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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Australia is worst casualty of Paris: Big hit to GDP, wages, dollar, trade balance for nothing


    Australia Wins The Global Patsy Award 2019

    The Brookings Institute released a report that claims everyone is better off economically by sticking to Paris, but check out the devastating graphs. Economically, everyone is a loser, but the three biggest losers are Australia, Russia and OPEC.
    Australia is doing more, paying more, suffering more and yet will make almost no difference to the global emissions tally in anything other than a purely symbolic impress-your-dinner–guests kind of way.
    If Australia left the Paris Agreement, even the left leaning Brookings Institute can’t find much difference in total global man-made emissions. Australia is forcing the renewables transformation faster than anywhere else, it will lose GDP, wages, jobs, investment, and the dollar will fall. All that, and no one could even tell the difference between Paris with Australia, and Paris without.
    Clearly Australian negotiators at the UN are incompetent on a whole new scale. If they had Australian’s interests at heart, even a little bit, they would have done this study themselves, and gone to Paris with some realistic comparative data to argue that we are cutting too fast and paying too much. Finalists for most useless Global Negotiator of the Decade are Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard and Julie Bishop. Wayne Swan, treasurer of the year, deserves a mention.
    Australians basically walked in to Paris and said “hit me”. . . .
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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    OK, here it is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ana#Coal-Fired

    So what, I grabbed the wrong link. I had the right one in the first place when I looked it up saying it was less that 25%. Not my fault you were too lazy to verify what you posted to begin with.
    The link is for all of Indiana not just Northern Indiana Public Service Company and from Wikipedia. While also the data is from 2009 and doesn't state how much of the capacity that is actually used. While I have provide a direct link to Northern Indiana Public Service Company there it states that they will reduce carbon emission with more than 90 percent.

    https://www.nipsco.com/your-energy
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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Australia is worst casualty of Paris: Big hit to GDP, wages, dollar, trade balance for nothing


    Australia Wins The Global Patsy Award 2019

    The Brookings Institute released a report that claims everyone is better off economically by sticking to Paris, but check out the devastating graphs. Economically, everyone is a loser, but the three biggest losers are Australia, Russia and OPEC.
    Australia is doing more, paying more, suffering more and yet will make almost no difference to the global emissions tally in anything other than a purely symbolic impress-your-dinner–guests kind of way.
    If Australia left the Paris Agreement, even the left leaning Brookings Institute can’t find much difference in total global man-made emissions. Australia is forcing the renewables transformation faster than anywhere else, it will lose GDP, wages, jobs, investment, and the dollar will fall. All that, and no one could even tell the difference between Paris with Australia, and Paris without.
    Clearly Australian negotiators at the UN are incompetent on a whole new scale. If they had Australian’s interests at heart, even a little bit, they would have done this study themselves, and gone to Paris with some realistic comparative data to argue that we are cutting too fast and paying too much. Finalists for most useless Global Negotiator of the Decade are Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard and Julie Bishop. Wayne Swan, treasurer of the year, deserves a mention.
    Australians basically walked in to Paris and said “hit me”. . . .
    Here is a link about how renewables are making electricity cheaper in Australia.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...21-p50nnq.html

    You also have UK that have drastically reduced it's coal consumption and will close its last coal plant in 2025.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...nts-close-2025

    While Denmark got 43 percent of their electricity from wind power in 2017 and also plan to get 80 percent of electricity from renewables in 2020.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/01/06...-records-2017/

    There all three countries ranks higher than US on Forbes best country for business list.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...21-p50nnq.html

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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    The link is for all of Indiana not just Northern Indiana Public Service Company and from Wikipedia. While also the data is from 2009 and doesn't state how much of the capacity that is actually used. While I have provide a direct link to Northern Indiana Public Service Company there it states that they will reduce carbon emission with more than 90 percent.

    https://www.nipsco.com/your-energy
    The original claim was the state. Stop moving the goal line. You said "Even Republican coal states like Indiana are replacing coal with renewable energy." One energu company is only a part of their power. As long as they can buy power from other utilities, it's nothing but a PR scam.

    You lefties fall for PR scams so easily.

    And I must have grabbed the wrong state at first. Indiana has more than double the generation I first stated which puts the new renewable you champion at under 12%.

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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    The link is for all of Indiana not just Northern Indiana Public Service Company and from Wikipedia. While also the data is from 2009 and doesn't state how much of the capacity that is actually used. While I have provide a direct link to Northern Indiana Public Service Company there it states that they will reduce carbon emission with more than 90 percent.

    https://www.nipsco.com/your-energy
    It's easy for some places to reduce carbon emissions, and hard for others. You have to look at the whole picture and stop cherry picking.

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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Here is a link about how renewables are making electricity cheaper in Australia.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...21-p50nnq.html

    You also have UK that have drastically reduced it's coal consumption and will close its last coal plant in 2025.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...nts-close-2025

    While Denmark got 43 percent of their electricity from wind power in 2017 and also plan to get 80 percent of electricity from renewables in 2020.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/01/06...-records-2017/

    There all three countries ranks higher than US on Forbes best country for business list.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...21-p50nnq.html
    The link in #2151 is about economic damage, not electricity cost.
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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    wind power
    Wind turbines are neither clean nor green and they provide zero global energy

    From The Spectator We urgently need to stop the ecological posturing and invest in gas and nuclear Matt Ridley The Global Wind Energy Council recently released its latest report, excitedly boasting that ‘the proliferation of wind energy into the global power market continues at a furious pace, after it was revealed that more than 54…
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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    [FONT="]wind power[/FONT]
    Wind turbines are neither clean nor green and they provide zero global energy

    [FONT="]From The Spectator We urgently need to stop the ecological posturing and invest in gas and nuclear Matt Ridley The Global Wind Energy Council recently released its latest report, excitedly boasting that ‘the proliferation of wind energy into the global power market continues at a furious pace, after it was revealed that more than 54…
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    Such numbers are not hard to find, but they don’t figure prominently in reports on energy derived from the unreliables lobby (solar and wind).
    Like the definition.

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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    [FONT="]wind power[/FONT]
    Wind turbines are neither clean nor green and they provide zero global energy

    From The Spectator We urgently need to stop the ecological posturing and invest in gas and nuclear Matt Ridley The Global Wind Energy Council recently released its latest report, excitedly boasting that ‘the proliferation of wind energy into the global power market continues at a furious pace, after it was revealed that more than 54…
    What gets me is how do people think they can take energy out of the climate, and not change it?

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    Re: Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    What gets me is how do people think they can take energy out of the climate, and not change it?
    The proportion of human energy use to what hapens in nature is microscopic. The level at which such things can be measured is very small and still I don't think you would find any practicle changes.

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