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One year in, Trump's environmental agenda is already taking a measurable toll[W:78]

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One year in, Trump's environmental agenda is already taking a measurable toll

By EVAN HALPER
JAN 18, 2018

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One year into the Trump administration's unrelenting push to dilute and disable clean air and water policies, the impact is being felt in communities across the country. Power plants have been given expanded license to pollute, the dirtiest trucks are being allowed to remain on the roads and punishment of the biggest environmental scofflaws is on the decline. The real-time impact of the most industry-friendly regulatory regime in decades is at times overshadowed by policy battles that are years from resolution. President Trump's moves to shrink national monuments, return drilling to the waters off the West Coast and allow natural gas companies to release more methane into the air are destined to be tied up in court for the foreseeable future. The contentious Keystone XL pipeline may never get built as volatile oil prices threaten its profitability. Yet the air and the water are already being affected as the administration tinkers with programs obscure to most Americans, with names like "Effluent Limitations Guidelines and Standards for Steam Electric Power Plants" and "Air Quality Designations for Ozone."

The numbers emerging from the federal government's database of enforcement actions against polluters show that from the time EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt took the helm early last year through November, the dollar amount of pollution-control equipment and cleanup activity the EPA demanded environmental scofflaws install dropped by more than 85%. Coal plants that were poised to start installing the new technology as soon as this year are now balking."We were working with a good number of utilities who immediately said we are putting this on hold," said Jamie Peterson, CEO of San Diego-based Frontier Water Systems, a company that installs the treatment technology. As the market for high-tech equipment meant to keep some of the most harmful toxins from migrating into drinking water craters during the Trump administration, the market for the highest-polluting trucks is looking up. The attorneys general of California and 11 other states call the trucks a "pollution menace" that produce 20 to 40 times the harmful emissions of new trucks their size, but the industry that makes "gliders" — trucks built using a new chassis and an old, refurbished diesel engine — has been given a big gift by the administration.
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The Trump administration --- Making Pollution Great Again.
 
Americans do not need clean air to breathe, nor do they need clean water to drink; it's all about money!! :mrgreen:
 
cuban smokes said:
Americans do not need clean air to breathe, nor do they need clean water to drink; it's all about money!! :mrgreen:
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Money is important.

People can buy bottled water and oxygen.

Rogue Valley said:
One year in, Trump's environmental agenda is already taking a measurable toll


The Trump administration --- Making Pollution Great Again.
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I like your comment, "Making Pollution Great Again."

I only find two items I am sorry about in your article, since I don't care about how much methane they put out, it only makes it warmer for me, and if I want it cold, I just have to wish it (that's not what I do), or about keeping trucks on the road, but I am discouraged to hear that devices that reduce real pollution will not be installed.

Shows me he is throwing out the baby with the bath water.

As in hes tax plan, as in his health care, as in his repeal of Obama era regulations.
 
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[h=1]Pentagon erases “climate change” from the National Defense threat list[/h]The Pentagon released a National Defense Strategy that for the first time in more than a decade does not mention manmade global warming as a security threat. An 11-page summary of the new National Defense Strategy makes no mention of “global warming” or “climate change”. The document makes no mention of “climate,” “warming,” “planet,” “sea…
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[h=1]Pentagon erases “climate change” from the National Defense threat list[/h]The Pentagon released a National Defense Strategy that for the first time in more than a decade does not mention manmade global warming as a security threat. An 11-page summary of the new National Defense Strategy makes no mention of “global warming” or “climate change”. The document makes no mention of “climate,” “warming,” “planet,” “sea…
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It's about time. It should have never been listed in such a military category, real or not.
 
