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EPA Dissolves an Advisory Panel of Scientists with Expertise on a Dangerous Air Pollutant

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In October 2018, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) dissolved the Particulate Matter Review Panel, a group of 20 scientific experts that advised EPA leadership on particulate matter air pollution, a set of microscopic air pollutants that are especially harmful to human health. EPA officials provided no explanation as to why the review panel was being disbanded.

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The explanation, presumably, is that the US has an administration whose concern with maintaining the profit margins of corporate entities (by allowing them to pollute at will) outweighs its concern for the health of its citizens. The bit I don't get is why people would vote for such an administration.
 
Media_Truth said:
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In October 2018, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) dissolved the Particulate Matter Review Panel, a group of 20 scientific experts that advised EPA leadership on particulate matter air pollution, a set of microscopic air pollutants that are especially harmful to human health. EPA officials provided no explanation as to why the review panel was being disbanded.

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Hmmmm...

When was that picture taken, before the advent of the EPA? So that is either pre 1970 ...or... maybe, just maybe the EPA isnt quite an effective counter to particulate matter air pollution?

Yano?
 
Surface Detail said:
The explanation, presumably, is that the US has an administration whose concern with maintaining the profit margins of corporate entities (by allowing them to pollute at will) outweighs its concern for the health of its citizens. The bit I don't get is why people would vote for such an administration.
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says the guy wasting electricity on something as inane as posting on an internet forum. If you believe your post above then we wont see you posting anymore. Youll be doing your part to reduce your carbon footprint.
 
AlphaOmega said:
says the guy wasting electricity on something as inane as posting on an internet forum. If you believe your post above then we wont see you posting anymore. Youll be doing your part to reduce your carbon footprint.
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Rational argument is clearly not one of your strengths. Presumably you are one of the people who voted for the aforementioned administration.
 
Surface Detail said:
Rational argument is clearly not one of your strengths. Presumably you are one of the people who voted for the aforementioned administration.
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I thought you were for clean air? I guess your need to internet post supercedes our clean air. Yeah I voted for Trump. Hes exceeding my expectations at getting you leftists in line. So why are you wasting electricity?
 
AlphaOmega said:
I thought you were for clean air? I guess your need to internet post supercedes our clean air. Yeah I voted for Trump. Hes exceeding my expectations at getting you leftists in line. So why are you wasting electricity?
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Given that I live in the UK and my computer is on anyway since I am working on it, I'm not entirely sure why you think my posting here affects your clean air. As I said, rationality really doesn't seem to be one of your strong points. As far as I'm concerned, you can go right ahead and poison yourself with particulates if that's what you want to do. It seems a shame that all the US citizens who didn't vote for the pumpkin-headed ***** grabber should have to share your fate though.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Hmmmm...

When was that picture taken, before the advent of the EPA? So that is either pre 1970 ...or... maybe, just maybe the EPA isnt quite an effective counter to particulate matter air pollution?

Yano?
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There's a 2018 picture of LA on this site. I won't bother posting it, but here's an excerpt from the article.

https://weather.com/health/news/2018-09-28-los-angeles-bad-air-quality-record

For nearly the entire summer, Los Angeles endured relentlessly bad air that set a new record for the most consecutive days with unhealthy air quality.
 
Contrary to what was stated in the article,
EPA officials provided no explanation as to why the review panel was being disbanded.
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The review of data related to air pollution will still be conducted by an external review panel.
https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabpeople.nsf/webcommittees/CASAC
The EPA Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee.
Since there is documented evidence of reports from the CASAC,
https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabpro...SAC!OpenView&Start=1&Count=800&Collapse=38#38
going backs to 1979, it sounds like the other review board was a redundant.
 
Media_Truth said:
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In October 2018, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) dissolved the Particulate Matter Review Panel, a group of 20 scientific experts that advised EPA leadership on particulate matter air pollution, a set of microscopic air pollutants that are especially harmful to human health. EPA officials provided no explanation as to why the review panel was being disbanded.

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EPA Dissolves an Advisory Panel of Scientists with Expertise on a Dangerous Air Pollutant​

I want the Trump administration to kick the EPA in the slats
and tell them to do their jobs and quit messing around with
the Global Warming/Climate Change nonsense. Maybe this
particular panel was redundant or the Union of Concerned
Scientists has it wrong. Clean air, clean water, sufficient
green space & wild life habitats - we all want these things.

We also want toilets that flush, wash machines that clean
clothes, lawn mowers that cut grass and domestic industries
that provide jobs.

On edit, Cross post - I see Longview says it's a redundancy issue.
 
