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Global Warming Confirmed

How about refuting something I wrote instead of your insipid sarcasm.

You can't refute any of it because it's all common knowledge.

You're not a serious person. You're just yapping.

People like you make these boards useless.
 
Just like the gravity and non-gravity scientists.

Such a joke.

I'm still waiting for all those tens of thousands of greedy corrupt scientists (who are only in it for the money and will lie to continue their lavish lifestyles provided by government funding) who work in countries with Conservative governments (like the USA, UK, Australia etc) to do an about-face and claim AGW is not real. ;)
 
There is a document signed by 30,000 scientist saying that global warming is BS. Your 500 to 1 nonsense means that there are 15 Million scientist that say it's real.

Are you really standing by that story?

Hahahah! The Oregon Petition?


Anyone who wants to see an expose of the scam of the 1998 Oregon Petition, can watch this video by science journalist Peter Sinclair who now writes for Yale Climate Connections.

32000 Scientists | The Oregon Petition

It's also not surprising to learn that Dr Frederick Seitz (a previous president of the NAS in the 1960's), who wrote a cover letter for the fake 'paper' sent out with the Oregon "petition", was a highly paid consultant for the Tobacco industry for many years and directed 45 million dollars in funding for "studies" that dishonestly attempted to show no connection between smoking and health problems. He moved on to doing the same sort of thing for the fossil fuel industry about climate science as co-founder and chairman of the George C Marshall Institute.

In an interview in 2006 with Vanity Fair, Seitz was asked about the morality of taking money and shilling for the tobacco industry. Seitz is quoted as saying he was comfortable with taking the money "as long as it's green. I'm not quite clear about this moralistic issue."

The corrupt "scientists" are the ones like Seitz who are paid well to cast doubt and lie about the harmful effects of smoking tobacco or about climate science, not your average atmospheric physicist or oceanographer or scientists from many different fields doing research involving climate science.

It doesn't bode well when the originators of the Oregon Petition used deliberate deception right from the very start, prompting the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) to release a statement to clear up the deception.

Here is the National Academy of Sciences statement about the Oregon petition, including addressing the dishonest tactic used by the organisers in using an op ed from the Wall Street Journal and an un-published 'paper' designed to look like a research paper from the NAS:

Home | The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine | National-Academies.org

STATEMENT BY THE COUNCIL
OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES
REGARDING GLOBAL CHANGE PETITION


April 20, 1998

The Council of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is concerned about the confusion caused by a petition being circulated via a letter from a former president of this Academy. This petition criticizes the science underlying the Kyoto treaty on carbon dioxide emissions (the Kyoto Protocol to the Framework Convention on Climate Change), and it asks scientists to recommend rejection of this treaty by the U.S. Senate. The petition was mailed with an op-ed article from The Wall Street Journal and a manuscript in a format that is nearly identical to that of scientific articles published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal.

The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy.

In particular, the Committee on Science, Engineering, and Public Policy of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering (NAE), and the Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted a major consensus study on this issue, entitled Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming (1991,1992). This analysis concluded that " ...even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. ... Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises." In addition, the Committee on Global Change Research of the National Research Council, the operating arm of the NAS and the NAE, will issue a major report later this spring on the research issues that can help to reduce the scientific uncertainties associated with global change phenomena, including climate change.

NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES COUNCIL​
 
There is a document signed by 30,000 people.

Only suckers believe it’s all signed by scientists.

But but...Charles Darwin signed it!
 
How about refuting something I wrote instead of your insipid sarcasm.

You can't refute any of it because it's all common knowledge.

You're not a serious person. You're just yapping.

People like you make these boards useless.

LOL.
I just told you your ‘document’ is BS, and not signed by scientists.

Do you need a link to this obvious information?

FACT CHECK: Did 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change a Hoax?

Maybe if you put just a little effort into understanding rather than regurgitating Fox News, you might get some knowledge from this board.
 
There is a document signed by 30,000 scientist saying that global warming is BS. Your 500 to 1 nonsense means that there are 15 Million scientist that say it's real.

Are you really standing by that story?

Yes, their dogma is real in their mind. They will stand by it till they die. The AGW lord will give them a heaven with no CO2, and no plant life.

Hell comes to mind...
 
Hahahah! The Oregon Petition?


Anyone who wants to see an expose of the scam of the 1998 Oregon Petition, can watch this video by science journalist Peter Sinclair who now writes for Yale Climate Connections.

32000 Scientists | The Oregon Petition

It's also not surprising to learn that Dr Frederick Seitz (a previous president of the NAS in the 1960's), who wrote a cover letter for the fake 'paper' sent out with the Oregon "petition", was a highly paid consultant for the Tobacco industry for many years and directed 45 million dollars in funding for "studies" that dishonestly attempted to show no connection between smoking and health problems. He moved on to doing the same sort of thing for the fossil fuel industry about climate science as co-founder and chairman of the George C Marshall Institute.

In an interview in 2006 with Vanity Fair, Seitz was asked about the morality of taking money and shilling for the tobacco industry. Seitz is quoted as saying he was comfortable with taking the money "as long as it's green. I'm not quite clear about this moralistic issue."

The corrupt "scientists" are the ones like Seitz who are paid well to cast doubt and lie about the harmful effects of smoking tobacco or about climate science, not your average atmospheric physicist or oceanographer or scientists from many different fields doing research involving climate science.

