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Chinese CFC Scandal?

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It seems the Chinese may have been secretly using CFC's on a large scale and exacerbating the ozone hole. Oops.


Chinese Building Insulation Manufacturers Blamed for Massive “Super Global Warming” CFC Release

Guest essay by Eric Worrall Investigators have accused “Climate leader” China of venting vast quantities of CFCs in the production of foam building insulation. Ozone hole damage revealed to be caused by secret production of Chinese home insulation The production is ‘an environmental crime on a massive scale’, according to investigators Andrew Griffin Chris Baynes…
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Ozone hole damage revealed to be caused by secret production of Chinese home insulation
The production is ‘an environmental crime on a massive scale’, according to investigators
Andrew Griffin
Chris Baynes
Monday 9 July 2018 12:15
Scientists have finally found the source of an ozone-depleting chemical that threatens to destroy the environment, according to investigators.
The mysterious, ozone-depleting chemical is being illegally produced by Chinese manufacturers and is leading to a surge in emissions of the destructive gas, according to the Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA).
At least 18 companies have been using CFC-11, which was banned worldwide in 2010, to make foam insulation, according to the EIA. It said the discovery amounted to “an environmental crime on a massive scale”.
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“If China doesn’t stop this illegal production, it will imperil our slowly healing ozone layer,” said Alexander von Bismarck, the EIA’s US executive director. “CFC-11 is also a super global warmer, making this a serious threat for our climate as well.”
He added: “What we’ve uncovered is a systemic problem, not isolated incidents. It requires a comprehensive nationwide intelligence-led investigation and higher penalties throughout the sector that fit the crime.”

 
This is what happens when idiots get the idea to let China have the benefits of being in the global community without making them follow the rules like everyone else has to.

We did it to ourselves folks,

SORRY!
 
No one is surprised, I hope.
 
Ozone depletion and global warming are conspiracy theories created by the Chinese to ruin the US
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
The independent?

A notorious left wing source. I am sure the source you normally use will back me up
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I just follow the evidence.

The mysterious, ozone-depleting chemical is being illegally produced by Chinese manufacturers and is leading to a surge in emissions of the destructive gas, according to the Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA).
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is what happens when idiots get the idea to let China have the benefits of being in the global community without making them follow the rules like everyone else has to.

We did it to ourselves folks,

SORRY!
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Another reason why we need to stop such large trade with China.
 
ecofarm said:
No one is surprised, I hope.
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Not at all. Please explain why we should spend significant money trying to reduce an insignificant amount of our greenhouse gas emissions when we allow other countries to do as they please?

Such ecological apathy by the Chinese needs to be rewarded with sanctions of trade.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Not at all. Please explain why we should spend significant money trying to reduce an insignificant amount of our greenhouse gas emissions when we allow other countries to do as they please?

Such ecological apathy by the Chinese needs to be rewarded with sanctions of trade.
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One's ethics are not established by others. The noble are always at a disadvantage.

I agree. Let's, as the Western world, push China into the 21st Century.
 
ecofarm said:
I agree. Let's, as the Western world, push China into the 21st Century.
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Yes, and one way would be to tariff the itsha out of their manufactured goods. A pollution tax. Not a CO2 tax, but a pollution tax. Look at all their ecological shortcomings, and tax their exports for their damage to the earth.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes, and one way would be to tariff the itsha out of their manufactured goods. A pollution tax. Not a CO2 tax, but a pollution tax. Look at all their ecological shortcomings, and tax their exports for their damage to the earth.
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If we're not consistent, internally as well as regarding other nations, it won't pass the WTO. One must prove it's environmental concern and not protectionism.

There's one reason our house should be in order no matter theirs. There are many.
 
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ecofarm said:
If we're not consistent, internally as well as regarding other nations, it won't pass the WTO. One must prove it's environmental concern and not protectionism.

There's one reason our house should be in order no matter theirs. There are many.
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I completely agree with your point, but we disagree on what that order is.
 
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