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Hurricane Michael

Re: Michael

longview said:
Hyperbole abounds, it is a bad hurricane on the Gulf Coast, it has happened in the past and will happen in the future.
The danger is in the media using phrases like "unprecedented", "historic", "never before in recorded history",
with every storm, because that is what makes people think the really bad one will not be bad enough to leave.
This will be a bad storm weather they hype it or not, what we need is for the media to be consistent about storm levels,
and not hype any tropical storm, like it was a real cat 4 or 5.
The Galveston City manager got a lot of people to leave by passing out sharpie pens with instructions,
that if you stay write your name, SSN and emergency contacts on you upper arm and upper leg,
one or the other were likely to remain attached well enough to identify your body!
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I dug into it a bit since reading/replying to your earlier post. It appears there are several caveats which are attached to the hyperbole. First on that list is Panhandle, but then they narrow it down by adding "Big Bend" area of Florida's panhandle.

So, yeah. What exactly are they meaning? Is it the biggest hurricane ever to hit Panama City? That's probably true. And, that is a big deal because a lot of people live there now. But, it does take away from the headline screaming, "Unprecedented!"
 
Re: Michael

It looks like the the worst part of Michael is past Apalachicola, FL
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/stationhome.html?id=8728690
The storm surge is starting to fall (faster than the tide is raising),
and the winds have shifted and slowed by 30 kts.
I hope where the eye came ashore it was not much worse.
 
Luckily people on the west coast don't have to deal with these type of things however the next big earthquake that hits, we are completely screwed. Big cities like Seattle San Francisco and LA would not be prepared to handle a major quake.
 
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Climate News
The High Cost Of Weather

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach I saw a few headlines today that got me to thinking. One said: THIRD-STRONGEST HURRICANE AT LANDFALL IN RECORDED U.S. HISTORY The second said: HURRICANE MICHAEL PROJECTED TO CAUSE $30 BILLION IN DAMAGES The third said: 155 MPH WINDS, 490,000 WITHOUT POWER, TWO DEAD Two dead? Two? I was reminded…

[FONT=&quot]Here’s what a lot of folks forget. Everything that the climate catastrophists are warning us about, droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, and all the rest, every one of those dangers are with us today. We’ve been doing battle with them for millennia. So there’s no need to wait for 2100 to do something about them. We can do something about them today.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And the very best thing we can do about them, the thing that will make the most difference in the shortest time, is to increase the amount of money and the amount of fossil fuels that are available to the poor.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Finally, if the economic history of the planet has taught us one thing, it is that the very best way to do those things, the most efficient and effective way to lift the poor out of poverty, is capitalism.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Money and fossil fuel. Keep’m coming …[/FONT]

 
Re: Michael

Jack Hays said:
[FONT=&]Climate News[/FONT]
The High Cost Of Weather

[FONT=&]Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach I saw a few headlines today that got me to thinking. One said: THIRD-STRONGEST HURRICANE AT LANDFALL IN RECORDED U.S. HISTORY The second said: HURRICANE MICHAEL PROJECTED TO CAUSE $30 BILLION IN DAMAGES The third said: 155 MPH WINDS, 490,000 WITHOUT POWER, TWO DEAD Two dead? Two? I was reminded…

[/FONT][FONT="]Here’s what a lot of folks forget. Everything that the climate catastrophists are warning us about, droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, and all the rest, [B][I]every one of those dangers [/I]are[I] with us today[/I].[/B] We’ve been doing battle with them for millennia. So there’s no need to wait for 2100 to do something about them. We can do something about them today.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]And the very best thing we can do about them, the thing that will make the most difference in the shortest time, is to increase the amount of money and the amount of fossil fuels that are available to the poor.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Finally, if the economic history of the planet has taught us one thing, it is that the very best way to do those things, the most efficient and effective way to lift the poor out of poverty, is capitalism.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]Money and fossil fuel. Keep’m coming …[/FONT]
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You're a sick individual.
 
Re: Michael

It is the season... For hurricanes.

Nothing abnormal here.
 
