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Sea ice extent falls to new record low

Not only not melting but getting thicker from below as well as from any snowfall that lands on it.

Looks like the cooling sun may be starting to show its effects. It's also possible this is the normal action, and as the shelf becomes more rigid, it breaks.

For you believers of the AGW dogma... Keep in mind we still don't know with any scientific certainty, the effects of all the significant variables.
 
Looks like the cooling sun may be starting to show its effects. It's also possible this is the normal action, and as the shelf becomes more rigid, it breaks.

For you believers of the AGW dogma... Keep in mind we still don't know with any scientific certainty, the effects of all the significant variables.

One day it will have winds on it that will eiter make it break up or float away. Then the process will start again. It may well be in tens of thousands of years.
 
The Chukchi Sea abuts the Bering Sea via the Bering Strait. The Chukchi is not irrelevant to the Bering.

Jesus.

You don’t even read your links that you spam, do you?

Now I see why you just cut and paste...because you have no context to add.

The graph I posted was about the ice in 2018.

You posted an irrelevant paleoclimate study.

WTF?
 
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Jesus.

You don’t even read your links that you spam, do you?

Now I see why you just cut and paste...because you have no context to add.

The graph I posted was about the ice in 2018.

You posted an irrelevant paleoclimate study.

WTF?

That's because the several paleo studies show that what's happening now isn't important, or even significant.

". . . Earlier this year, Stein et al., 2017 published a reconstruction of Arctic sea ice variations throughout the Holocene that appeared to establish that there is more Arctic sea ice now than for nearly all of the last 10,000 years.
The study region, the Chukchi Sea, was deemed representative of most of the Arctic, as the authors asserted that “the increase in sea ice extent during the late Holocene seems to be a circum-Arctic phenomenon as PIP25-based sea ice records from the Fram Strait, Laptev Sea, East Siberian Sea and Chukchi Sea display a generally quite similar evolution, all coinciding with the decrease in solar radiation.” . . ."

And:

". . . Within the last month, two more papers have been published that further affirm the conclusion that modern Arctic sea ice extent has not changed significantly relative to even the last few centuries, nor has it fallen outside the range of natural variability. . . ."
 
That's because the several paleo studies show that what's happening now isn't important, or even significant.

". . . Earlier this year, Stein et al., 2017 published a reconstruction of Arctic sea ice variations throughout the Holocene that appeared to establish that there is more Arctic sea ice now than for nearly all of the last 10,000 years.
The study region, the Chukchi Sea, was deemed representative of most of the Arctic, as the authors asserted that “the increase in sea ice extent during the late Holocene seems to be a circum-Arctic phenomenon as PIP25-based sea ice records from the Fram Strait, Laptev Sea, East Siberian Sea and Chukchi Sea display a generally quite similar evolution, all coinciding with the decrease in solar radiation.” . . ."

And:

". . . Within the last month, two more papers have been published that further affirm the conclusion that modern Arctic sea ice extent has not changed significantly relative to even the last few centuries, nor has it fallen outside the range of natural variability. . . ."

Yet...

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And non-denier publications have, not surprisingly, a different interpretation than your scammy blogs.

Arctic sea ice outlook at worst point in 125,000 years | Cosmos
 
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And why is the arctic ice so astonishingly low?

It’s the warmest winter ever recorded in the Arctic.

Truly amazing, and it was all accurately predicted decades ago.

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And why is the arctic ice so astonishingly low?

It’s the warmest winter ever recorded in the Arctic.

Truly amazing, and it was all accurately predicted decades ago.

Well, that's all obviously fake news since someone reported seeing a snowball in Washington DC!
 
Well, that’s... irrelevant.

I sure hope someone is paying you to spam denier blog posts, because otherwise...it would be pretty sad.

He posted the published science paper with a link, you sneer at it.

Your comment was dead on arrival.............
 
Wow the dead on arrival comments are really bad. They even sneer at peer reviewed science papers now......


Then Dr. Meier is then wrong when he says there were little to no summer ice for long periods of time"

Can the Arctic really become sea ice-free during summer?

