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Chuck Todd says his show is 'not going to give time to climate deniers'

Oh, and that agenda of controlling people? Science leaves that sort of thing to religion. It's what they're best at.

And AGW is the new politically corrected religion of the modern world in that you do not dare question its self righteous pronouncements, point out its errors nor ignore its diktats in order to be branded a denier denier pants on fire and shunned as an immoral Earth killing heretic worthy of the utmost revulsion and societal shame :roll:

Just hand over your cash as penance for existing and shut up you heathen :wink:
 
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WUWT is run by Anthony Watts, a darling of the Heartland Institute, funded by big oil. Show me a science denier and I'll link it to the fossil fuel industry virtually every time. Always follow the money, right?

WUWT receives no financial support from the fossil fuel industry. Your post is a lie.
 
And AGW is the new politically corrected religion of the modern world in that you do not dare question its self righteous pronouncements, point out its errors nor ignore its diktats in order to be branded a denier denier pants on fire and shunned as an immoral Earth killing heretic worthy of the utmost revulsion and societal shame

In other words, dogma.
 
There's always the Ten Ten No Pressure video. Old news of course but a reminder of how some
left-wingers that support AGW actually think is always appropriate:

 
I'm saying that Chuck Todd and the "Claimate Gate" emailers probably conspired.
Was it illegal? Well no, just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it's OK.

Well, no.

You were saying that scientists around the world can’t get grants (that are handed out by other scientists, in case you were clueless about the granting process, which I’m sure you are) because they have to be studying something that the grantors know is wrong.

Idiocy at the highest level, but an idea shared by many here.
 
AGW has no verifiable science whatsoever supporting it and climate models are pure nonsense given the sheer scale of the major inputted variables we cannot as yet empirically quantify. The 'evil' fossil fuel industry has nothing whatsoever to do with that reality

Prove me wrong ?

Guess you’re not going to bother to address your blatant lie and just plow thru it with more.
 
Chuck Todds job is to explore the questions of the day, it is not to issue dictates on what ideas are so wrong that they cant be talked about on the so-called platform that he controls.

What a dick.

If he feels that strongly what he should do is invite everyone who holds that idea who want to come, and then level their arguments, really embarrass them.

Maybe he lacks the skills.

Or maybe he is wrong.
 
Chuck Todds job is to explore the questions of the day, it is not to issue dictates on what ideas are so wrong that they cant be talked about on the so-called platform that he controls.

What a dick.

If he feels that strongly what he should do is invite everyone who holds that idea who want to come, and then level their arguments, really embarrass them.

Maybe he lacks the skills.

Or maybe he is wrong.

So should he have a communist, a socialist, an anarchist, a theocrat and a totalitarian on the panel every show he does about about politics?
 
So should he have a communist, a socialist, an anarchist, a theocrat and a totalitarian on the panel every show he does about about politics?

If they have something interesting to say on the questions of the day of course, and I remind you in democracy of free people the people decide what is interesting and what they believe, not Chuck Todd.

But the so-called journalists have decided that they need to be the "gate keepers" as they lie to us,

**** THEM!
 
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If they have something interesting to say on the questions of the day of course, and I remind you in democracy of free people the people decide what is interesting and what they believe, not Chuck Todd.

But the so-called journalists have decided that they need to be the "gate keepers" as they lie to us,

**** THEM!

That’s avoiding the question.

Because in my mind, the deniers have nothing interesting to say, so why have them on?
 
Todd, like most Climate alarmism "journalists", are little more than transmission belts for the dumbed down political tropes of a culture elite. Like most hand-maiden journalists Todd obtains his physic reward in social approval from his betters - the coveted crumbs of their bare acceptance of a second rate mind posing as informed.

Is Todd even bright enough to know he is a scamster selling a strawman? After all, he is a college dropout from poly sci, former political worker, and self-created television "journalist" whose an expert in nothing. Still, its obvious that he is an archetypical climate alarmism trickster.

Todd's disingenuousness is in his opening monologue. Initially he claims that he is (only) excluding global warming science deniers. Then without the slightest awareness, he says in the interests of representing "settled science" he wants to "thoroughly talk about" the effects of global warming with a panel of NON-SCIENTISTS representing the "expertise" of a politician, two former Obama bureaucrats, and another CNN axe-grinding journalist. Except for one scientist from NASA these so-called "experts" aren't qualified to present anything other than their own ignorance of science.

Todd's intent is clear; his intent was create a false choice, to ban anyone who might actually acknowledge climate change but was not on board with climate alarmist consquences. Not because the consequences are settled science, but because for Todd and millions like him they want a simple-minded, binary, dumbed down false choice: if you believe in human caused global warming THEN you MUST believe its a world crisis.

So nothing would have spoiled Todd's echo chamber more than allowing scientists, environmentalists, or economists who were not denialists or even skeptics, but also not overly alarmed. Intelligence is the enemy of popular propaganda journalism, and Todd is its poster boy.

And this guy thinks he represents science?