Re: Michael

Jack Hays said:
[FONT=&]Climate News[/FONT]
The High Cost Of Weather

[FONT=&]Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach I saw a few headlines today that got me to thinking. One said: THIRD-STRONGEST HURRICANE AT LANDFALL IN RECORDED U.S. HISTORY The second said: HURRICANE MICHAEL PROJECTED TO CAUSE $30 BILLION IN DAMAGES The third said: 155 MPH WINDS, 490,000 WITHOUT POWER, TWO DEAD Two dead? Two? I was reminded…

[/FONT][FONT="]Here’s what a lot of folks forget. Everything that the climate catastrophists are warning us about, droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, and all the rest, [B][I]every one of those dangers [/I]are[I] with us today[/I].[/B] We’ve been doing battle with them for millennia. So there’s no need to wait for 2100 to do something about them. We can do something about them today.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]And the very best thing we can do about them, the thing that will make the most difference in the shortest time, is to increase the amount of money and the amount of fossil fuels that are available to the poor.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Finally, if the economic history of the planet has taught us one thing, it is that the very best way to do those things, the most efficient and effective way to lift the poor out of poverty, is capitalism.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]Money and fossil fuel. Keep’m coming …[/FONT]
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[/FONT]
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Not much we can do. What the indoctrinated fail to realize, is every year, the costs of damage with a running average will increase. They will increase as property values, and population densities increase.

No way to get around such inconvenient truths.
 
Re: Michael

Jack Hays said:
[FONT=&]Climate News[/FONT]
The High Cost Of Weather

[FONT=&]Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach I saw a few headlines today that got me to thinking. One said: THIRD-STRONGEST HURRICANE AT LANDFALL IN RECORDED U.S. HISTORY The second said: HURRICANE MICHAEL PROJECTED TO CAUSE $30 BILLION IN DAMAGES The third said: 155 MPH WINDS, 490,000 WITHOUT POWER, TWO DEAD Two dead? Two? I was reminded…

[/FONT][FONT="]Here’s what a lot of folks forget. Everything that the climate catastrophists are warning us about, droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, and all the rest, [B][I]every one of those dangers [/I]are[I] with us today[/I].[/B] We’ve been doing battle with them for millennia. So there’s no need to wait for 2100 to do something about them. We can do something about them today.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]And the very best thing we can do about them, the thing that will make the most difference in the shortest time, is to increase the amount of money and the amount of fossil fuels that are available to the poor.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Finally, if the economic history of the planet has taught us one thing, it is that the very best way to do those things, the most efficient and effective way to lift the poor out of poverty, is capitalism.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]Money and fossil fuel. Keep’m coming …[/FONT]
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We were extremely lucky that the storm surge hit during low tide.
 
Re: Michael

calamity said:
We were extremely lucky that the storm surge hit during low tide.
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It helped a little, the tides there are only about 1 foot, the storm surge was likely
12 feet or more, one foot ether way will destroy most homes.


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Re: Michael

We lost power for about twenty hours. Back on since last night.
 
Re: Michael

longview said:
Hyperbole abounds, it is a bad hurricane on the Gulf Coast, it has happened in the past and will happen in the future.
The danger is in the media using phrases like "unprecedented", "historic", "never before in recorded history",
with every storm, because that is what makes people think the really bad one will not be bad enough to leave.
This will be a bad storm weather they hype it or not, what we need is for the media to be consistent about storm levels,
and not hype any tropical storm, like it was a real cat 4 or 5.
The Galveston City manager got a lot of people to leave by passing out sharpie pens with instructions,
that if you stay write your name, SSN and emergency contacts on you upper arm and upper leg,
one or the other were likely to remain attached well enough to identify your body!
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Greetings, Longview. :2wave:

O.M.G. !! :eek: :beam:
 
Rexedgar said:
What’s it going to take to get the news agencies to stop sending reporters into the “eye of the storm?”
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It's a matter of over inflated egos. Rather then letting the local affiliates get the national exposure, they cannot wait to put their silly network windbreakers on and show up for the cameras. One Weather Channel announcer made an ass of himself on live tv during Hurricane Florence. He threw in some acting. He attempted to make it look like he was having trouble standing up to buffeting winds. Unfortunately a couple locals casually walked past right behind him having no issues at all.
 
