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...Push to Drill in the Arctic Refuge

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From the story:

Congress is considering a budget bill that permits oil drilling throughout the coastal plain of the Arctic Refuge. With Republicans controlling the executive and legislative branches of government, proponents like Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski believe now is the best chance in decades to develop the refuge.

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The Alaska Pipeline is now pushing far less oil through its pipe than engineers in the 1970s designed the system to handle.

How the Alaska Pipeline Is Fueling the Push to Drill in the Arctic Refuge

Seems to me the oil does need to remain flowing strong in the pipeline, else shut it down.

Looks like it's time to "Drill baby drill..."
 
From the story:

Congress is considering a budget bill that permits oil drilling throughout the coastal plain of the Arctic Refuge. With Republicans controlling the executive and legislative branches of government, proponents like Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski believe now is the best chance in decades to develop the refuge.

----

The Alaska Pipeline is now pushing far less oil through its pipe than engineers in the 1970s designed the system to handle.

How the Alaska Pipeline Is Fueling the Push to Drill in the Arctic Refuge

Seems to me the oil does need to remain flowing strong in the pipeline, else shut it down.

Looks like it's time to "Drill baby drill..."

Agreed. As long of oil is still the lifeblood of the world's economies, the more we can produce here, the less goes to fund radical islamic terrorism.
 
From the story:

Congress is considering a budget bill that permits oil drilling throughout the coastal plain of the Arctic Refuge. With Republicans controlling the executive and legislative branches of government, proponents like Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski believe now is the best chance in decades to develop the refuge.

----

The Alaska Pipeline is now pushing far less oil through its pipe than engineers in the 1970s designed the system to handle.

How the Alaska Pipeline Is Fueling the Push to Drill in the Arctic Refuge

Seems to me the oil does need to remain flowing strong in the pipeline, else shut it down.

Looks like it's time to "Drill baby drill..."

Let's hope it comes to pass.
 
No surprise that those who are doing their best to convince us that AGW isn't an issue are also the keenest to expand fossil fuel production! :roll:
 
No surprise that those who are doing their best to convince us that AGW isn't an issue are also the keenest to expand fossil fuel production! :roll:

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And, you make his point.
 
From the story:

Congress is considering a budget bill that permits oil drilling throughout the coastal plain of the Arctic Refuge. With Republicans controlling the executive and legislative branches of government, proponents like Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski believe now is the best chance in decades to develop the refuge.

----

The Alaska Pipeline is now pushing far less oil through its pipe than engineers in the 1970s designed the system to handle.

How the Alaska Pipeline Is Fueling the Push to Drill in the Arctic Refuge

Seems to me the oil does need to remain flowing strong in the pipeline, else shut it down.

Looks like it's time to "Drill baby drill..."

Ask the people in the gulf how drill baby drill worked for them. I bet you didn't see those bumper stickers around down there very much anymore.
 
Really? And that would be because . . . . ?

He mentioned that the people who are climate change deniers push fossil fuels, and then you make a post pushing fossil fuels. Now, isn't that amazing?

You made his point.
 
He mentioned that the people who are climate change deniers push fossil fuels, and then you make a post pushing fossil fuels. Now, isn't that amazing?

You made his point.

Not really. The fact he chose to make a connection (and a point by innuendo) does not in any way restrict my freedom to make a valid point.
 
Not really. The fact he chose to make a connection (and a point by innuendo) does not in any way restrict my freedom to make a valid point.

Of course you can try to do that, but the timing in response to his claim demonstrats his point, since you posted a book written by someone who gave a lot of misinformation. It makes his point quote completely.
 
Of course you can try to do that, but the timing in response to his claim demonstrats his point, since you posted a book written by someone who gave a lot of misinformation. It makes his point quote completely.

And there you have it. I think that book is factual and accurate.
 
As places to polute the arctic seems the least worth trying to save.

Less life, loads of space, no people, who cares?
 
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Seems to me the oil does need to remain flowing strong in the pipeline, else shut it down.
Erm.... That doesn't sound like a valid reason to despoil a major wildlife preserve. In fact, it sounds completely backwards. If we actually need the pipeline, it should be maintained; if it no longer has a use, or it can't be adjusted for lower flow, then maybe it's time to shut it down.


Looks like it's time to "Drill baby drill..."
Uh, hello? Have you not looked at the price of oil lately? It's at 1/3 its peak.

There is very little evidence of interest by energy companies to drill in ANWR. It's as remote as it gets, which makes extraction expensive. Meanwhile, current production in Alaska has fallen since its peak in 1988; Shell shut down operations in the Chukchi Sea; oil prices have gone through the floor, to 1/3 of their peak; supply is abundant (including domestic sources); and demand is eroding. Demand for natural gas and renewables are high, even as oil is cheap.

This is mostly just Murkowski's fantasy of a rebound for the oil industry.
 
As places to polute the arctic seems the least worth trying to save.

Less life, loads of space, no people, who cares?
Yes, we should just turn a pristine wilderness into a gigantic garbage dump because there aren't any people living there. :roll:
 
Erm.... That doesn't sound like a valid reason to despoil a major wildlife preserve. In fact, it sounds completely backwards. If we actually need the pipeline, it should be maintained; if it no longer has a use, or it can't be adjusted for lower flow, then maybe it's time to shut it down.

The area needed is very, very small compared to that vast wilderness in ANWR. I think your concern is unrealistically alarmist.
 
Yes, we should just turn a pristine wilderness into a gigantic garbage dump because there aren't any people living there. :roll:

You can drop a gigantic garbage dump into the Arctic tunda may times over and have no significant impact on it. Still loads of it left.
 
You can drop a gigantic garbage dump into the Arctic tunda may times over and have no significant impact on it. Still loads of it left.

I think if we took a large city like Los Angeles and mandated the same percentage of city space be used to create a new park, that drilling in ANWR would use as a percentage of ANWR, that the park might be 5 square feet in size.
 
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