It has been suggested that the Arctic really can’t lose all its sea ice during summer because there isn’t enough energy to melt all of the ice in the short summer. There are a couple of reasons why this thinking is faulty.
First, we know the Arctic can potentially lose all its sea ice during summer because it has done so in the past. Examination of several proxy records (e.g., sediment cores) of sea ice indicate ice-free or near ice-free summer conditions for at least some time during the period of 15,000 to 5,000 years ago (Polyak et al., 2010) when Arctic temperatures were not much warmer than today.

LINK

or,

Arctic Ocean perennial sea ice breakdown during the Early Holocene Insolation Maximum

Abstract

Arctic Ocean sea ice proxies generally suggest a reduction in sea ice during parts of the early and middle Holocene (∼6000–10,000 years BP) compared to present day conditions. This sea ice minimum has been attributed to the northern hemisphere Early Holocene Insolation Maximum (EHIM) associated with Earth's orbital cycles. Here we investigate the transient effect of insolation variations during the final part of the last glaciation and the Holocene by means of continuous climate simulations with the coupled atmosphere–sea ice–ocean column model CCAM. We show that the increased insolation during EHIM has the potential to push the Arctic Ocean sea ice cover into a regime dominated by seasonal ice, i.e. ice free summers. The strong sea ice thickness response is caused by the positive sea ice albedo feedback. Studies of the GRIP ice cores and high latitude North Atlantic sediment cores show that the Bølling–Allerød period (c. 12,700–14,700 years BP) was a climatically unstable period in the northern high latitudes and we speculate that this instability may be linked to dual stability modes of the Arctic sea ice cover characterized by e.g. transitions between periods with and without perennial sea ice cover.


LINK


or,

Birds and Climatic Change

LINK

or,

New insights on Arctic Quaternary climate variability from palaeo-records and numerical modelling

LINK

or,

The dynamic Arctic

LINK
 

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Your link has NOTHING to do with Arctic ice, but about habitat on LAND areas far from the polar region.

You post a short term sea ice cover chart, while Jack posted actual science papers about long term sea ice changes.

It obviously flew right over your head.
 
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Your link has NOTHING to do with Arctic ice, but about habitat on LAND areas far from the polar region.

You post a short term sea ice cover chart, while Jack posted actual science papers about long term sea ice changes.

It obviously flew right over your head.

As I noted, Einstein...it’s just about as relevant.
 
As I noted, Einstein...it’s just about as relevant.

No Jack and YOU stayed on the sea ice topic, Your beaver deflection was not about sea ice at all.

You forgot something?
 
It is clear Threegoofs has no answer to post 39

LINK

You deflected nothing more.
 
If you were making a point, you might want to..make a point.

The point is obvious, but that would mean you would have to acknowledge that the mantra, "Sea ice extent falls to new record low" is clearly false.

Surely you can't be that clueless....?
 
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Your link has NOTHING to do with Arctic ice, but about habitat on LAND areas far from the polar region.

You post a short term sea ice cover chart, while Jack posted actual science papers about long term sea ice changes.

It obviously flew right over your head.

3goofs get my nomination as the person here who has done and continues to do the most to further the Skeptic's side arguments. Bit like Hitler being the general in WWII who did most for the Allied cause.
 
The point is obvious, but that would mean you would have to acknowledge that the mantra, "Sea ice extent falls to new record low" is clearly false.

Surely you can't be that clueless....?

Oh, he can be!
 
The point is obvious, but that would mean you would have to acknowledge that the mantra, "Sea ice extent falls to new record low" is clearly false.

Surely you can't be that clueless....?

Again, you might want to make a point.

Sea Ice is clearly at a record low in the observational record. I suppose during the Carboniferous, sea ice didn’t exist.

Not sure why that’s relevant.
 
Again, you might want to make a point.

Sea Ice is clearly at a record low in the observational record. I suppose during the Carboniferous, sea ice didn’t exist.

Not sure why that’s relevant.

It is clear you are not here to have an honest debate, just deflect or not even try to see the obvious point I made that others here already understood.

By the way ALL those links you didn't Perouse was about THIS interglacial period, which showed there were a lot less to NO summer ice in the Arctic region than now which lasted a few THOUSAND years. The last time it was like that was during the MWP.

That was the obvious you keep fighting against.

So you can be that little child Linus hanging onto a 4 decade sea ice record blanket, which actually started in 1973 if that make you feel any better.
 
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