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The End of the Internal Combustion Engine?

Don't worry, my paranoid JACKIE boy. You'll be able to drive your roadster for the rest of your life. You can probably even will it to your children and grandchildren, and they'll be able to drive it throughout their lives.

Working on the FREEDOMs angle now? The evil left is going to take away your hot rods...
 
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Even the Model S outdoes a Ferrari F50, and it's a four door sedan. I think sports car enthusiasts are going to love electric cars.


More in topic, electric propulsion is just fundamentally superior technology to internal combustion engines. Electric motors have energy losses below ten percent, sometimes in the one percent range. Gas engines lose more like 75-80%. Gas engines only still exist due to the energy density of their fuel source.

Electric propulsion is inevitable, it's just a matter of time regarding the battery technology. Double the energy density of lithium ion, halve the weight, and halve the cost, and you've got yourself a multi trillion dollar invention. World changing stuff. That's a large jump from what we have now, but I think we will get there. Graphene is basically magic, right? I bet someone will be able to make a battery with graphene ;)
 
Don't worry, my paranoid JACKIE boy. You'll be able to drive your roadster for the rest of your life. You can probably even will it to your children and grandchildren, and they'll be able to drive it throughout their lives.

Working on the FREEDOMs angle now? The evil left is going to take away your hot rods...

Well, no. The end of the internal combustion engine is an inevitable and probably a healthy thing. Unlike you, I don't bring a political axe to grind on every issue. As for my roadster, I hope you're right, and I've already told my children I hope it stays in the family.

When the automobile replaced horses I believe it was permitted to welcome the new technology while also remembering fondly the enjoyment of the old.
 
Well, no. The end of the internal combustion engine is an inevitable and probably a healthy thing. Unlike you, I don't bring a political axe to grind on every issue. As for my roadster, I hope you're right, and I've already told my children I hope it stays in the family.

When the automobile replaced horses I believe it was permitted to welcome the new technology while also remembering fondly the enjoyment of the old.

Let me know when you get fined for something battery or engine related.
 
I have no idea what the point of that was.

When the automobile replaced horses I believe it was permitted to welcome the new technology while also remembering fondly the enjoyment of the old.

Your implication here is that your opinion is "not permitted" now.

Put up a sign on your lawn saying "I LOVE COAL WOOO." Turns out, you're permitted to do that.
 
Your implication here is that your opinion is "not permitted" now.

Put up a sign on your lawn saying "I LOVE COAL WOOO." Turns out, you're permitted to do that.

There was no such implication. Only your prejudice. IIRC I was replying to another prejudiced post.
 
Your implication here is that your opinion is "not permitted" now.

Put up a sign on your lawn saying "I LOVE COAL WOOO." Turns out, you're permitted to do that.

Please see #27, which began that exchange. That post and yours are fine examples of prejudice leading a poster astray.
 
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[h=2]Save the world with internal combustion engines[/h]
[h=3]Who cares about 50% more emissions?[/h]
China is powered by 65% coal.
A new study in China compares cars with internal combustion engines to electric cars. Qiao et al estimate that from cradle-to-gate electric cars use about 50% more energy and produce around 50% more emissions. (Thanks to Kenneth Richards at NoTricksZone.)
All Greens should hereby recycle their EV and buy a gas guzzler.
This is not even “lifetime costs” which include disposal.
These results will come as no surprise to people who remember the detailed study in Norway of 2012 which found that “…in regions where fossil fuels are the main sources of power, electric cars offer no benefits and may even cause more harm, the report said.”
In China, these electric cars are powered by 65% coal. Call them “coal-fired-cars”.
The largest single difference was with the battery.
Below, marvel at the results of the Chinese study. (ICE means Internal Combustion Engine. BEV means Battery Electric Vehicle.)
Not. Even. Close.
If you think CO2 matters, oil powered cars beat coal powered ones.
ICE = Internal Combustion Engine: BEV = Battery Electric Vehicle. By every measure Electric cars use more energy and emit more CO2.
Even if electric vehicles are powered by the wind, there are other costs. For the UK to power a national electric fleet they’d have to turn Scotland into a wind farm. (We need stationary batteries to supply the mobile batteries. Add up the losses.) In Australia there are estimates that each extra electric car could cost another $2000 per year in network and generation costs. (Let’s add that to the registration cost for an EV shall we?)
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