Climate News
[h=1]Trump administration yanks funding for “Climate-Related Fellowships”[/h]From the AGU, tales of woe. Prestigious Climate-Related Fellowships Rescinded Reduced program is one of several that usually support climate science postdoctoral research but have eliminated or suspended funding opportunities. Last March, Katie Travis, who was finishing a Ph.D. in atmospheric chemistry at Harvard University, got what seemed like a major boost for her budding…
 
cuban smokes said:
Americans do not need clean air to breathe, nor do they need clean water to drink; it's all about money!! :mrgreen:
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Yup, Reagan assured decades of Americans worshipping of the rich and the greedy. The most appalling thing is trying to open up our most prized possessions, our national parks, to drilling. All so completely rich a holes can get even more richer. I can't believe people are so far gone in propaganda that they ignore this and continue to cheer on these monsters
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Yup, Reagan assured decades of Americans worshipping of the rich and the greedy. The most appalling thing is trying to open up our most prized possessions, our national parks, to drilling. All so completely rich a holes can get even more richer. I can't believe people are so far gone in propaganda that they ignore this and continue to cheer on these monsters
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let's face it; Americans are THAT STUPID ...........
 
Lord of Planar said:
It's about time. It should have never been listed in such a military category, real or not.
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climate change issues will no doubt negatively effect US Military assets; they can become as a giant ostrich if they like but it won't change any 'facts'
 
cuban smokes said:
Americans do not need clean air to breathe, nor do they need clean water to drink; it's all about money!! :mrgreen:
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Trump drinks bottled water and it's just a matter of time before he's on oxygen, so he doesn't give a ****.
 
Jack Hays said:
Climate News
[h=1]Trump administration yanks funding for “Climate-Related Fellowships”[/h]From the AGU, tales of woe. Prestigious Climate-Related Fellowships Rescinded Reduced program is one of several that usually support climate science postdoctoral research but have eliminated or suspended funding opportunities. Last March, Katie Travis, who was finishing a Ph.D. in atmospheric chemistry at Harvard University, got what seemed like a major boost for her budding…
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Following the "shut your eyes and hope it goes away" school of thought. Most of us discover that things don't vanish when you stop looking at them by about the age of 2.
 
Surface Detail said:
Following the "shut your eyes and hope it goes away" school of thought. Most of us discover that things don't vanish when you stop looking at them by about the age of 2.
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". . . Given the alumni list, it seems to me that a climate alarmist manufacturing program has been shut down."
 
cuban smokes said:
climate change issues will no doubt negatively effect US Military assets; they can become as a giant ostrich if they like but it won't change any 'facts'
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How can yo say that without being indoctrinated, and with a straight face?

The military trains in all climates!
 
Surface Detail said:
Following the "shut your eyes and hope it goes away" school of thought. Most of us discover that things don't vanish when you stop looking at them by about the age of 2.
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We don't fund eugenics research much anymore ether, (unless one counts Planned Parenthood).
The real problem is and always has been energy, not CO2.
If we solve our energy problem, we solve any issues with CO2 (real or otherwise) as a side effect.
 
Russell797 said:
I'm sure you did, because that's what deniers will do.
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That was an Obama administration program, now ended. For military personnel these things are just time-wasters. Find out what answer higher command wants, give it to them, and get on with your real work.
 
When clean and renewable energy options become fiscally viable, they won't need the government to make industry change

Carbon emissions should be taken seriously, but the consequences of regulating us all back to the 1820s are probably going to have a worse impact on quality of life than carbon
 
Professor2004 said:
When clean and renewable energy options become fiscally viable, they won't need the government to make industry change

Carbon emissions should be taken seriously, but the consequences of regulating us all back to the 1820s are probably going to have a worse impact on quality of life than carbon
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The obvious way to take carbon emissions seriously is to tax the activities that cause them, thus deterring those activities. Otherwise you are not actually taking them seriously.
 
Surface Detail said:
The obvious way to take carbon emissions seriously is to tax the activities that cause them, thus deterring those activities. Otherwise you are not actually taking them seriously.
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Except that Carbon is not the problem, energy is.
Until will address the correct problem, the chances of a valid solution are limited.
 
Surface Detail said:
The obvious way to take carbon emissions seriously is to tax the activities that cause them, thus deterring those activities. Otherwise you are not actually taking them seriously.
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Rather than discourage the current necessities, why not encourage alter energies?
 
He's imposing tariffs on that for good reason. Remember all the money that the last administration gave out to develop alternative energy? Do you remember where most of that went?

Here's a hint: not to alternative energy developers or manufacturers in the US.
 
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