It doesn't bode well when the originators of the Oregon Petition used deliberate deception right from the very start, prompting the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) to release a statement to clear up the deception.

Here is the National Academy of Sciences statement about the Oregon petition, including addressing the dishonest tactic used by the organisers in using an op ed from the Wall Street Journal and an un-published 'paper' designed to look like a research paper from the NAS:

Home | The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine | National-Academies.org

STATEMENT BY THE COUNCIL
OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES
REGARDING GLOBAL CHANGE PETITION


April 20, 1998

The Council of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is concerned about the confusion caused by a petition being circulated via a letter from a former president of this Academy. This petition criticizes the science underlying the Kyoto treaty on carbon dioxide emissions (the Kyoto Protocol to the Framework Convention on Climate Change), and it asks scientists to recommend rejection of this treaty by the U.S. Senate. The petition was mailed with an op-ed article from The Wall Street Journal and a manuscript in a format that is nearly identical to that of scientific articles published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal.

The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy.

In particular, the Committee on Science, Engineering, and Public Policy of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering (NAE), and the Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted a major consensus study on this issue, entitled Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming (1991,1992). This analysis concluded that " ...even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. ... Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises." In addition, the Committee on Global Change Research of the National Research Council, the operating arm of the NAS and the NAE, will issue a major report later this spring on the research issues that can help to reduce the scientific uncertainties associated with global change phenomena, including climate change.

NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES COUNCIL​

Now you are trying to say scientists are stupid.

You really buy anything published that fits your confirmation bias. Don't you.
 
There is a document signed by 30,000 people.

Only suckers believe it’s all signed by scientists.

They weeded you the people like you who signed it. Signed it to later point out and cry "fraud."

Yes, the bad entries were removed. It took time, but they were.
 
There is a document signed by 30,000 scientist saying that global warming is BS. Your 500 to 1 nonsense means that there are 15 Million scientist that say it's real.

Are you really standing by that story?
Lol...back that in bold up wth a link, please.
 
They weeded you the people like you who signed it. Signed it to later point out and cry "fraud."

Yes, the bad entries were removed. It took time, but they were.
Did Alex Jones tell you that?
 
(Citation needed)

Just go back to threads years back. It has been pointed out. You can look it up as easily as I. I'm amazed that such things settled in the past are forgotten by you guys.
 
Now you are trying to say scientists are stupid.

You really buy anything published that fits your confirmation bias. Don't you.


The 1998 Oregon Petition was a clear scam. Most of the people the fake 'paper' was sent to were not climate scientists or even from earth sciences fields. What would a dentist or a doctor or a food technician with a BSc know about earth sciences or climate science?

You really dismiss anything that doesn't fit your confirmation bias and accept anything that supports it. Don't you.
 
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Just go back to threads years back. It has been pointed out. You can look it up as easily as I. I'm amazed that such things settled in the past are forgotten by you guys.

In other words.. you really, really want to believe it’s true, but don’t even have the motivation to back up your statement.
 
In other words.. you really, really want to believe it’s true, but don’t even have the motivation to back up your statement.

[h=3]Global Warming Petition Project[/h]
[url]www.petitionproject.org/

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31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs. For information about this project, click on the appropriate box below.Purpose of Petition · ‎Qualifications of Signers · ‎12-page review article about ... · ‎Seitz
 
[h=3]Global Warming Petition Project[/h]
[url]www.petitionproject.org/

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31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs. For information about this project, click on the appropriate box below.Purpose of Petition · ‎Qualifications of Signers · ‎12-page review article about ... · ‎Seitz

I'm a scientist. I have a BSEE. I could sign that petition. Indeed, when one looks at those with degrees in Climatology who have published peer review papers, there is nearly unanimous support of man-made climate change (97%). Cook explains this very well...

https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...=da0686d63d250878d25487e37154d534&action=view
 
Science does not "confirm" anything...

Facts are not "universal truths" nor are they "proofs".

Evidence is subject to Phenomenology...

What is the "gold standard" level of certainty?

There is no such thing as a "greenhouse gas"...

How does one measure a global temperature? How many thermometers does one use?? -- It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Science is not "consensus"...

"Global Warming" is nothing more than a circularly-defined buzzword... It is a void argument.

~ :thinking But ... Elizabeth Warren said climate change should be declared as a national emergency ? AOC says it's today's generation WW2 ! WE must declare war and fight Mother Nature -
 
~ :thinking But ... Elizabeth Warren said climate change should be declared as a national emergency ?
These types have the idea in their heads that they can effectively rule as a fascist Oligarchy by means of "National Emergency" declarations... The circularly-defined buzzword 'climate change' would be one such example... Gun grabbing would be another, as guns/crime will be a 'national emergency' to them as well... These Dems don't realize that Trump's emergency declarations have all been constitutional, while theirs would not be... but not like they give a damn about the document, since they desire to effectively replace it with their fascist oligarchical rule...

AOC says it's today's generation WW2 ! WE must declare war and fight Mother Nature -
Yup. AOC thinks that we will all be dead in 12 years if we don't "act now"... She wants to effectively replace air travel with high speed rail. She also wants us to stop eating meat products such as hamburgers, since cows fart too much. She has MUCH to learn about numerous subjects...
 
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