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Antarctic thaw quickens, trillions of tonnes of ice raise sea levels

Your prejudice is the foundation of your ignorance.

I admit it. I am prejudiced against conspiracy sites which promote pseudoscience. You caught me. :)
 
If you seriously don't know about analytic philosophy then you haven't studied philosophy.

"Over the course of the twentieth century analytic philosophy developed into the dominant philosophical tradition in the English-speaking world, and it is now steadily growing in the non-English-speaking world. Originating in the work of Frege, Russell, Moore, and Wittgenstein, it has now ramified into all areas of philosophy, diversifying in its methodology, ideas, and positions."

What is Analytic Philosophy? - Oxford Handbooks

'Philosophy' isn't some website you found with a list of logical fallacies you can mindlessly and illogically parrot in lieu of an actual argument.

There is no such thing as 'analytic' philosophy. There is just philosophy. Wikipedia does not define philosophy. False authority fallacy.
 

[h=1]Evidence of Recent Volcanic Eruptions Under the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet[/h]Guest post by David Middleton The discovery of volcanoes under the Antarctic ice sheet may be old news, but now we have evidence that at least some of them have recently (geologically speaking) erupted… The First Solid Evidence of Eruptions Under Antarctic Ice By Ross Pomeroy September 14, 2017 In August, researchers at Edinburgh University announced that…

September 14, 2017 in Antarctic, Vulcanism.

Yes volcanism is ADDING to the melt rates but AGW is the main driver.

Does that mean that global climate change is not a factor in the stability of the Pine Island Glacier?

No, said Loose. “Climate change is causing the bulk of glacial melt that we observe, and this newly discovered source of heat is having an as-yet undetermined effect, because we do not know how this heat is distributed beneath the ice sheet.”

He said other studies have shown that melting caused by climate change is reducing the size and weight of the glacier, which reduces the pressure on the mantle, allowing greater heat from the volcanic source to escape and then warm the ocean water.

https://today.uri.edu/news/researchers-discover-volcanic-heat-source-under-major-antarctic-glacier/
 
Some of you may want to watch this video. It does a good job of providing an educational overview of Sea Level Rise, and all the causes and effects.

[video]https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/sea-level-rise/sea-level-rise-intro-outro-captioned.webm[/video]
 
[h=2]Far Southern Ocean cools. Kiss Goodbye to polar amplication around Antarctica[/h]
A map of the sea surface zone that has cooled since 1979 — from 56S – 72S . It’s a pretty big area. Click to enlarge.
For years the IPCC have said that warming would be amplified at the poles. They warned us things would heat up twice as fast, which would melt sea ice. The oceans surface in turn would switch from being reflective white to a dark absorbing deep blue. Enormous amounts of energy would then flow into the ocean instead of being reflected back out to space. The more it warmed, the more it would warm — unleashing a devastating feedback loop.
As the Arctic warmed, the merchants of doom were keen to tell us how how right they were and this was evidence of man-made warming. But in the Antarctic exactly the opposite trend was taking place.
Mike Jonas has done what the IPCC should have been doing — investigating the trends in the Sea Surface Temperature in the polar latitudes with satellite records. In the latitude band from 56 to 72 degrees south the oceans have cooled, not warmed. The models don’t even have the sign of the trend correct. At the latitudes where the models expected the most warming, the ocean surface cooled as fast as a tenth of a degree per decade. For the sea surface, that’s surprisingly quick.
It’s more evidence that things are seriously wrong in the global models. The modelers don’t understand the climate, they can’t predict the major processes of ocean currents, cloud changes and albedo. How can they even say they “know” what drives changes in the Arctic if their same models fail so badly on the Antarctic? They claim random luck as “success” and throw a veil of silence over the non-random failures.
As McKitrick and Christy point out:
Swanson (2013) noted that the changes in model output between CMIP3 and CMIP5 improved the fit to Arctic warming but worsened it everywhere else, raising the possibility that the models were getting the Arctic right for the wrong reasons. …
When Jonas tried to get this significant finding published in the peer review, the usual gatekeeping process meant these simple but cutting graphs were rejected — without a right of reply (that’s another story for another day).
But here, I’m happy to publish his work in the exact form he submitted for peer review (so we can discuss the peer review process itself. Though I would have suggested some edits). Thanks to Mike Jonas for all his work!
Jo

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Southern Oceans Sea Surface Temperatures contradict a key element of the IPCC Report[/h]Author: M Jonas (Cover note of submission)
Author’s affiliations: None
[h=3]Abstract[/h]The hypothesis – Surface warming is amplified by sea ice- and snow-related feedbacks near the poles – is supported by climate models and was an important factor in the fifth IPCC report. The sea ice part of this hypothesis was tested, using Sea Surface Temperatures of the Southern Oceans. The test showed clearly that the sea ice part of the hypothesis is contradicted by the data, because there was quite strong overall cooling in the latitudes where amplified warming was expected. There must therefore be one or more important large-scale climate processes that are not reasonably represented in the models. From this, it necessarily follows that the climate models are invalid and their Antarctic projections in particular are now untenable. It also necessarily follows that the climate models’ global projections are unreliable.
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A common theme - AGW is the main driver of warming. Whether it be the oceans, the atmosphere or the land. If something else, such as volcanoes is affecting warming (maybe 5% of the warming), the denier bloggers immediately post crap implying primary causation. It's not science and it's not journalism. I'm not sure what it is.
 
A common theme - AGW is the main driver of warming. Whether it be the oceans, the atmosphere or the land. If something else, such as volcanoes is affecting warming (maybe 5% of the warming), the denier bloggers immediately post crap implying primary causation. It's not science and it's not journalism. I'm not sure what it is.

I think a good part of it is because they have succeeded in making it a partisan political issue where data and facts have no meaning. It's a coalition of wealthy fossil fuel producers and the alt right. Which is the same as the Right now that so many of them are Trumpers.

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I think a good part of it is because they have succeeded in making it a partisan political issue where data and facts have no meaning. It's a coalition of wealthy fossil fuel producers and the alt right. Which is the same as the Right now that so many of them are Trumpers.

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Yes sir!
 
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