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All of N.J. suffers from dirty air, report says

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Not just Jersey City and Newark: All of N.J. suffers from dirty air, report says

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7/13/18
It doesn't matter where you are in New Jersey: There's a good chance you are breathing dirty air. That's according to a new report released by Environment New Jersey on Thursday. The report found that nearly every metropolitan area in the state experienced an average of about 91 days with degraded air quality in 2016. That means elevated levels of particle pollution, like soot, and smog. According to the report, poor air quality is linked to public health issues, particularly respiratory problems. The report describes smog pollution as causing "sunburn on the inside of the lungs." The dirtiest air in the report was found in the Lehigh Valley. The Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton metropolitan area, which includes parts of Sussex and Warren Counties, registered 133 days in 2016 with elevated levels of particle or ozone pollution. The Atlantic City-Hammonton metropolitan area scored the cleanest record, with 50 days of elevated pollution levels in 2016.

About 800,000 New Jerseyans with asthma are put at risk on days with elevated air pollution, according to O'Malley. Elderly people and children are are impacted more heavily by air pollution. "The reality is there's no safe level of air pollution," O'Malley said. "We see direct health links between elevated levels of air pollution and premature deaths." The main source of air pollution in New Jersey is emissions from cars. On hot days, car emissions can undergo a chemical reaction that produces hazardous, low-lying ozone. Besides cars, fossil-fuel-burning power plants are also major contributors to Garden State emissions.
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Pro Tip: Don't hold your dirty breath waiting for the federal EPA to help. On the contrary, the Andrew Wheeler EPA will do everything in its power to make your Jersey air even more polluted and dirtier.
 
Yep, rather than tackle the actual rpoblems facing us with harmful pollution we must all panic about the none problem of CO2.
 
RetiredUSN said:
It was dirty under Obama and it will be dirty under the next 3-4 presidents.


Nice work!
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Depends on if those Presidents install corrupt Corporate shills who aim to spend ridiculous money while gutting the EPA, like Trump did.
 
N'jerksky is the arm pit of the northeast US .............. they even allow beached whales to inhabit 'closed' beotches .............
 
I thought they were orange from tanning spray.
 
OH NO! But the EPA has been around for what, 40+ years? NJ is full of lefters at every level of government! Maybe if the EPA had a bigger budget they could do their damn job!

(By the way, it's NORTH JERSEY, which is basically a ****hole...other than the west.
 
New Jersey has been battling air pollution since the early 1950's. If they haven't been able to clean up their *** in 60 years, why do you expect the present administration to do it for them now?!?
 
Actually, the air in NJ and in NY IS cleaner, it's just that it's still not what a lot of experts would term "so clean that it is healthful".
In other words, in the 1950's, 60's and 70's it was much much MUCH dirtier.
Same issue with the smog in Los Angeles. In the old days it was so bad that it was downright hazardous.
It is still not peachy-keen wunnerful, it is much cleaner now, but L.A. air is still fairly dirty.

Anybody who grew up in NY-NJ in those days will tell you that the difference is noticeable, just like anyone old enough will explain the difference in L.A. air quality now compared to then. So don't sit there and make snide remarks about the EPA because it means that you probably never set foot either in NY-NJ or L.A.
Anyone who knows what I'm talking about will tell you that the EPA did a damn good job cleaning up the air quality in this country.

Oh and, by the way, New York City WATER has improved tremendously, too. L.A. water is still extremely "hard" but it's getting a little better.
Again, tip of the hat to the EPA...you're welcome.

We have worse water issues to deal with out here, but we're working on them.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Not just Jersey City and Newark: All of N.J. suffers from dirty air, report says

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Pro Tip: Don't hold your dirty breath waiting for the federal EPA to help. On the contrary, the Andrew Wheeler EPA will do everything in its power to make your Jersey air even more polluted and dirtier.
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Pro Tip #2: Being a blue bastion of states rights (to restrict guns?) and higher taxes, perhaps reducing NJ auto pollution without federal aid or mandates would save a few more lives. Rumor has it that CA has done so.

https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/nj_ends_auto_inspections_limit.html
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Anybody who grew up in NY-NJ in those days will tell you that the difference is noticeable, just like anyone old enough will explain the difference in L.A. air quality now compared to then. So don't sit there and make snide remarks about the EPA because it means that you probably never set foot either in NY-NJ or L.A.
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US air/water quality overall was indeed getting much better. It's certainly better where I currently live.

But then again, the EPA of past presidents actually did take PROTECTING and IMPROVING the US environment seriously. Those EPA managers have now been purged.

As Oklahoma AG, former Trump EPA boss Scott Pruitt was opposed to environmental regulations as a self-described "leading advocate against the EPA's activist agenda."

Pruitt sued the EPA numerous times on behalf of gas and oil companies in his state. New Trump EPA boss Andrew Wheeler has been a lifelong lobbyist for Murray Energy, the largest coal company in the US.

To borrow an old axiom, the energy-industry foxes are now in charge of the environmental hen house.
 
Rogue Valley said:
US air/water quality overall was indeed getting much better. It's certainly better where I currently live.

But then again, the EPA of past presidents actually did take PROTECTING and IMPROVING the US environment seriously. Those EPA managers have now been purged.

As Oklahoma AG, former Trump EPA boss Scott Pruitt was opposed to environmental regulations as a self-described "leading advocate against the EPA's activist agenda."

