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The Bubbling Lakes in the Arctic

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Another bit of evidence confirming the predictions is coming in green.

Across the Arctic, bubbling lakes are leaking carbon dioxide, methane and other dangerous greenhouse gases

Set against the austere peaks of the Western Brooks Range, the lake, about 20 football fields in size, looked like it was boiling. Its waters hissed, bubbled and popped as a powerful greenhouse gas escaped from the lake bed. Some bubbles grew as big as grapefruits, visibly lifting the water’s surface several inches and carrying up bits of mud from below.

This was methane.

... the methane venting from the lake seemed to be emerging not from the direct thawing of frozen Arctic soil, or permafrost, but rather from a reservoir of far older fossil fuels.

If that were happening all over the Arctic, Walter Anthony figured – if fossil fuels that had been buried for millennia were now being exposed to the atmosphere – the planet could be in even deeper peril.
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Ancient reservoirs of methane being released, we can now check off that box.
 
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[h=1]Surprise finding: Arctic Ocean methane does not reach the atmosphere[/h][FONT=&quot]From the CAGE – CENTER FOR ARCTIC GAS HYDRATE, CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT and the cancel the “methane time bomb” department comes this surprising finding: 250 methane flares release the climate gas methane from the seabed and into the Arctic Ocean. During the summer months this leads to an increased methane concentration in the ocean. But surprisingly,…
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May 27, 2016 in Arctic, Methane.
 
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[h=1]Another IPCC modeling failure – so THAT's where the atmospheric methane went[/h][FONT=&quot]From Oregon State University – Scientists discover carbonate rocks are unrecognized methane sink CORVALLIS, Ore. – Since the first undersea methane seep was discovered 30 years ago, scientists have meticulously analyzed and measured how microbes in the seafloor sediments consume the greenhouse gas methane as part of understanding how the Earth works. The sediment-based microbes…
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October 15, 2014 in IPCC, Methane.
 
Jack Hays said:
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[h=1]Surprise finding: Arctic Ocean methane does not reach the atmosphere[/h][FONT="][FONT=inherit]From the CAGE – CENTER FOR ARCTIC GAS HYDRATE, CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT and the cancel the “methane time bomb” department comes this surprising finding: 250 methane flares release the climate gas methane from the seabed and into the Arctic Ocean. During the summer months this leads to an increased methane concentration in the ocean. But surprisingly,…[/FONT]
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[URL="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/27/surprise-finding-arctic-ocean-methane-does-not-reach-the-atmosphere/"]May 27, 2016[/URL] in Arctic, Methane.
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Uh, you do understand what bubbling means. Amirite?
 
Jack Hays said:
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[h=1]Surprise finding: Arctic Ocean methane does not reach the atmosphere[/h][FONT=&quot]From the CAGE – CENTER FOR ARCTIC GAS HYDRATE, CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT and the cancel the “methane time bomb” department comes this surprising finding: 250 methane flares release the climate gas methane from the seabed and into the Arctic Ocean. During the summer months this leads to an increased methane concentration in the ocean. But surprisingly,…
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May 27, 2016 in Arctic, Methane.
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The OP is about Arctic tundra and lakes, not the Arctic Ocean :roll:

Presumably that was the nearest hit you could find on you knee-jerk trawl through your favourite source of science misinformation and propaganda.
 
ABOVE THE ARCTIC CIRCLE, ALASKA — Katey Walter Anthony has studied some 300 lakes across the tundras of the Arctic. But sitting on the mucky shore of her latest discovery, the Arctic expert said she’d never seen a lake like this one.
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So one lake on the edge of the permafrost is having a bubble of methane.

Yeah?

Do we even know it is not just a methane vent from a gas pocket underground?
 
Surface Detail said:
The OP is about Arctic tundra and lakes, not the Arctic Ocean :roll:

Presumably that was the nearest hit you could find on you knee-jerk trawl through your favourite source of science misinformation and propaganda.
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Actually, the best one was linked in #3.
 
Jack Hays said:
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[h=1]Surprise finding: Arctic Ocean methane does not reach the atmosphere[/h][FONT="][FONT=inherit]From the CAGE – CENTER FOR ARCTIC GAS HYDRATE, CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT and the cancel the “methane time bomb” department comes this surprising finding: 250 methane flares release the climate gas methane from the seabed and into the Arctic Ocean. During the summer months this leads to an increased methane concentration in the ocean. But surprisingly,…[/FONT]
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[URL="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/27/surprise-finding-arctic-ocean-methane-does-not-reach-the-atmosphere/"]May 27, 2016[/URL] in Arctic, Methane.
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This is a natural event. Has happened for centuries.
 
Surface Detail said:
The OP is about Arctic tundra and lakes, not the Arctic Ocean :roll:

Presumably that was the nearest hit you could find on you knee-jerk trawl through your favourite source of science misinformation and propaganda.
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So? It is a natural cycle.
 
Jack Hays said:
The amount is inconsequential.
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Yes, that attitude, when it comes to thinking, has indeed been the obvious shortcoming in most, if not all, of your AGW arguments. You are correct.
 
calamity said:
Yes, that attitude, when it comes to thinking, has indeed been the obvious shortcoming in most, if not all, of your AGW arguments. You are correct.
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How much methane do you think is required to cause a +2c warming?

Anything less is inconsequential for humanity or good for us.
 
calamity said:
:lamo
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When you have lost the argument but feel that as long as you have the last word you must have won just reply with a picture or if you don't even have that use and emoticon.

Works (for you) every time!
 
calamity said:
To play the Plumber for a minute. "How much 'no longer perma' permafrost must we have (to the nearest gram, please), before it's a problem?" :lol:

How much wood must a woodchuck chuck before there is no wood left for the woodchuck to chuck?
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No need for a stupidly precise figure.

If you can tell me what the problem would be for what loss of permafrost I will conceade.

If not then you don't have an argument.

I see nothing bad in not having any permafrost in the world directly. There may be bad consequences indirectly but I have no love for ground that supports very very little life.
 
Tim the plumber said:
No need for a stupidly precise figure.

If you can tell me what the problem would be for what loss of permafrost I will conceade.

If not then you don't have an argument.

I see nothing bad in not having any permafrost in the world directly. There may be bad consequences indirectly but I have no love for ground that supports very very little life.
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When it comes to taking your argument serious, it would help if you could spell concede.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Bubbles often get reabsorbed as they travel up.
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Did you read the article?

The researchers were working on a lake with an average depth of 3 feet. I doubt much methane is getting reabsorbed.

By the way, we're not dealing with natural cycles. Permafrost that is used to be stable, and is anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 years old, is now melting. Emissions of carbon and CH4 by permafrost is increasing. This is happening because temperatures are rising, and that's not because of any natural events.
 
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