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Oceans Warming Faster than Predicted

Jack Hays said:
Science: The Deep Ocean Plays A ‘Leading Role’ In Global Warming. It’s Colder Now Than During The 1700s.

By Kenneth Richard on 10. January 2019


Authors of a new paper published in the journal Science (Gebbie and Huybers, 2019) insist “the deep ocean ultimately plays a leading role in the planetary heat budget.” The global deep ocean has much less heat today than it had during both the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.
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Image Source: Gebbie and Huybers, 2019
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Earth does not have a 'heat budget'. ALL the energy absorbed by the Earth is emitted by the Earth (less a variation of plant life). It is not possible to measure the global ocean temperature.
 
Media_Truth said:
The upward trend is obvious.
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There is no 'trend' to random numbers. They are random.
Media_Truth said:
Oceans warm very slowly.
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It is not possible to measure the temperature of the oceans of Earth.
Media_Truth said:
It's an incredible amount of mass.
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Rather a drop in the bucket, compared to the mass of the Earth.
Media_Truth said:
The flip side is that oceans cool very slowly.
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It is not possible to measure the temperature of the oceans.
Media_Truth said:
That's the scary part.
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There is nothing scary about random numbers.
Media_Truth said:
Your point just demonstrates that there is a point of no return,
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There is no 'trigger point'.
Media_Truth said:
and our children and grandchildren will inherit that.
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The only thing they will inherit is the history of people like you warning about 'impending doom' and how wrong you are.
 
Media_Truth said:
I understand that you don't have a scientific education, but didn't they teach you how to read a graph in business school.
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Science isn't data. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Graphs of random numbers have no meaning.
 
Media_Truth said:
Here's a link on four scientific methods used to measure ocean temperatures. Please review each one. State your scientific credentials, and tell us why these scientists are missing the mark with each method.

Measuring ocean temperature | Science Buzz
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Science isn't credentials. It is not a 'method' or a 'procedure'. It is not data or the collection of data. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
There are not enough thermometers. This is a math problem, not a science problem.
Satellites are incapable of measuring absolute temperature. They can only measure light. The emissivity of Earth is unknown.
Acoustic methods do not tell you the temperature. They only tell you relative temperatures of ocean water in a vague way.
It is not possible to measure the sea level due to thermal expansion, since bigger factors such as local barometric pressure are in play.
 
Into the Night said:
Science isn't credentials. It is not a 'method' or a 'procedure'. It is not data or the collection of data. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
There are not enough thermometers. This is a math problem, not a science problem.
Satellites are incapable of measuring absolute temperature. They can only measure light. The emissivity of Earth is unknown.
Acoustic methods do not tell you the temperature. They only tell you relative temperatures of ocean water in a vague way.
It is not possible to measure the sea level due to thermal expansion, since bigger factors such as local barometric pressure are in play.
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You forgot to state your credentials. And you have nothing to back up your false claims.
 
Media_Truth said:
You forgot to state your credentials. And you have nothing to back up your false claims.
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Science isn't credentials. It is no university degree, government license, prize, or membership in any society, academy, or committee.

Credentials are meaningless on blind forums such as this one. They are not a proof. They are not science either. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. No one is prohibited from using or creating any theory of science.

Math is not a 'false claim'. The 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law are not 'false claims'.
 
There Has Been Just 0.1°C Of Unremarkable ‘Global Warming’ In The Last 50 Years

By Kenneth Richard on 18. February 2019
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I. According to the IPCC, the true manifestation of “global warming” can almost exclusively (93%) be found in the oceans. The surface air or atmospheric heat changes amount to just 1% of the “global warming” representation.

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Image Source: IPCC (2013)

II. In the first 2000 meters of the global ocean, there has only been about 0.1°C of “global warming” in the last 50 or 60 years. . . .
[h=4]III. Below that depth (2000 meters), the global ocean has been cooling since the 1990s. . . .[/h]
 
[h=4]The changes in the global ocean temperatures for the 0-1000 meter layer during the last 200 years are so modest they are “below the detection limit”. There were far more rapid (>2°C/200 years) warming periods that occurred “naturally” during the Holocene.[/h]
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[h=6]Image Source: Bova et al., 2016[/h]
 
Media_Truth said:
You forgot to state your credentials. And you have nothing to back up your false claims.
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Science isn't credentials. It is not a 'method' or a 'procedure'. It is not data or the collection of data. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
 
Media_Truth said:
Here's a link on four scientific methods used to measure ocean temperatures. Please review each one. State your scientific credentials, and tell us why these scientists are missing the mark with each method.

Measuring ocean temperature | Science Buzz
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Those are all fairly modern methods for measuring temperature. Which means there is no way anyone can no with any kind of certainty what the ocean temperature was 20 years ago let alone 50, 100, or 500 years ago.
 
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