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longview said:
I agree Coal's dirty has little to do with CO2.
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Can you please address my point about coal's non-carbon pollution? Like arsenic, mercury, and lead? And why conservatives don't seem to mind it?
 
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Phys251 said:
Can you please address my point about coal's non-carbon pollution? Like arsenic, mercury, and lead? And why conservatives don't seem to mind it?
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I cannot tell you why others might find coal acceptable, other than we have a lot of it, and some feel the
technological advances have cleaned it up to an acceptable level.
I have lived near a coal plant, and am not sure it will ever be really clean.
They have cleaned up a lot since the early 80's but, I suspect there is a point of diminishing returns.
 
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Phys251 said:
Oh, right, wanting to protect the environment is political now. Can't have clean air, clean water, or any of that other socialist stuff. :roll:
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Of course we can and do. My suspicion is that at present Americans have much more clean nature than anywhere in Europe West of the Russian boarder.
 
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longview said:
I am not sure carbon neutrality is unreachable in agriculture with today's technology (well maybe next decade's)
Based on published efficiencies from Audi/Starfire, and the Naval Research Labs, 1 acre of solar panels
could produce about 6,400 gallons of carbon neutral fuel per year.
The Beef and grass and grains are all short cycle carbon neutral anyway, the thing that makes them not carbon neutral
is the fossil fuels used in the operations, plowing, planting, harvesting, ect.
If those operations used a carbon neutral fuel, new carbon emissions could be reduced to near zero.
I think this will all happen when oil gets to about $90 a barrel again, which would relate to about $3.50 a gallon gasoline.
Perhaps the refineries could work a deal with the ranchers to place solar panels over some fields in a way to allow
the grass to still grow, in exchange for farm fuel credits.
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Oh. We can get agriculture carbon neutral. The problem is that we would habe to remove meat from middle class tables guven today's level of tech.
 
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joG said:
Oh. We can get agriculture carbon neutral. The problem is that we would habe to remove meat from middle class tables guven today's level of tech.
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I do not think the two things are mutually exclusive.
 
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longview said:
I cannot tell you why others might find coal acceptable, other than we have a lot of it, and some feel the
technological advances have cleaned it up to an acceptable level.
I have lived near a coal plant, and am not sure it will ever be really clean.
They have cleaned up a lot since the early 80's but, I suspect there is a point of diminishing returns.
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When you are ready to address my concerns about coal's non-carbon pollution, feel free to let me know. I'll be waiting.
 
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longview said:
I do not think the two things are mutually exclusive.
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Fine. Now let's ask the middle classes. ;)
 
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