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Quakeland

She has found a way to profit from peoples fears.

Hint, pay attention and watch the video before you once again stick your foot in so far it comes out the other end.

Oooops, too late..
 
Hint, pay attention and watch the video before you once again stick your foot in so far it comes out the other end.

Oooops, too late..
So she is not making a profit from selling her books?
I actually watched part of the video, trying to find if she got the surfactant part of the
cause of the earthquakes related to correct, she did not, she said it was because of the pressure of the
injected waste water, Most Scientist who study this seem to think it is not the pressure, but the contents of the wastewater.
 
So she is not making a profit from selling her books?
I actually watched part of the video, trying to find if she got the surfactant part of the
cause of the earthquakes related to correct, she did not, she said it was because of the pressure of the
injected waste water, Most Scientist who study this seem to think it is not the pressure, but the contents of the wastewater.

Ahh, you actually watched, just long enough to nit pick.

To everyone else, it's a good video.
 
Ahh, you actually watched, just long enough to nit pick.

To everyone else, it's a good video.
Actually it is choppy, but I was looking for something to validate or invalidate if her concepts were correct.
She went with injection pressure instead of surfactants as the cause of the slipping fractured structures.
Fracking has lots of bad concerns, but not the ones most people think about.
Fracking oil well is a symptom of a oil reservoir that is running low.
Fracking increases the cost of goods sold of an existing well and shortens it's life.
Also do you really think she is not making a profit on her books?
 
She went with injection pressure instead of surfactants as the cause of the slipping fractured structures.

Same nit pick.

That's a tiny part of her talk, and not an important one.

Mine wasn't choppy. She was slow to get going, but then this is a new idea, and you need to broach new ideas at a pace slow enough for people that are there to absord them.
 
Same nit pick.

That's a tiny part of her talk, and not an important one.

Mine wasn't choppy. She was slow to get going, but then this is a new idea, and you need to broach new ideas at a pace slow enough for people that are there to absord them.
It is at the very heart of the concept. Why are earthquakes occurring where waste water is re injected into wells?
Most think it is because the waste water contains surfactants.
 
The USGS have published this:


EXCERPT:

Induced Earthquakes

"Fact 1: Fracking is NOT causing most of the induced earthquakes. Wastewater disposal is the primary cause of the recent increase in earthquakes in the central United States.

Wastewater disposal wells typically operate for longer durations and inject much more fluid than hydraulic fracturing, making them more likely to induce earthquakes. In Oklahoma, which has the most induced earthquakes in US, only 1-2% of the earthquakes can be linked to hydraulic fracturing operations. The remaining earthquakes are induced by wastewater disposal."
 
It is at the very heart of the concept.

It's a tiny part of what she is talking about.

When she starts into the section you are whining about, she says "In addition to..." and then goes on to talk about all the different ways you can get anthropgenic caused earthquakes.

But mostly she's about the big picture, than we aren't adequately prepared for big earthquakes.

I know the world revolves around fracking for you, for whatever reason, but this is ridiculous.
 
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Before I bother to waste some of my life on this video can anybody tell me how humans create any significant earthquakes?

I mean significant in a damage to buildings kind of way not just measurable.
 
It's a tiny part of what she is talking about.

When she starts into the section you are whining about, she says "In addition to..." and then goes on to talk about all the different ways you can get anthropgenic caused earthquakes.

But mostly she's about the big picture, than we aren't adequately prepared for big earthquakes.

I know the world revolves around fracking for you, for whatever reason, but this is ridiculous.

Peel back the layers of the onion, the places that frack but do not re inject waste water, do not get earthquakes.
If one wants to look at anthropgenic caused earthquakes, it is kind of important to isolate out the variables.
At the end of the day, she is selling a book.
 
At the end of the day, she is selling a book.

At the end of the day, you are selling oil company propaganda.

You are obsessing over a tiny part of her talk that is simply not relevant to her message... we need to do a lot better at preparing for earthquakes.
 
At the end of the day, you are selling oil company propaganda.

You are obsessing over a tiny part of her talk that is simply not relevant to her message... we need to do a lot better at preparing for earthquakes.
How so? All I have said is that fracking is oil fields is a sign of the of the reservoir running low,
and that the lady has found a way to profit from peoples fears.
Neither of these ideas are oil company propaganda.
How about rather than preparing for earthquakes, (which earthquake prone areas should have been doing anyway,)
we stop the activity that is causing the new earthquake areas, like injecting wastewater back into fracked wells.
 
