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Climate Alarmists Caught Faking Sea Level Rise

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From my daily search on Sea Level in the news:

Tidalgate: Climate Alarmists Caught Faking Sea Level Rise

Alarmist scientists have been caught red-handed tampering with
raw data in order to exaggerate sea level rise.
...
When alarmists in charge of surface temperature datasets make
dishonest adjustments to exaggerate the appearance of global
warming, it looks like corruption.

When alarmists in the entirely separate field of sea level measurement
make precisely the same sort of dishonest adjustments in order to
accord with the same global warming narrative, it starts to look
like a conspiracy.​
Breitbart.com​
 
Breitbart.com :lol: :roll:
 
Steve Case said:
From my daily search on Sea Level in the news:

Tidalgate: Climate Alarmists Caught Faking Sea Level Rise

Alarmist scientists have been caught red-handed tampering with
raw data in order to exaggerate sea level rise.
...
When alarmists in charge of surface temperature datasets make
dishonest adjustments to exaggerate the appearance of global
warming, it looks like corruption.

When alarmists in the entirely separate field of sea level measurement
make precisely the same sort of dishonest adjustments in order to
accord with the same global warming narrative, it starts to look
like a conspiracy.​
Breitbart.com​
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What a wonderful example of right-wing wingnuttery - if a group of scientists have to adjust their data, the right-wingers assume that those scientists were actually faking it the entire time!

Yep! Every nation on the planet is fooled, too - 'cept for 'Murica, where only the American conservatives know the REAL truth, huh? 'Cause all the other nations, and the vast, overwhelming majority of the scientific community (and nearly the entire climatology community) agree on global warming...so that means that they all must be in on it! It's a VAST left-wing conspiracy including almost all the scientists and including every other nation on the planet...and only the 'Murican right wing stands between them and rampant socialism forcing Big Oil and Big Coal to kneel before socialism!!!!!

Good grief. This, people, is why conspiracy theories are seen as the province of the uneducated and the willfully ignorant.
 
I agree with Breitbart.com. Science isn't about revising or rechecking. The first thing you think is always the only thing to think, forever. That's why I'm using leeches to work out this headache.
 
Steve Case said:
From my daily search on Sea Level in the news:
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From your own article.....

"So there is nothing per se wrong with PSMSL making adjustments in order to make the different datasets align."

"In Aden, for example, the alarmists have turned a modest 1.21 mm/year rise into a 3.02 mm/year rise."

So, first, your own article has to admit that there has in fact been a rise in the sea level even if it's not as big as what's been reporting. It also fully admits that there's nothing necessarily wrong with adjusting this data they just don't seem to fully understand why. In otherwords the sea levels are definately rising, and the scientists who study them seem to think it's even worse than their initial measurements indicate even though a bunch of science illerate skeptics don't seem to understand why.
 
Deuce said:
I agree with Breitbart.com. Science isn't about revising or rechecking. The first thing you think is always the only thing to think, forever. That's why I'm using leeches to work out this headache.
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Good for you!

Science is all about feelings. If by the end your findings don't jive with what you feel to be right, you're just not doing it right.
 
Phys251 said:
Breitbart.com :lol: :roll:
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graeme104 said:
How to discredit yourself 101
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I see we've now heard from the silly and shallow participants.

For those interested in substance:

". . . The whistle was blown by two Australian scientists Dr. Albert Parker and Dr. Clifford Ollier in a paper for Earth Systems and Environment.
The paper – Is the Sea Level Stable at Aden, Yemen? – examines the discrepancies between raw and adjusted sea level data in Aden, Karachi and Mumbai. . . ."
 
Jack Hays said:
I see we've now heard from the silly and shallow participants.

For those interested in substance:

". . . The whistle was blown by two Australian scientists Dr. Albert Parker and Dr. Clifford Ollier in a paper for Earth Systems and Environment.
The paper – Is the Sea Level Stable at Aden, Yemen? – examines the discrepancies between raw and adjusted sea level data in Aden, Karachi and Mumbai. . . ."
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I think we can safely file this under Ignore.

Albert Parker (aka Alberto Boretti - what is it with deniers and pseudonyms?) and Clifford Ollier already have form for mathematical incompetence published in predatory journals. There's no particular reason to start taking them seriously now (unless, of course, you're so desperate to support your right-wing ideology that you'll believe anything).
 