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longview said:
Contrary to what was stated in the article,

The review of data related to air pollution will still be conducted by an external review panel.
https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabpeople.nsf/webcommittees/CASAC
The EPA Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee.
Since there is documented evidence of reports from the CASAC,
https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabpro...SAC!OpenView&Start=1&Count=800&Collapse=38#38
going backs to 1979, it sounds like the other review board was a redundant.
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If I am reading this correctly, Trump may have overstepped his bounds. Two separate Boards were Congressionally mandated.

https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabproduct.nsf/WebSABSO/index?OpenDocument

The Science Advisory Board (SAB) Staff supports two independent congressionally mandated Federal Advisory Committees that provide scientific and technical advice to the EPA Administrator:

The Science Advisory Board (SAB) has a broad mandate to advise the Agency on scientific and technical matters. It provides peer review and other types of expert advice on a wide range of topics in science and technology.
The Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC) provides advice on the technical bases for EPA's national ambient air quality standards program.
 
Surface Detail said:
The explanation, presumably, is that the US has an administration whose concern with maintaining the profit margins of corporate entities (by allowing them to pollute at will) outweighs its concern for the health of its citizens. The bit I don't get is why people would vote for such an administration.
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If you understood people, you'd understand why.

Trump understands.
 
Steve Case said:
EPA Dissolves an Advisory Panel of Scientists with Expertise on a Dangerous Air Pollutant​

I want the Trump administration to kick the EPA in the slats
and tell them to do their jobs and quit messing around with
the Global Warming/Climate Change nonsense. Maybe this
particular panel was redundant or the Union of Concerned
Scientists has it wrong. Clean air, clean water, sufficient
green space & wild life habitats - we all want these things.

We also want toilets that flush, wash machines that clean
clothes, lawn mowers that cut grass and domestic industries
that provide jobs.

On edit, Cross post - I see Longview says it's a redundancy issue.
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This thread is about clean air, not wash machines and lawn mowers. I always hear nothing but complaint rhetoric from the Right. Do you acknowledge that many of our cities are frequently out of air quality compliance? Many cities are out of compliance for periods like 90 straight days. Look it up. Do you acknowledge that it is the job of Government to stay in compliance? Instead of complaining, tell me what you would do, to improve the situation.
 
Media_Truth said:
If I am reading this correctly, Trump may have overstepped his bounds. Two separate Boards were Congressionally mandated.

https://yosemite.epa.gov/sab/sabproduct.nsf/WebSABSO/index?OpenDocument

The Science Advisory Board (SAB) Staff supports two independent congressionally mandated Federal Advisory Committees that provide scientific and technical advice to the EPA Administrator:

The Science Advisory Board (SAB) has a broad mandate to advise the Agency on scientific and technical matters. It provides peer review and other types of expert advice on a wide range of topics in science and technology.
The Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC) provides advice on the technical bases for EPA's national ambient air quality standards program.
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You are entitled to your opinion.
 
Media_Truth said:
This thread is about clean air, not wash machines and lawn mowers. I always hear nothing but complaint rhetoric from the Right. Do you acknowledge that many of our cities are frequently out of air quality compliance? Many cities are out of compliance for periods like 90 straight days. Look it up. Do you acknowledge that it is the job of Government to stay in compliance? Instead of complaining, tell me what you would do, to improve the situation.
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I wrote:

"Clean air, clean water, sufficient
green space & wild life habitats -
we all want these things."​

Did you not read that part?
 
Media_Truth said:
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In October 2018, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) dissolved the Particulate Matter Review Panel, a group of 20 scientific experts that advised EPA leadership on particulate matter air pollution, a set of microscopic air pollutants that are especially harmful to human health. EPA officials provided no explanation as to why the review panel was being disbanded.

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You would think a bunch of concerned scientists would have the ability to find out why this review panel was disbanded. After all, I...a regular joe...was able to find out the reason very quickly.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/ac...-science-advisors-key-clean-air-act-committee
 
Steve Case said:
I wrote:

"Clean air, clean water, sufficient
green space & wild life habitats -
we all want these things."​

Did you not read that part?
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Yeah, I saw that. And like I asked - What would you do to bring US cities into compliance?
 
Surface Detail said:
The explanation, presumably, is that the US has an administration whose concern with maintaining the profit margins of corporate entities (by allowing them to pollute at will) outweighs its concern for the health of its citizens. The bit I don't get is why people would vote for such an administration.
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I would counter that with the fact that there is nothing effective they can do but whine.

But then liberals love to whine...
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Hmmmm...

When was that picture taken, before the advent of the EPA? So that is either pre 1970 ...or... maybe, just maybe the EPA isnt quite an effective counter to particulate matter air pollution?

Yano?
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Or maybe... without a skylight filter on the camera?

Film picks up things the human eye does not.
 
Data, data

Gaugingcatenate said:
Hmmmm...

When was that picture taken, before the advent of the EPA? So that is either pre 1970 ...or... maybe, just maybe the EPA isnt quite an effective counter to particulate matter air pollution?

Yano?
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Here ya go

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Los_Angeles_Pollution.jpg

The image appears to have been cropped, favoring the shot of downtown LA.

From Wiki (above):

"Description
English: Los Angeles and Griffith Observatory, as viewed from the Hollywood Hills. Taken as a 20 segment 2x10 panorama with a Canon 5D and 70-200mm f/2.8L lens.

…

Date 17 December 2005"
 
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