many scientists say otherwise, and that all biological species will suffer from RF radiation, and that seems logical.

    Radio Frequency Radiation (EMF) Threatens Plant and Animal Species with Extinction - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

    Any thoughts on this issue?
    I think the problem will present itself when they try to use the upper frequency bands of 5G (20GHz+). Since those frequencies will be affected by moisture, weather, buildings, etc it will require more antennas in an area to transmit the signals. As long as 5G stays in the bands close to 4G (I believe they are going to 6GHz to start with), I think you will see marginal differences.
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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    I think the problem will present itself when they try to use the upper frequency bands of 5G (20GHz+). Since those frequencies will be affected by moisture, weather, buildings, etc it will require more antennas in an area to transmit the signals. As long as 5G stays in the bands close to 4G (I believe they are going to 6GHz to start with), I think you will see marginal differences.
    I guess it's not in that article I linked to, but I'm pretty sure I've read in other articles that the frequencies to be used are above 30 gig.

    The Europeans have done more work in studying the effects, especially in Holland. The results are not encouraging. IMO the harmful effects on the human body will be greater than cigarettes were.

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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    It seems the telecoms and assorted industries are implying that 5G will be as harmless to us, rather as the tobacco companies told us cigarettes are harmless.

    Many scientists say otherwise, and that all biological species will suffer from RF radiation, and that seems logical.

    Radio Frequency Radiation (EMF) Threatens Plant and Animal Species with Extinction - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

    Any thoughts on this issue?

    Yes, we are being used as guinea pigs. They just don't know what is going to happen. I don't like it, the 5G towers will be many more than exist now.

    If I understand what is going on, correctly.
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    Re: Will 5G help or hurt the planet?

    OP source is a CT garbage website.


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