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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The push for green energy is also an utter failure. Germany is a huge example of this- if they cant do it, how would the rest of the world fare if we stick to what the doomsayers want?

    Germany’s Shift to Green Power Stalls, Despite Huge Investments - The New York Times
    Given the proven excellence of German engineering if they cant make it work then nobody can

    500 Billion Euros down the drain ..... yet the gravy train rolls on

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Do you understand the power of Mother Nature vs. the power of CO2 forcing? You should learn real science and quantification of such energy forces.
    nature seems to allow different gases to hold on to warmth from sunlight humans can change the world nature dosent care

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Accepting the scientific fact that mankind has a serious effect on the atmosphere would be at odds with your libertarian beliefs that the invisible hand of the market will magically fix everything, so you pretend you're an expert on the subject and make **** up and whine about scientific facts. You've really gone off the deep end with the rest of the nutters.

    You don't believe this because you're highly informed and actively involved in the science, it's purely so you can continue believing whatever the hell you want to believe. Some people are just that stupid and arrogant apparently.
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    Lol, that's really all it is, idealogues who are desperately trying to cling to their nonsense despite it being contradicted by reality.
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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We've all heard the loud talking from the chicken littles who blame humans as the cause for all the so-called CO2 rise thats in the atmosphere, but very little admittance from the doomsayers as to what should be done about it. Well, here is what the IPCC is demanding:

    We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN | Environment | The Guardian


    Yup, the IPCC is obsessed with maintaining a 1.5C rise at the maximum, and squarely puts the blame on humanity (even though there is no definite proof that we are causing a slight rise in temp, nor is there proof that more severe weather or mass extinction will happen).

    In order to get to specifics, here is an article from the BBC on how to achieve a net zero carbon footprint in the UK.

    Extinction Rebellion: What do they want and is it realistic? - BBC News



    So there you go:

    - Every available space has to be allocated for wind farms (how this can be reconciled with reforestation is not explained)
    - No more cars with fossil fuels.
    - You are allowed to take a flight on an airliner once every two years
    - You will be forced to eat a mainly vegetarian diet
    - No mention about how to get China, India or any other countries to adopt this (War? Economic sanctions?)

    There you have it, folks. This is the world they want you to live in (even though all this doomsday stuff is unproven).

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We've all heard the loud talking from the chicken littles who blame humans as the cause for all the so-called CO2 rise thats in the atmosphere, but very little admittance from the doomsayers as to what should be done about it. Well, here is what the IPCC is demanding:

    We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN | Environment | The Guardian


    Yup, the IPCC is obsessed with maintaining a 1.5C rise at the maximum, and squarely puts the blame on humanity (even though there is no definite proof that we are causing a slight rise in temp, nor is there proof that more severe weather or mass extinction will happen).

    In order to get to specifics, here is an article from the BBC on how to achieve a net zero carbon footprint in the UK.

    Extinction Rebellion: What do they want and is it realistic? - BBC News



    So there you go:

    - Every available space has to be allocated for wind farms (how this can be reconciled with reforestation is not explained)
    - No more cars with fossil fuels.
    - You are allowed to take a flight on an airliner once every two years
    - You will be forced to eat a mainly vegetarian diet
    - No mention about how to get China, India or any other countries to adopt this (War? Economic sanctions?)

    There you have it, folks. This is the world they want you to live in (even though all this doomsday stuff is unproven).

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Are there any commercial thorium power reactors?
    That's my point. China and India have had success with their startup projects, so it appears that scale isn't an issue.
    There could be commercial thorium reactors tomorrow if we want them. There could have been a very long time ago had we not been forced into a "Sophie's Choice" of choosing Thorium or Uranium/Plutonium.
    The military won out because they wanted weapons potential but we should have continued developing Thorium back then for commercial power. We shelved it only because Congress did not want to invest in development of both fuel cycles.

    It was a Cold War style decision but with little attention paid to civilian peacetime needs.
    And while Thorium presents its own unique challenges and potential risks, meltdowns are NOT one of them.
    That alone is significant enough to warrant an all hands on deck approach to bringing it to the forefront.
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    Russia did no such thing. Oh...for sure, they might have tried to "affect" our stupid, useful idiot voters but they didn't do anything to "fix" our election.

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Here's another CC doomsayer, only this one is running for POTUS!

    Democratic 2020 Candidate Jay Inslee Has A $9 Trillion Idea To Fix Climate Change

    Jay Inslee, the Washington governor now running for president, is proposing $9 trillion in new climate-related investment over the next decade as part of his sweeping climate change policy, one that goes further in detail and ambition than climate plans from any other 2020 presidential candidate.

    The “Evergreen Economy Plan” is Inslee’s second climate proposal this month, offering fresh details and price tags that expand upon the broad goals laid out in the first plan. There are even more policies to come in the future, according to Inslee’s campaign.

    “Our first was based on the standards that we need to set and the second is a very robust, bold, and comprehensive plan on how to meet those standards,” Inslee told BuzzFeed News.

    “An essential part of the theory on this is we want all Americans to have a chance to prosper, have a healthy future, and that includes those in some of the older industries as we’re transitioning to the future,” he said.

    In early May, Inslee proposed shuttering all US coal plants by 2030 and pledged to support the coal workers whose jobs would disappear and the communities they live in. The new proposal explains exactly how he will do that, pitching a “G.I. Bill” to ensure retirement and health benefits for workers in the coal, oil, and other industries who could be jobless if the US quickly transitions away from fossil fuels to a clean energy economy. Moreover, these workers and their communities would be offered education and training to pursue work in other sectors.
    Yup, that's right. $9 trillion of taxpayers money will be pushed into the green stuff if this guy gets elected. The Germans were dumb enough to go green and look at what's happened to them...

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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    or you just don't want to belve humanity is affecting the climate because that would cost you and you want to rally support by getting people to belve it will cost them a lot if they acept man made global warming as true
    Speaking for myself, I don't want the CO2 restrictions because they will do nothing to slow down climate change because CO2 is less than 5% of all greenhouse gases. And there are greenhouse gases residing in places other than the atmosphere.

    For something as important as stopping climate change, why are environmental 'scientists' relying on the tenants of unproven AGW (that man is the main or only causer of climate change) climate change?
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    Re: What The Doomsayers Want

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Here's another CC doomsayer, only this one is running for POTUS!

    Democratic 2020 Candidate Jay Inslee Has A $9 Trillion Idea To Fix Climate Change


    Yup, that's right. $9 trillion of taxpayers money will be pushed into the green stuff if this guy gets elected. The Germans were dumb enough to go green and look at what's happened to them...
    Yes, what a disaster. They appear to have developed wide-ranging expertise in the energy sources of the future on top of a booming economy and record low unemployment. Dumb saps!
    Last edited by Surface Detail; 05-17-19 at 07:29 AM.

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