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Major paper shows massive loss of Antarctic ice over the last few decades.

Ice loss is from West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula. That's where the volcanoes are. This is a matter of geology, not climate.
 
After several years it's pretty clear you don't do much thinking about this topic yourself.
But you do post what other people think without the slightest hint that you understand it or would ever bother to challenge it yourself.
We keep waiting.
Maybe some day.

Yes.

Criticizing Nature papers you haven’t read and don’t understand is a much better way to approach the topic.

I just have this odd belief that people who study this for a living know more about it than you do. Crazy, huh?
 
You do realize those vetters are peers which means other AGW grant getters.

Actually the people who do best in science are the ones who rock the boat and come up with ground breaking new ideas. There is a lot of pressure for grants to come up with something new and different, not coming up with the same old stuff. The fact that no one serious has yet been able to do that speaks volumes to the strength of the current data for AGW.
 
[h=1]Scientists discover 91 volcanoes below Antarctic ice sheet[/h]From The Guardian This is in addition to 47 already known about and eruption would melt more ice in region affected by climate change This is in addition to 47 already known about and eruption would melt more ice in region affected by climate change Robin McKie Saturday 12 August 2017 18.11 EDT Last modified…
 
[h=2]Panic time: a tiny 0.01% of Antarctica, resting on volcanoes, melts five times faster than nothing[/h]
Let this go down as a prime example of Big Meaningless Numbers used to scare you:
Antarctica’s ice melts five times faster than usual Ben Webster – The Times (copied at The Australian)
Antarctica has lost an area of ice the size of Greater London since 2010 as warmer ocean water erodes its floating edge, a study has found. Overall about 1,463 sq km of Antarctica’s underwater ice melted between 2010 and 2016.
What does 1,463 fewer square kilometers of ice mean?
The findings suggest that melting glaciers on the continent could add significantly to long-term sea level rises, with severe implications for thousands of coastal towns and cities.
Your house might wash away. Or not. How close to zero can a number be and still be “a number”?
The total area of Antarctic sea ice averages about 11 million square kilometers. So that’s one part in 7,500 that melted or 0.013%. But volume is what matters and the percentage of volume that melted is even smaller. Let’s assume ice volume was lost to a depth of one kilometer (the depth of the “grounding line” where the ice-sheet meets the earth). The giant Antarctic Ice Sheet [...]

April 5th, 2018 | Tags: Antarctica, Sea ice, Volcano | Category: Global Warming | Print This Post | Email This Post |
 
As predicted a furious flurry of unrelated denier blog posts, found no doubt by typing ‘Antarctica’ into the WUWT search engine.

Hope they are paying you.
 
As predicted a furious flurry of unrelated denier blog posts, found no doubt by typing ‘Antarctica’ into the WUWT search engine.

Hope they are paying you.

Sadly, you have lived up to all my expectations by denying the science. Linked in #29.

[FONT=&quot]The paper:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Heat flux distribution of Antarctica unveiled by Yasmina M. Martos, Manuel Catalan, Tom A Jordan, Alexander Golynsky, Dmitry Golynsky, Graeme Eagles, David Vaughan is published in Geophysical Research Letters here:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017GL075609/abstract[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Abstract[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Antarctica is the largest reservoir of ice on Earth. Understanding its ice sheet dynamics is crucial to unraveling past global climate change and making robust climatic and sea level predictions. Of the basic parameters that shape and control ice flow, the most poorly known is geothermal heat flux. Direct observations of heat flux are difficult to obtain in Antarctica, and until now continent-wide heat flux maps have only been derived from low-resolution satellite magnetic and seismological data. We present a high resolution heat flux map and associated uncertainty derived from spectral analysis of the most advanced continental compilation of airborne magnetic data. Small-scale spatial variability and features consistent with known geology are better reproduced than in previous models, between 36% and 50%. Our high-resolution heat-flux map and its uncertainty distribution provide an important new boundary condition to be used in studies on future subglacial hydrology, ice-sheet dynamics and sea-level change.[/FONT]
 
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Sadly, you have lived up to all my expectations by denying the science.

[FONT="][B]The paper:[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]Heat flux distribution of Antarctica unveiled by Yasmina M. Martos, Manuel Catalan, Tom A Jordan, Alexander Golynsky, Dmitry Golynsky, Graeme Eagles, David Vaughan is published in Geophysical Research Letters here:[/FONT]

[FONT="][URL]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017GL075609/abstract[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#404040][FONT="]Abstract[/FONT]

[FONT="]Antarctica is the largest reservoir of ice on Earth. Understanding its ice sheet dynamics is crucial to unraveling past global climate change and making robust climatic and sea level predictions. Of the basic parameters that shape and control ice flow, the most poorly known is geothermal heat flux. Direct observations of heat flux are difficult to obtain in Antarctica, and until now continent-wide heat flux maps have only been derived from low-resolution satellite magnetic and seismological data. We present a high resolution heat flux map and associated uncertainty derived from spectral analysis of the most advanced continental compilation of airborne magnetic data. Small-scale spatial variability and features consistent with known geology are better reproduced than in previous models, between 36% and 50%. Our high-resolution heat-flux map and its uncertainty distribution provide an important new boundary condition to be used in studies on future subglacial hydrology, ice-sheet dynamics and sea-level change.[/FONT]

It's clear after 5 years that we shouldn't expect otherwise.
It's like headlines is as far as they go.
Honestly, I've seen such incuriousity from only a few posters on topics they themselves start threads on.
 