Re: Michael

Jack Hays said:
We lost power for about twenty hours. Back on since last night.
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My UPS doesn't last that long. I'm glad the outages when I have them are short.
 
Re: Michael

Lord of Planar said:
My UPS doesn't last that long. I'm glad the outages when I have them are short.
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Perhaps some day, the building codes in the hurricane prone areas will require a guardian type power generator in all new home construction.
 
Re: Michael

polgara said:
Greetings, Longview. :2wave:

O.M.G. !! :eek: :beam:
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Hello Polgara! They were trying to get as many people to leave as possible, it worked!
Bear in mind that I think that was one or two years after Katrina, and most just needed a little encouragement.
 
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The eye went through about 40 miles west of me as a cat 4. It was quite windy, but luckily I had no damage and power was restored after 24 hours. Whats ****ing annoying is people couldnt stop their partisan bickering on the various social media about local mayors and governors and climate change, which means we had to sort through pages and pages of bull**** to get actual information.

The nice part is all the private citizens and corporations racing to help after the storm had gone through.
 
Re: Michael

ObamacareFail said:
Perhaps some day, the building codes in the hurricane prone areas will require a guardian type power generator in all new home construction.
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As much as I hate solar subsidies, solar panels would have been helpful for individual houses, assuming they survived trees hitting them at 150 mph. A basic generator for under $500 is pretty much a necessity at this point if you live in Florida. I made do with batteries.
 
Re: Michael

jonny5 said:
The eye went through about 40 miles west of me as a cat 4. It was quite windy, but luckily I had no damage and power was restored after 24 hours. Whats ****ing annoying is people couldnt stop their partisan bickering on the various social media about local mayors and governors and climate change, which means we had to sort through pages and pages of bull**** to get actual information.

The nice part is all the private citizens and corporations racing to help after the storm had gone through.
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Glad you made it through safe, unless you have been through a Hurricane it is difficult for people to understand how intense these storms can be.
For some reason it is always really hot after the storm pass, and no electricity for AC, I added some window units to my kit before Ike, and
did not need them but loaned them and the generator out.
 
Re: Michael

longview said:
Glad you made it through safe, unless you have been through a Hurricane it is difficult for people to understand how intense these storms can be.
For some reason it is always really hot after the storm pass, and no electricity for AC, I added some window units to my kit before Ike, and
did not need them but loaned them and the generator out.
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We got lucky with weather as it cooled down the next day. But after Hermine, I bought a battery powered fan, so I was ok. And I think Ill get a small generator next year.
 
Bucky said:
Luckily people on the west coast don't have to deal with these type of things however the next big earthquake that hits, we are completely screwed. Big cities like Seattle San Francisco and LA would not be prepared to handle a major quake.
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Seattle has already had several major quakes. We've had tornadoes too. Every year there are torrential rains and mudslides.
 
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[h=1]Inconvenient data: No trend in Florida hurricane strikes[/h][FONT=&quot]Florida Major Hurricane Strikes: Still No Trend by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D. I’ve updated a plot of Florida major hurricane strikes since 1900 with Hurricane Michael, and the result is that there is still no trend in either intensity or frequency of strikes over the last 118 years: This is based upon National Hurricane…
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Re: Michael

jonny5 said:
As much as I hate solar subsidies, solar panels would have been helpful for individual houses, assuming they survived trees hitting them at 150 mph. A basic generator for under $500 is pretty much a necessity at this point if you live in Florida. I made do with batteries.
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I am in the state just west of you. Solar panels are good for keeping your power bill down, however the only reliable backup system is a generator.

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ObamacareFail said:
I am in the state just west of you. Solar panels are good for keeping your power bill down, however the only reliable backup system is a generator.

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Solar could be reliable if you could store it. The biggest problem is the cost.
 
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