How about rather than preparing for earthquakes, (which earthquake prone areas should have been doing anyway,)
we stop the activity that is causing the new earthquake areas, like injecting wastewater back into fracked wells.

Which means stopping fracking, which is a good idea.

Your argument that we should ignore the problem is beyond absurd. Take a look at the big San Fran quake.
 
Which means stopping fracking, which is a good idea.

Your argument that we should ignore the problem is beyond absurd. Take a look at the big San Fran quake.

How does stooping waste water injection equate to stopping fracking?
San Fransico is in a known earthquake zone.



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Induced Earthquakes - USGS Earthquake Hazards Program

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/myths.php


Fact 1: Fracking is NOT causing most of the induced earthquakes. Wastewater disposal is the primary cause of the recent increase in earthquakes in the central ...

[FONT=&quot][h=2]Myths and Misconceptions[/h][h=3]What you do and don’t know about induced seismicity[/h]
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[h=3]Fact 1: Fracking is NOT causing most of the induced earthquakes. Wastewater disposal is the primary cause of the recent increase in earthquakes in the central United States.[/h]Wastewater disposal wells typically operate for longer durations and inject much more fluid than hydraulic fracturing, making them more likely to induce earthquakes. In Oklahoma, which has the most induced earthquakes in US, only 1-2% of the earthquakes can be linked to hydraulic fracturing operations. The remaining earthquakes are induced by wastewater disposal.
[h=3]Fact 2: Not all wastewater injection wells induce earthquakes.[/h]Most injection wells are not associated with felt earthquakes. A combination of many factors is necessary for injection to induce felt earthquakes. These include: the injection rate and total volume injected; the presence of faults that are large enough to produce felt earthquakes; stresses that are large enough to produce earthquakes; and the presence of pathways for the fluid pressure to travel from the injection point to faults.
[h=3]Fact 3: Wastewater is produced at all oil wells, not just hydraulic fracturing sites.[/h]Most wastewater currently disposed of across the nation is generated and produced in the process of oil and gas extraction. As discussed above, saltwater is produced as a byproduct during the extraction process. This wastewater is found at nearly every oil and gas extraction well.
The other main constituent of wastewater is leftover hydraulic fracturing fluid. Once hydraulic fracturing is completed, drilling engineers extract the fluids that are remaining in the well. Some of this recovered hydraulic fracturing fluid is used in subsequent fracking operations, while some of it is disposed of in deep wells.
[h=3]Fact 4: The content of the wastewater injected in disposal wells is highly variable.[/h]In many locations, wastewater has little or nothing to do with hydraulic fracturing. In Oklahoma, less than 10% of the water injected into wastewater disposal wells is used hydraulic fracturing fluid. Most of the wastewater in Oklahoma is saltwater that comes up along with oil during the extraction process.
In contrast, the fluid disposed of near earthquake sequences that occurred in Youngstown, Ohio, and Guy, Arkansas, consisted largely of spent hydraulic fracturing fluid.
[h=3]Fact 5: Induced seismicity can occur at significant distances from injection wells and at different depths.[/h]Seismicity can be induced at distances of 10 miles or more away from the injection point and at significantly greater depths than the injection point.
[h=3]Fact 6: Wells not requiring surface pressure to inject wastewater can still induce earthquakes.[/h]Wells where you can pour fluid down the well without added pressure at the wellhead still increase the fluid pressure within the formation and thus can induce earthquakes.
[h=3]See also:[/h]
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She has found a way to profit from peoples fears.

This may be true. Probably is. I'm reading about here and I'm watching the video. Only about 10 minutes into what... 42 minutes?

I an interedted in topics like this, when there is valid information. Haven't gotten there, but I assume our part of it will be the removal of oil.
 
So she is not making a profit from selling her books?
I actually watched part of the video, trying to find if she got the surfactant part of the
cause of the earthquakes related to correct, she did not, she said it was because of the pressure of the
injected waste water, Most Scientist who study this seem to think it is not the pressure, but the contents of the wastewater.

I'm not there yet, but I think this has nothing to do with it myself. I think these pockets of fluids simply move and are pushed around by the earths internal pressures.
 
What she says about 1/3rd the way through might have merit, but it is speculation.
 
I'm not there yet, but I think this has nothing to do with it myself. I think these pockets of fluids simply move and are pushed around by the earths internal pressures.

The way I understand it the waste water in some cases contains surfactants, (solutions designed to help extract oil).
like adding Teflon tape to a fitting, it allows high pressure bits to slip more than they normally would.
 
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