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Climate change people have been caught faking numbers before, they need to alarm people to stay employed. I don't see Miami, putting up retaining walls around the city, Obama is buying a house in Hi. I'm not worried.
 
Steve Case said:
From my daily search on Sea Level in the news:

Tidalgate: Climate Alarmists Caught Faking Sea Level Rise

Alarmist scientists have been caught red-handed tampering with
raw data in order to exaggerate sea level rise.
...
When alarmists in charge of surface temperature datasets make
dishonest adjustments to exaggerate the appearance of global
warming, it looks like corruption.

When alarmists in the entirely separate field of sea level measurement
make precisely the same sort of dishonest adjustments in order to
accord with the same global warming narrative, it starts to look
like a conspiracy.​
Breitbart.com​
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Glad to see your perusing the scientific journals for information about sea level. [emoji849]
 
Surface Detail said:
I think we can safely file this under Ignore.

Albert Parker (aka Alberto Boretti - what is it with deniers and pseudonyms?) and Clifford Ollier already have form for mathematical incompetence published in predatory journals. There's no particular reason to start taking them seriously now (unless, of course, you're so desperate to support your right-wing ideology that you'll believe anything).
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Hmmm. Is it necessarily right wing to believe raw data should get the benefit of the doubt over adjusted data?
 
longview said:
Breitbart is not science, but then they did not write the paper in question, simply reported on it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41748-017-0020-z
The paper does sounds like they have valid concerns of the linearity adjustments to the data.
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LOL. That journal isn’t science either, and is regularly discredited.

The author is a retired automotive engineer, and has no experience in oceanography.

But the deniers will swallow it while anyway, while they dismiss the Royal Academy because they ‘don’t know science’.

Jeez.

Energy and Environment (Journal) | DeSmogBlog


Page not found | DeSmogBlog
 
Threegoofs said:
LOL. That journal isn’t science either, and is regularly discredited.

The author is a retired automotive engineer, and has no experience in oceanography.

But the deniers will swallow it while anyway, while they dismiss the Royal Academy because they ‘don’t know science’.

Jeez.

Energy and Environment (Journal) | DeSmogBlog


Page not found | DeSmogBlog
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Given the efforts to corrupt mainstream journals as revealed in Climategate, it's a good thing alternatives exist.
 
Jack Hays said:
Hmmm. Is it necessarily right wing to believe raw data should get the benefit of the doubt over adjusted data?
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The dogma that data adjustment is some sort of nefarious plot by scientists to deceive regular folk rather than a necessary step to extract meaning from data certainly seems to be a common right-wing delusion.
 
graeme104 said:
How to discredit yourself 101
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It's cute how you libruls out of hand reject conservative news sources while accepting all liberal sources which have been caught faking news.
 
Jack Hays said:
Given the efforts to corrupt mainstream journals as revealed in Climategate, it's a good thing alternatives exist.
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If you're an AGW denier who is keen to publish mathematically flawed propaganda, then yes, the existence of alternative journals with negligible peer review is fantastic. For science in general it's not so great.
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's cute how you libruls out of hand reject conservative news sources while accepting all liberal sources which have been caught faking news.
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I don't accept liberal sources that have been caught faking news. I know about the bias of sources such as CNN or the Washington Post. It's cute how you conservatives accept news sources such as Breitbart or Fox News which is really more conspiracy hatemongering and Trump fanboying than actual news while rejecting news sources that are known to be as objective as possible such as BBC or NYT.
 
Jack Hays said:
I see we've now heard from the silly and shallow participants.
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Immediately resorting to ad hominem attacks? I are dissapoint.
 
Tidalgate: Climate Alarmists Caught Faking Sea Level Rise

The article says:
But after the evidence had been adjusted by tidal records gatekeepers
at the global databank Permanent Service for Mean Sea Level (PSMSL)
it suddenly showed a sharp and dramatic rise.
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And:
In Aden, for example, the alarmists have turned a modest 1.21 mm/year rise into a 3.02 mm/year rise.
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I've looked at the PSMSL data
Data and Station Information for ADEN
and I don't find 3.02 mm/yr for Aden

But, if you go to NOAA
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html
and click on Aden, Yemen

Yemen NOAA Adjustment.jpg

There it is: 3.02 mm/yr

It's not the PSMSL that has dinked with the data, it's NOAA.
 
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