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The Big Melt

I am no scientist and I am not going to argue using someone else's words or thoughts but just using common sense would have to tell you that much of what is happening is due to human activity.

Never before in the history of humankind have there been so many man-made pollutants in the air. In addition, never before has there been so many humans on this planet and if there is one thing we have learned is that pollutants harm the human body so it makes no sense that they wouldn't hurt the air and weather as well.

Last but not least, it has been proven without a shadow of a doubt that our planet has an ozone hole that sits over the Antarctic and that is caused by chlorofluorocarbons that come from refrigeration and propellant devices and processes, which is definitely something man made, meaning that if it can be proven than something that man has made has caused problems, why not causing Global Warming.

Your contention and that of the man you are quoting is saying that "nothing is caused by human activity" and the Ozone layer totally contradicts that statement totally.

https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/hole.html

Apparently your sarcasm detector was turned off.
 
Sarcasm Detector?

Are you saying that your post was all sarcasm?

The post is serious. The link's title is sarcastic. The final sentence: "So again, nothing unusual is happening, and there is nothing to explain. But there is now a whole industry within climate science trying to show that this nothing is caused by human activity."
 
The post is serious. The link's title is sarcastic. The final sentence: "So again, nothing unusual is happening, and there is nothing to explain. But there is now a whole industry within climate science trying to show that this nothing is caused by human activity."

You certainly fooled me. I did not see your post as sarcasm but as a post defending those that say that Global Warming is a hoax. Perhaps, you could have made it more clear. I consider myself an intelligent person and it did not look like sarcasm to me.
 
Melting ice that's floating does not change the water level at all, either in the ocean or in a glass of water.

Here's an educational tutorial about Sea Level Rise put out the NOAA, NASA, and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. You could probably learn a lot.

[video]https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/sea-level-rise/sea-level-rise-intro-outro-captioned.webm[/video]
 
Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
Melting ice that's floating does not change the water level at all, either in the ocean or in a glass of water.

Here's an educational tutorial about Sea Level Rise put out the NOAA, NASA, and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. You could probably learn a lot.

[video]https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/sea-level-rise/sea-level-rise-intro-outro-captioned.webm[/video]

Melting ice that is floating cannot change the sea level.

Very basic physics.
 
3,000m x the coeficient of linear expansion of water for 1c. At what temperature are you taking the water colum?

The 1.2 F stated in post 412. It's a rough estimate as the waters vary in temperature by depth, and 1.2 F (2/3 C) causes a different density change depending on starting temperature.

Looking it up, the average ocean depth is 3.7 km, which would make my number larger. Was I off?
 
Melting ice that is floating cannot change the sea level.

Very basic physics.
If a mountain of ice falls into the sea, will it change the level? Try this - fill a bucket with water, to the brim. Add about 20 ice cubes. Did your bucket overflow?
 
If a mountain of ice falls into the sea, will it change the level? Try this - fill a bucket with water, to the brim. Add about 20 ice cubes. Did your bucket overflow?

Do you think that ice is already floating?

OK...
 
Do you think that ice is already floating?

OK...

This entire discussion was in relation to glaciers melting and land splitting into the ocean. The sea level rise occurs immediately after these events, not once the ice is floating.
 
Here's an educational tutorial about Sea Level Rise put out the NOAA, NASA, and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. You could probably learn a lot.

[video]https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/sea-level-rise/sea-level-rise-intro-outro-captioned.webm[/video]

You can perform the experiment yourself. Get a glass of water and put a couple of ice cubes in it. Measure the water level. Wait the ice to melt. Measure the water level.

NOAA, NASA, and JPL are government agencies with government agendas.
 
If a mountain of ice falls into the sea, will it change the level? Try this - fill a bucket with water, to the brim. Add about 20 ice cubes. Did your bucket overflow?

You were talking about floating ice. Try to maintain context.

Since you now want to talk about landed ice, you will find that as soon as melts enough to float, it will no longer contribute to sea level rise. ALL of the snow and ice in Antarctica (and in the Arctic) came from the ocean.
 
This entire discussion was in relation to glaciers melting and land splitting into the ocean. The sea level rise occurs immediately after these events, not once the ice is floating.

Actually, it wasn't. You were specifically talking about floating ice. You keep changing context.

The glaciers in Antarctica are not melting. Land is not splitting into the ocean. It is not possible to measure global sea level. You have no reference point.
 
Actually, it wasn't. You were specifically talking about floating ice. You keep changing context.

The glaciers in Antarctica are not melting. Land is not splitting into the ocean. It is not possible to measure global sea level. You have no reference point.

I didn't realize that I was speaking to a PhD in multiple scientific fields.
 

A new blog.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientific-papers-global-warming-myth/

FALSE!!!!

...Breitbart News ran an article titled “‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth, Say 58 Scientific Papers in 2017”. This article, which is in essence merely a link to a post from a blog that goes by the name “No Tricks Zone” and some added musings on “grant-troughing scientists,” “huxter politicians,” “scaremongering green activists,” and “brainwashed mainstream media environmental correspondents,” claims that this ragtag collection of studies proves that the long-standing scientific consensus on climate change is nothing but a myth.
 
A new blog.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientific-papers-global-warming-myth/

FALSE!!!!

...Breitbart News ran an article titled “‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth, Say 58 Scientific Papers in 2017”. This article, which is in essence merely a link to a post from a blog that goes by the name “No Tricks Zone” and some added musings on “grant-troughing scientists,” “huxter politicians,” “scaremongering green activists,” and “brainwashed mainstream media environmental correspondents,” claims that this ragtag collection of studies proves that the long-standing scientific consensus on climate change is nothing but a myth.

Your link has nothing to do with mine.
 
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