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    Re: Sorry Alarmists. There Is No Climate Chaos

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    First, this study is on intensity, not overall number which my data clearly shows is increasing and you've yet to even attempt to refute that.
    No, that's not the conclusion of the authors. A local change in frequency is by definition not a global phenomenon.
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    The first problem here is obviously that they're only going back three decades. Global warming began long before that.

    Secondly, the North Atlantic is a key basin. Many of the others are located where it's already very hot or still very cold. You expect to notice the changes the most in the parts of the ocean that's in the middle. The North Atlantic is just above the Tropic of Cancer and watching how storms that originate further south behave as they go north is very telling.

    It is a fact that warmer ocean water drives tropical storms. As that water temperature continues to increase globally it is quite obvious what that will lead to you can manipulate data all you want to make it look less significant, but it doesn't change reality. This will get worse over time whether you think the storms of today are showing those signs yet or not.
    I included graphs going back several decades that show no significant change in incidence.

    For years they have been speculating that warmer sea surface temperature would result in stronger and more frequent hurricanes, but so far this has not borne out.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: Sorry Alarmists. There Is No Climate Chaos

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    First, this study is on intensity, not overall number which my data clearly shows is increasing and you've yet to even attempt to refute that.
    Neither number nor intensity is increasing. Since we've already dealt with number, here's intensity (accumulated cyclone energy).


    Figure: Last 4-decades of Global and Northern Hemisphere Accumulated Cyclone Energy: 24 month running sums. Note that the year indicated represents the value of ACE through the previous 24-months for the Northern Hemisphere (bottom line/gray boxes) and the entire global (top line/blue boxes). The area in between represents the Southern Hemisphere total ACE.
    1970- September 2017 monthly ACE Data File (Maue, 2010, 2011 GRL)
    1970- Sept 2012 global tropical cyclone frequency monthly Data File

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    Re: Sorry Alarmists. There Is No Climate Chaos

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The advocates argue for "doing things to slow climate change." The science suggests there is no need.
    Well that's good to know. Get yourself to the next silly climate summit and convince everyone. I'll look for you article in Scientific American.

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    Re: Sorry Alarmists. There Is No Climate Chaos

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    Well that's good to know. Get yourself to the next silly climate summit and convince everyone. I'll look for you article in Scientific American.
    I'll be counting on Henrik Svensmark and Nir Shaviv for that. Svensmark recently presented his view.

    Henrik Svensmark: Force Majeure Ė The Sunís Role In Climate Change (PDF)
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