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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Insectageddon: farming is more catastrophic than climate breakdown | The Guardian

    A study published this week in the journal Plos One reveals that flying insects surveyed on nature reserves in Germany have declined by 76% in 27 years. The most likely cause of this Insectageddon is that the land surrounding those reserves has become hostile to them: the volume of pesticides and the destruction of habitat have turned farmland into a wildlife desert.

    It is remarkable that we need to rely on a study in Germany to see what is likely to have been happening worldwide: long-term surveys of this kind simply do not exist elsewhere. This failure reflects distorted priorities in the funding of science. There is no end of grants for research on how to kill insects, but hardly any money for discovering what the impacts of this killing might be. Instead, the work has been left – as in the German case – to recordings by amateur naturalists.

    But anyone of my generation (ie in the second bloom of youth) can see and feel the change. We remember the “moth snowstorm” that filled the headlight beams of our parents’ cars on summer nights (memorialised in Michael McCarthy’s lovely book of that name). Every year I collected dozens of species of caterpillars and watched them grow and pupate and hatch. This year I tried to find some caterpillars for my children to raise. I spent the whole summer looking and, aside from the cabbage whites on our broccoli plants, found nothing in the wild but one garden tiger larva. Yes, one caterpillar in one year. I could scarcely believe what I was seeing – or rather, not seeing.

    It's not just insects, of course.

    Wildlife in decline: Earth's vertebrates fall 58% in past four decades | Nature


    Source: Living Planet Report 2016

    The main threat facing declining populations is habitat loss — caused by logging, agriculture and the disruption of freshwater systems such as rivers. Freshwater populations, which declined by 81%, are increasingly thought to be faring worse than those living in terrestrial regions.

    “An average decline in population abundance exceeding 80% is, frankly, terrifying,” says Mike Hoffmann, senior scientist to the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s Species Survival Commission in Cambridge, UK. “This is arguably the most damning evidence yet of the damage we are wreaking on our freshwater environments.”

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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    “If the bee disappeared off the face of the Earth, man would only have four years left to live.”
    Albert Einstein...(maybe he said it)
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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Here in Williamsburg we have no shortage of insects, flying or earthbound. Of course, the area is largely reclaimed swamp.
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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    I'm surprised this thread hasn't received more attention. Especially after I posted an article suggesting that indiscriminate pesticide use and expansion of agricultural lands are a more serious issue than climate change, citing clearly worrying consequences already observed - and from The Guardian no less!

    Someone who didn't know any better would surely have expected contrarians to come pouring in from miles around, leaping on an opportunity to point and laugh at those alarmists fixating on mere climate change.

    But it seems there's a little secret here. Well, not all that secret, really. The observed declines in wild animal populations, insect and vertebrate alike, share in common with climate change the fatal flaw that "the market will fix it" is an obviously absurd response. Of course it's a lot harder to try casting doubt on already-observed and disturbing consequences obviously traceable to human actions than on nebulous atmospheric changes whose consequences are only beginning to become clear: So instead of denial and 'scepticism,' what we (mostly) get in this case is simple silence and anecdotal reports that maybe it ain't all that bad.

    No calls for more research into the consequences and stronger regulation on the use of pesticides, of course.
    No expressions of concern about depletion of global fisheries and demand for more no-catch zones.
    No acknowledgement of the inefficiencies of meat (especially beef) production, along with growing food for cars as an expedient cop-out 'response' to global warming, and consequent habitat destructions as these inefficiencies expand throughout the world.

    I'd be the first to admit my own fondness for meat and concerns over how I am contributing, but the apparent reluctance to even discuss these issues is telling - the silence is deafening.

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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrae View Post
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't received more attention. Especially after I posted an article suggesting that indiscriminate pesticide use and expansion of agricultural lands are a more serious issue than climate change, citing clearly worrying consequences already observed - and from The Guardian no less!

    Someone who didn't know any better would surely have expected contrarians to come pouring in from miles around, leaping on an opportunity to point and laugh at those alarmists fixating on mere climate change.

    But it seems there's a little secret here. Well, not all that secret, really. The observed declines in wild animal populations, insect and vertebrate alike, share in common with climate change the fatal flaw that "the market will fix it" is an obviously absurd response. Of course it's a lot harder to try casting doubt on already-observed and disturbing consequences obviously traceable to human actions than on nebulous atmospheric changes whose consequences are only beginning to become clear: So instead of denial and 'scepticism,' what we (mostly) get in this case is simple silence and anecdotal reports that maybe it ain't all that bad.

    No calls for more research into the consequences and stronger regulation on the use of pesticides, of course.
    No expressions of concern about depletion of global fisheries and demand for more no-catch zones.
    No acknowledgement of the inefficiencies of meat (especially beef) production, along with growing food for cars as an expedient cop-out 'response' to global warming, and consequent habitat destructions as these inefficiencies expand throughout the world.

    I'd be the first to admit my own fondness for meat and concerns over how I am contributing, but the apparent reluctance to even discuss these issues is telling - the silence is deafening.
    I have answered the question posed in #1.
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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    So I have known about the bee problem for years but apparently all or almost all bugs are in a great die off. The geniuses are still looking into the matter but we are supposed to be concerned. We had a dry spring mostly except for a two week span which I am sure makes a difference, but I have seen seen very few flying insects so far this summer almost no bees and I notice that the fruit trees in my hood are very light on fruit this year and I am pretty sure that there was no late freeze problem.

    What do things look like where you are re flying insects, and if it is not listed in your profile please tell us where you are.

    tyvm
    I think my cat is eating all of them.

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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrae View Post
    I'm surprised this thread hasn't received more attention. Especially after I posted an article suggesting that indiscriminate pesticide use and expansion of agricultural lands are a more serious issue than climate change, citing clearly worrying consequences already observed - and from The Guardian no less!

    Someone who didn't know any better would surely have expected contrarians to come pouring in from miles around, leaping on an opportunity to point and laugh at those alarmists fixating on mere climate change.

    But it seems there's a little secret here. Well, not all that secret, really. The observed declines in wild animal populations, insect and vertebrate alike, share in common with climate change the fatal flaw that "the market will fix it" is an obviously absurd response. Of course it's a lot harder to try casting doubt on already-observed and disturbing consequences obviously traceable to human actions than on nebulous atmospheric changes whose consequences are only beginning to become clear: So instead of denial and 'scepticism,' what we (mostly) get in this case is simple silence and anecdotal reports that maybe it ain't all that bad.

    No calls for more research into the consequences and stronger regulation on the use of pesticides, of course.
    No expressions of concern about depletion of global fisheries and demand for more no-catch zones.
    No acknowledgement of the inefficiencies of meat (especially beef) production, along with growing food for cars as an expedient cop-out 'response' to global warming, and consequent habitat destructions as these inefficiencies expand throughout the world.

    I'd be the first to admit my own fondness for meat and concerns over how I am contributing, but the apparent reluctance to even discuss these issues is telling - the silence is deafening.
    So far no one has mentioned the words, "Round Up."
    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants. " --Chuckles the Clown.

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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    So far no one has mentioned the words, "Round Up."
    Just used some yesterday.
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    Re: Where did all the flying bugs go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Just used some yesterday.
    Do NOT drink it.
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