That part you cite was especially ridiculous so it's hard to believe he wasn't aware how it sounded or that he didn't know he was playing the role of shill for the climate cabal.
 
That’s avoiding the question.

Because in my mind, the deniers have nothing interesting to say, so why have them on?

I know ! Why question their heresy !

Work harder get smarter get richer hence the envy ends ... the jobs a good un and the melting world no longer needs to exist :thumbs:
 
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Now, it's your turn. I asked you ...
1) what you found when you looked into the methodology used in those 97% "studies" before you accepted their results.
and
2) why the warming graphs start at 1880 and what about the earlier period.

Junk science. And your questions are junk, too. I've given you more than enough already, so I can only assume that your ignorance is deliberate and stubborn.
 
That’s avoiding the question.

Because in my mind, the deniers have nothing interesting to say, so why have them on?

All you need do is look at some polling to know that this society is very split on our views on the interaction between humans and this planet and what if anything should be changed.......... this is by definition a major question of the day.........so when Todd goes "I have decided that this question is decided and over" he is being both a dick and the opposite of what a journalist should be.

On a question like this all of our opinions matter, Todds no more than mine...and if any major changes are to be made the people must be at minimum consulted, and should certainly be polled...with our determination mattering.

The FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! have done the learning/consulting with the people wrong here just as they do most everything poorly.

That is why Trump and all the Little Trumps are here now.
 
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Then you're a poor researcher. "Thomas Fuller climate" brings it all up. He's a science journalist.

Thank you. Just googling his name got me dead wroters and Canadian architects. Your insult about my research abilities was un-called for.

So, Fuller works for this guy:

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Philip_F._Anschutz

As I suspected, fossil fuel industry connection. And here's what I found on Fuller:

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Thomas_W._Fuller

"Fuller is not a scientist, and if he had a college degree in science circa 2010, it was not evident."

If, as you say, he's a science journalist, why do his articles make him sound like an actual scientist? He doesn't seem to cite the work of others, just spews out any hypothesis that helps keep deniers going.

Sorry, but Fuller is not a credible source on climate science. He's a hack.

Next?
 
Junk science.

That was NASA. Isn't NASA one of the sacred cows? Now it's junk science?

And your questions are junk, too. I've given you more than enough already, so I can only assume that your ignorance is deliberate and stubborn.

You didn't know so I answered what you asked and used a source you wouldn't normally call junk science, but you can't answer what I asked you so you decide to ghost away.
Still funny even though it's typical.
 
Climate change denialism is a farce and Chuck is correct, even if in the political world people want to continue to wrangle over it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Right wing America is the only sizeable group in the world that denies climate change, they’ve been fed that propaganda for so long it’s engrainedand nothing penetrates it.

If you can't see the climate changing for the worse over the past 50 years, you haven't been paying attention.
 
Thank you. Just googling his name got me dead wroters and Canadian architects. Your insult about my research abilities was un-called for.

...
Good. Then answer what I asked you twice.
1) what you found when you looked into the methodology used in those 97% "studies" before you accepted their results.
and
2) why the warming graphs start at 1880 and what about the earlier period.
 

Just insisting that you back up your claims, which you still have not done. Calling it "giving orders" makes you sound more than a little touchy here.

Which part of the information I provided is outdated? Show me the newer science that falsifies it, or any part of it. I've already shown you several reports that falsify both Shaviv's and Svensmark's hypotheses, yet you keep linking to them.
 
Thank you. Just googling his name got me dead wroters and Canadian architects. Your insult about my research abilities was un-called for.

So, Fuller works for this guy:

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Philip_F._Anschutz

As I suspected, fossil fuel industry connection. And here's what I found on Fuller:

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Thomas_W._Fuller

"Fuller is not a scientist, and if he had a college degree in science circa 2010, it was not evident."

If, as you say, he's a science journalist, why do his articles make him sound like an actual scientist? He doesn't seem to cite the work of others, just spews out any hypothesis that helps keep deniers going.

Sorry, but Fuller is not a credible source on climate science. He's a hack.

Next?

I find him quite credible. You, not so much.

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Just insisting that you back up your claims, which you still have not done. Calling it "giving orders" makes you sound more than a little touchy here.

Which part of the information I provided is outdated? Show me the newer science that falsifies it, or any part of it. I've already shown you several reports that falsify both Shaviv's and Svensmark's hypotheses, yet you keep linking to them.

The link in #163 directly refuted your claim, as I have already pointed out.
 
The link in #163 directly refuted your spurious "debunking" claim. That is why you dodged it.

It did no such thing. Again, I've provided plenty of links to the dismissal of those two: Shaviv and Svensmark. The science does not back them up, in fact it disproves their claims.
 
It did no such thing. Again, I've provided plenty of links to the dismissal of those two: Shaviv and Svensmark. The science does not back them up, in fact it disproves their claims.

Sorry, but I'm under no obligation to join you in your parallel universe. Your claim was refuted.
 
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