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Eschatology and Global Warming

dave8383 said:
Gonna stick with that line huh? Take another look.
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Take a look at what, an un cited weather graphic?
What was the date of the image, were those actual temperatures or feels like temperatures, ect?
I look at Bakersfield, CA, which on your graphic shows 112 (some scale we have to assume F),
compared to actual data, from weather underground.
Bakersfield, CA Weather History | Weather Underground
July 2020, max temp, 107F.
Bakersfield, CA Weather History | Weather Underground
August 2020, max temp 107F
Bakersfield, CA Weather History | Weather Underground
August 2000 max temp 107F
Minor little things like this, make me ask about the graphic?
Can you cite it's date?
 
longview said:
So 9/6/2020, the issue is when we actually look at Bakersfield, Ca for 9/6/2020
Bakersfield, CA Weather History | Weather Underground
We see the recorded high was 104F, whereas your graphic showed Bakersfield at 112F.
I suspect your graphic is the heat index, not the actual temperature.
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Jesus christ:

At 121 degrees, Woodland Hills hits all-time high temperature for L.A. County
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L.A. area had record heat Saturday. Here'''s the Sunday forecast - Los Angeles Times


These are actual temperatures.


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RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
0212 AM PDT TUE SEP 08 2020

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES RECORDED YESTERDAY ACROSS SOUTHWEST
CALIFORNIA...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 109 DEGREES WAS SET AT LANCASTER FOX
FIELD CA YESTERDAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 109 SET IN 1955.

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 109 DEGREES WAS SET AT PALMDALE AIRPORT
CA YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 107 SET IN 1955.

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 112 DEGREES WAS SET AT PASO ROBLES
AIRPORT CA YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 108 SET IN 1957.
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NWS Product View
 
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dave8383 said:
Jesus christ:



L.A. area had record heat Saturday. Here'''s the Sunday forecast - Los Angeles Times


These are actual temperatures.




NWS Product View
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I have no doubt that is was hot, but weather is very different than global warming.
Please consider that the warming from AGW has warmed the earth about 1C since 1900, ( 1.8F),
so if a weather event increases the air temperature for a few minuets to a new peak 5 F above normal,
it is unlikely to be all caused by AGW.
Urban heat island effect is much more likely.
 
longview said:
I have no doubt that is was hot, but weather is very different than global warming.
Please consider that the warming from AGW has warmed the earth about 1C since 1900, ( 1.8F),
so if a weather event increases the air temperature for a few minuets to a new peak 5 F above normal,
it is unlikely to be all caused by AGW.
Urban heat island effect is much more likely.
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Well, you're polite I'll give you that. However, I'm afraid we're into it and this isn't representative of some rare urban weather island.
 
dave8383 said:
Well, you're polite I'll give you that. However, I'm afraid we're into it and this isn't representative of some rare urban weather island.
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How so, were the spike from AGW, why would the temperature decreased?
The physics behind AGW continued to be true, the planet continued to emit the 15 um photons, like always.
No, it is just weather! The right combination of high pressure, wind direction, ect.
Back to your graphic, which showed Bakersfield at 112F on 9/6, while Weather underground showed the high was 104F,
Weather underground shows that Burbank indeed hit 114F on 9/6, so why the difference in the graphic.
I still suspect that your non cited graphic was showing heat index and not temperature!
 
Insightful.

Cultural motivations for wind and solar renewables deployment
Posted on November 19, 2020 by curryja | 265 comments
by Andy West
“For me the question now is, now that we know that renewables can’t save the planet, are we going to keep letting them destroy it?”. – Michael Schellenberger Continue reading →

". . . Shellenberger rightly identifies the overall motivation as cultural. He uses the term ‘religion’, as indeed do many others, simply because this is the most familiar example of a bounded cultural entity that people tend to have. Regarding a ‘climate catastrophe’ generally, the social data completely agrees with him, as shown in Chart 1 (and more fully elsewhere, see the Summary File below). And as demonstrated above, this is exactly the case too for the specific motivation behind Renewables deployment.

However, I believe Shellenberger has one thing wrong. Catastrophic climate culture is so pervasive exactly because it does satisfy deep psychological needs, which needs stem from signaling in-group identification via emotive, and preferentially existential, narratives. These in turn activate deep mental mechanisms which bypass our rationality, be that the advice of Planning Engineer or any other mere reason, via whatever expertise, experience or analysis. Anyone or any group that contradicts or even questions in-group narratives, is automatically out-group, and so passionately resisted."
 
Scientific misconduct in support of the climate cause.


I got to ruminating again; a third WUWT retrospective post
By Rud Istvan My first recent ‘ruminative’ post was about basic climate science misconceptions. My second was about their resulting failed basic climate predictions over now 4 decades (e.g. Viner 2000–children will soon not know snow!). This third ruminative post (celebrating roughly my 10th WUWT anniversary post here) introspects climate ‘science’ misconduct in the dubious…
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If the World Is Ending, It's Not Because of Climate Change

Glenn Stanton, Quillette

How is the world going to end? Polls consistently show that most believe the cause will be environmental. “Climate anxiety” has reached such a fevered pitch among young people across the globe that the Lancet recently issued a special “call to action” to help with the problem. Clinicians have even created “climate anxiety scales” to measure the runaway angst spreading through our children, and the rest of us.

But what if the best, emerging science is actually telling us quite firmly that such fears are not only deeply misplaced, but that the most realistic cause of our collective human demise is likely the precise opposite of what most assume? This is the conclusion of a very interesting body of highly sophisticated and inter-disciplinary research. The greatest threat to humanity’s future is certainly not too many people consuming too many limited natural resources, but rather too few people giving birth to the new humans who will continue the creative work of making the world a better, more hospitable place through technological innovation. Data released this summer indicates the beginning of the end of humanity can be glimpsed from where we now stand. That end is a dramatic population bust that will nosedive toward an empty planet. New research places the beginning of that turn at about 30 years from today.

This means that Thomas Robert Malthus, and his many influential disciples, had it precisely wrong. More people are not only not the problem, but a growing population is the very answer to a more humane future in which more people are living better, healthier, longer lives than they ever have in our race’s tumultuously dynamic history. . . .
 
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