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Microbes Turning Polar Ice Pink, Speeding Up Melt

Tim the plumber said:
10% of the world's ice cannot melt in 5 years if you had an extra sun adding full sunshine to the antarctic over the south pole 24 hours a day,

Simple sums are important.
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Show your math.
 
Tim the plumber said:
10% of the world's ice cannot melt in 5 years if you had an extra sun adding full sunshine to the antarctic over the south pole 24 hours a day,

Simple sums are important.
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Where did I write 10% will melt in 5 years?
 
Threegoofs said:
Unless you can tell me what the pKa is of clopidigrel at the p2y12 receptor and the serum concentration at steady state, with the percentage drop of serum concentration between doses, you can’t get treated adequately for a myocardial infarction.

Oh, wait.

The truth of the matter DOESNT depend on someone bothering to calculate it?
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You can spout medical chemustry. That does noy change the fact that you are incapable of basic maths. If you were some sort of medical scientist, or even a nurse, you would be able to do such basic sums.
 

Arctic sea ice melt has turned the corner for 2018

Greg Goodman writes in to WUWT tips and notes: Arctic sea ice minimum – this years ( 19/20th Sept at 4.594 million sq/km Source: Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Not surprising that MSM has gone mum about the remarkable persistence of their favorite “canary” not being dead yet. This year’s min is greater than 2007 when AR4 was getting major…
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Source: Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
Not surprising that MSM has gone schtum about the remarkable persistence of their favorite “canary” not being dead yet.
This year’s min is greater then 2007 when AR4 was getting major push in MSM and Al Gore was trying to BS us all with his climate disinformation.
2018.2017,2015 and 2011 are indistinguishable.
2018>2016>2007>>2012.
The alleged ‘death spiral’ and ‘runaway melting’ has been essentially not going anywhere for over a decade now. Why isn’t this great climate news being told to the world?

 
Jack Hays said:

Arctic sea ice melt has turned the corner for 2018

Greg Goodman writes in to WUWT tips and notes: Arctic sea ice minimum – this years ( 19/20th Sept at 4.594 million sq/km Source: Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Not surprising that MSM has gone mum about the remarkable persistence of their favorite “canary” not being dead yet. This year’s min is greater than 2007 when AR4 was getting major…
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Source: Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
Not surprising that MSM has gone schtum about the remarkable persistence of their favorite “canary” not being dead yet.
This year’s min is greater then 2007 when AR4 was getting major push in MSM and Al Gore was trying to BS us all with his climate disinformation.
2018.2017,2015 and 2011 are indistinguishable.
2018>2016>2007>>2012.
The alleged ‘death spiral’ and ‘runaway melting’ has been essentially not going anywhere for over a decade now. Why isn’t this great climate news being told to the world?
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Sixth lowest ice cover ever recorded.

The path for both temperatures and ice melt will not be continuously worse, year over year. That’s what happens in chaotic conditions like weather.

But no one with any brains (and that apparently excludes Watts and his pitiful ‘guest bloggers’) thinks the trend is magically reversing.

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Threegoofs said:
LOL.

Rapid decline of Arctic sea ice a combination of climate change and natural variability | UW News

http://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/2007GL029703

Arctic sea ice may be thinning faster than scientists initially predicted | UToday | University of Calgary
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You shouldn't have included the 2007 link. Coming as it does from the "ice-free-Arctic" prediction era, it only undermines the credibility of the others.

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[h=1]Analysis suggests Arctic sea ice is more stable than thought[/h][FONT=&quot]Yesterday, I pointed out that despite predictions of an “ice-free summer” in the Arctic by now, Arctic sea ice continues to defy such predictions and ended the 2018 melt season higher that the lowest years of 2012 and 2007: Ron Clutz writes and provides a graph that suggests the Arctic sea ice has reached a…
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[h=1]Another Dis-alarming Analysis of Arctic Sea Ice[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest post by David Middleton Anthony recently posted an excellent Arctic sea ice analysis by Ron Clutz. In a similar vein, I decided to look at Arctic sea ice from a couple of other dis-alarming perspectives. We keep hearing about the Arctic being ice-free anytime from next month up until a continuously rolling forward decade…
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Jack Hays said:
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I think it's safe to say that someday, the arctic will be free of ice. Afterall, the sun does get hotter and hotter eon after eon.
 
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[h=1]Study: dust guided by meandering jet stream has big impact on Arctic melt[/h][FONT=&quot]Polar jet circulation changes bring Sahara dust to Arctic, increasing temperatures, melting ice Summary points A new atmospheric mechanism by which dust travels from the Sahara Desert across the eastern side of the North Atlantic Ocean towards the Arctic has been discovered The dust emission was generated by a Saharan cyclone that was triggered by…
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I still haven't found a study as too how many millimeters of dust displace ocean water yet each year.

Anyone care to look?
 
Jack Hays said:
West Antarctica and the Peninsula are where the volcanoes are concentrated. You have made my point. Thank you.
There's nothing "seasonal" about "warming over all of West Antarctic (sic) in the annual mean."
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The mean annual temperature is taking the mean average of the coldest month of the year and averaging it with the mean average of the hottest month of the year.

Do volcanoes have mean annual temperatures, Jack?

"....warming over all of West Antarctic in the annual mean, driven by significant warming over most of the region in winter and spring. Summer and fall trends, are insignificant except over the Antarctic Peninsula where they are widespread only in fall. These finding are in good agreement with the 2009 study in Nature, though in general the new results show greater warming in West Antarctica and less warming over East Antarctica as a whole....."​

The research shows that the warming trends in W. Antarctica and the Peninsula are seasonal. So unless you can show that volcanoes erupt seasonally...then I think it safe to conclude that volcanoes are not the cause for the warming trend in W. Antarctica...but the rising air and sea water temperatures in winter and spring most likely are.
 
Moot said:
The mean annual temperature is taking the mean average of the coldest month of the year and averaging it with the mean average of the hottest month of the year.

Do volcanoes have mean annual temperatures, Jack?

"....warming over all of West Antarctic in the annual mean, driven by significant warming over most of the region in winter and spring. Summer and fall trends, are insignificant except over the Antarctic Peninsula where they are widespread only in fall. These finding are in good agreement with the 2009 study in Nature, though in general the new results show greater warming in West Antarctica and less warming over East Antarctica as a whole....."​

The research shows that the warming trends in W. Antarctica and the Peninsula are seasonal. So unless you can show that volcanoes erupt seasonally...then I think it safe to conclude that volcanoes are not the cause for the warming trend in W. Antarctica...but the rising air and sea water temperatures in winter and spring most likely are.
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I think the monthly mean is the monthly High-Low average, the annual mean is the average of the monthly means, at least this is what the GISS looks like.
 
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