It's clear after 5 years that we shouldn't expect otherwise.
It's like headlines is as far as they go.
Honestly, I've seen such incuriousity from only a few posters on topics they themselves start threads on.

When you have a substantial comment, feel free to post it.
 
No, they don't mention volcanoes. Sloppy work.

Yeah...

Hey- have you seen ANYTHING (outside of denier blog posts) tat actually thinks volcanoes are the main reason for Antarctic melt?

I mean.. just a statement by a scientist. SOMEWHERE. Not an article out of context- but an actual statement. ANYWHERE.

Can you let us know?
 
Yeah...

Hey- have you seen ANYTHING (outside of denier blog posts) tat actually thinks volcanoes are the main reason for Antarctic melt?

I mean.. just a statement by a scientist. SOMEWHERE. Not an article out of context- but an actual statement. ANYWHERE.

Can you let us know?

Is volcanic activity contributing to the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet? - AntarcticGlaciers.org
Antarctic Glaciers › FAQs



You can learn all about subglacial volcanoes here. The West Antarctic Ice Sheet has many subglacial lakes beneath it; geothermal heating is thought to contribute to the melting of the base of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet .

[h=1]Is volcanic activity contributing to the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet?[/h][h=3]Asked by Morag[/h]Wow, this is an interesting question! You can learn all about subglacial volcanoes here. The West Antarctic Ice Sheet has many subglacial lakes beneath it; geothermal heating is thought to contribute to the melting of the base of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. However, the extent of this, and the rate, is very poorly known and currently not included in glaciological numerical models. Actual volcanoes may, during eruptions, melt quite large portions of the ice sheet around them. In Iceland, volcanic eruptions beneath the ice sheet regularly cause catastrophic floods, called jokulhlaups. Subglacial volcanoes are therefore probably contributing at least a little to Antarctic ice sheet melt; the extent to which this is happening is probably reasonably stable over longer timescales.
 
You could just say ‘no, no actual scientists say its a major contributor’.

Oddly, your link says that the contribution is stable over long timescales, which means.... the same thing.
 
You could just say ‘no, no actual scientists say its a major contributor’.

Oddly, your link says that the contribution is stable over long timescales, which means.... the same thing.

Volcano 'as powerful as Yellowstone' MELTS ice beneath Antarctica | Science | News | Express.co.uk - Daily Express
Daily Express › uk › News › Science


Experts working at the South Pole have found evidence to support a theory that a gigantic geothermal heat source may be lurking beneath the surface – and it could be as devastating as the Yellowstone volcano.
Scientists first theorised the ice was melting due to a volcano when they noticed a breathing effect was visible on Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land in the west of the icy continent.
The volcano itself is not a new discovery, but the new research suggests it could be aiding global warming and could be why the ice sheet collapsed 11,000 years ago in a previous example of rapid climate change.
Hélène Seroussi of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, said: "I thought it was crazy. I didn't see how we could have that amount of heat and still have ice on top of it.”. . .

In a statement, Nasa said: “They found that the flux of energy from the mantle plume must be no more than 150 milliwatts per square meter.



 
You could just say ‘no, no actual scientists say its a major contributor’.

Oddly, your link says that the contribution is stable over long timescales, which means.... the same thing.

She looks actual enough to me.

"I am a glaciologist specialising in reconstructing glacier dynamics over multiple timescales, from both field and remotely sensed data, particularly in the Antarctic Peninsula, Britain and Patagonia. I am also interested in using ice-sheet and climate models to constrain the interaction between glaciers and climate. I wrote and developed the AntarcticGlaciers website as part of an ongoing commitment to outreach, education and research impact.

Contact details

Email: bethan [at] AntarcticGlaciers.org or bethan.davies [at] rhul.ac.uk

Address: Dr Bethan Davies, Centre for Quaternary Research, Department of Geography, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX

Website: RHUL Department of Geography"
 
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She looks actual enough to me.

"I am a glaciologist specialising in reconstructing glacier dynamics over multiple timescales, from both field and remotely sensed data, particularly in the Antarctic Peninsula, Britain and Patagonia. I am also interested in using ice-sheet and climate models to constrain the interaction between glaciers and climate. I wrote and developed the AntarcticGlaciers website as part of an ongoing commitment to outreach, education and research impact.

Contact details

Email: bethan [at] AntarcticGlaciers.org or bethan.davies [at] rhul.ac.uk

Address: Dr Bethan Davies, Centre for Quaternary Research, Department of Geography, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX

Website: RHUL Department of Geography"

Her credentials look fine. But she’s not saying volcanoes are a significant player in ice melt.

Seems like you can find someone...

So far, you have someone stating that there indeed are volcanoes.

And you have someone stating that volcanoes are hot.

I dont see anyone saying that they are playing a substantial role in melting.
 
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