Pruitt sued the EPA numerous times on behalf of gas and oil companies in his state. New Trump EPA boss Andrew Wheeler has been a lifelong lobbyist for Murray Energy, the largest coal company in the US.

To borrow an old axiom, the energy-industry foxes are now in charge of the environmental hen house.
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What exact regulations are changed that will be endangering people?
 
RetiredUSN said:
What exact regulations are changed that will be endangering people?
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To start with, Pruitt launched an all out campaign designed to force California EPA to suspend motor vehicle air quality regs in this state and bring them into line with other "49-state" criteria. This is not sustainable in Southern California especially, given the unique geographical layout of the Los Angeles Basin and the way that it traps smog, and given the weather patterns in the region which are prone to inversions that exacerbate the issue even more.

And then there are the recent dissolution of waterway regulations which prohibited coal companies from dumping coal waste.

But by all means carry on as if you were not aware of these, and they are just two of thousands of deregulatory measures launched by the Pruitt EPA. Just pretend you didn't know, but it would really be more honest if you just said straight out that you do not want to know.

In Norfolk, you're insulated from most of the consequences, so it's very easy to pretend nothing wrong is happening ;)
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
And most of NJ suffers from dirty water too which I hate more than the dirty air.
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Boston's water is so dirty that they made a song to celebrate it!

 
RetiredUSN said:
It was dirty under Obama and it will be dirty under the next 3-4 presidents.
Nice work!
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It dirty long before that, as a teen when we traveled from NY across the Jersey line we always could tell we crossed it without seeing a sign. Not trying to be mean here but, as soon as crossed into Jersey it smelled as if there were a garbage dump nearby. The only place that made it seem better was Pitt, the dirt fell out of the air back then, if your car was clean when you entered it was black when you left.

The last time I was through both those places was about 10 years ago and I was pleased to see they were both clean now, so when they say it is dirty now I have to ask - compared to what?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
To start with, Pruitt launched an all out campaign designed to force California EPA to suspend motor vehicle air quality regs in this state and bring them into line with other "49-state" criteria. This is not sustainable in Southern California especially, given the unique geographical layout of the Los Angeles Basin and the way that it traps smog, and given the weather patterns in the region which are prone to inversions that exacerbate the issue even more.

And then there are the recent dissolution of waterway regulations which prohibited coal companies from dumping coal waste.

But by all means carry on as if you were not aware of these, and they are just two of thousands of deregulatory measures launched by the Pruitt EPA. Just pretend you didn't know, but it would really be more honest if you just said straight out that you do not want to know.

In Norfolk, you're insulated from most of the consequences, so it's very easy to pretend nothing wrong is happening ;)
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BS!

Norfolk and the rest of Hampton Roads is built on the water and there isn't a neighborhood within 50 miles that isn't a watershed area.

Nothing in the regulations has changed other than the EPA not coming in with swat teams attacking farmers.


And by the way...… Hampton Roads is used for coal waste. I play a golf course built over it.
 
RetiredUSN said:
BS!

Norfolk and the rest of Hampton Roads is built on the water and there isn't a neighborhood within 50 miles that isn't a watershed area.

Nothing in the regulations has changed other than the EPA not coming in with swat teams attacking farmers.


And by the way...… Hampton Roads is used for coal waste. I play a golf course built over it.
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No you're full of BS:

Trump overturns bill on coal mining debris | Fox News

And don't change the subject, you asked about specific changes to regulations which would endanger people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/03/01/epa-moves-to-overhaul-obama-era-safeguards-on-coal-ash-waste

And while you might be playing golf on a coal waste landfill, you don't LIVE on the site, do you?
 
Sabre said:
It dirty long before that, as a teen when we traveled from NY across the Jersey line we always could tell we crossed it without seeing a sign. Not trying to be mean here but, as soon as crossed into Jersey it smelled as if there were a garbage dump nearby. The only place that made it seem better was Pitt, the dirt fell out of the air back then, if your car was clean when you entered it was black when you left.

The last time I was through both those places was about 10 years ago and I was pleased to see they were both clean now, so when they say it is dirty now I have to ask - compared to what?
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Exactly, compared to what.
My brothers and I used to go to the roof of my grandmother's apartment building which overlooked the Hudson River back in the 1960's.
You could barely see the 200 yards to the river and if you could, visible garbage dumping was often what you'd see, everything from old tires to entire rusting car bodies, and loose trash. A thick brown haze would cover the cityscape, and the running joke was "Times Square, fart air".
As kids we thought that was hilarious but it was also morbid.

That scenario doesn't exist today.

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Elizabeth, New Jersey used to be so bad that, like Sabre, I have memories of the town announcing itself with the acrid fumes entering the car.
Everyone would groan and hold their noses and remark about what it must be like to live there.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
No you're full of BS:

Trump overturns bill on coal mining debris | Fox News

And don't change the subject, you asked about specific changes to regulations which would endanger people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/03/01/epa-moves-to-overhaul-obama-era-safeguards-on-coal-ash-waste

And while you might be playing golf on a coal waste landfill, you don't LIVE on the site, do you?
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Obama dumped coal by products!

So freaking tell me what has changed...…..or are you going to continue with your SJW hissy fit?
 
Can't say that clean air was ever something I associated with New Jersey anyway.
 
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