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Why are US scientific agencies still pushing AGW?

Small tiny problem with that theory is A. CO2 has a limiter on it in the form of something called plants and plant life, you might have heard of those. B. CO2 is a fraction of a percent of the total mass of the gas mix we call air, hence for there to be observable, and quantifiable effect would require massive change in the mass fraction of the air mix of CO2. (Note natural sources out strip humans by a very large margin in producing CO2.) C. Thirdly and definitely not least is science cannot possibly tell if the rate change of C02 is NOT normal and part of the normal cycle with anything remotely close to certainty simply because of the coarseness of past data. We have a good idea what normal CO2 levels tend to be and they vary widely from 140ppm to 7000+ppm. That's a fairly wide band not mention the rate changes we are seeing have occurred before as you yourself have pointed out, as best the current state of the science can tell. Last I checked we didn't have any SUV's way back then. We have a good idea of what the range of the normal cycle numbers should be, problem is we are well within range of the channel those numbers form and therefore the climate we have now is for all intents and purposes is normal. For the climate to abnormal the currant climates measurements have to be beyond the current channel to have a reasonable argument to say that there IS a problem A. and B. we might be the cause of it.

I am not burying my head in the sand. I am being skeptical of shoddy "scientific" arguments used to try and impact my life and take my money. Remember way back when the ozone hole was this huge thing and that we have to do something about it. So we had to use different Freon and change out propellants in canned spray products. Well turns out that whole deal was bull****. Fool me once.

By the way the hottest years on record meme is just that a meme. It has no basis in fact. Here something to read. https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

Greetings, PirateMK1. :2wave:

Excellent well thought out post! :thumbs:

IIRC, I recently read that the "pause," after taking a little "El Nino vacation time" - LOL, has resumed. Could that mean that AGW warming is really not a problem, since many scientists at various universities are stating that it is more likely that we may be entering into a period of cooling instead, similar to what occurred in the Maunder Minimum of several hundred years ago when there was very little sunspot activity?
Interesting.....
 
If your second claim were true you would not have posted such nonsense.

Federal agencies are managed by the Executive Branch, until 20 January 2017 under control of the Dems. While Congress authorizes and appropriates funds, the Executive manages and allocates budgets. You won't see full GOP spending control until FY 2018 begins on 1 October 2017.

Nonsense....I must be getting to you with the facts. Here are some more. The president can fire the head of any agency that promotes a theory he does not agree with. Yet NASA, NOAA, and the National Academy of Science all still promote AGW. Do you think the GOP just got control of the budget in the last election? Try 2014. LOL
 
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Nonsense....I must be getting to you with the facts. Here are some more. The president can fire the head of any agency that promotes a theory he does not agree with. Yet NASA, NOAA, and the National Academy of Science all still promote AGW. Do you think the GOP just got control of the budget in the last election? Try 2014. LOL

You really don't understand. Until 20 January 2017 those agency heads reported to Obama.
 
conservatives are the only people on the planet that deny climate change and it's no coincidence that their party is owned by big oil.
 
You really don't understand. Until 20 January 2017 those agency heads reported to Obama.

And who wrote their budgets? Congress can direct how EVERY penny of NASA's dollars are spent. They could eliminate all AGW spending and Obama could not stop them. How can you not know this?
 
And who wrote their budgets? Congress can direct how EVERY penny of NASA's dollars are spent. They could eliminate all AGW spending and Obama could not stop them. How can you not know this?

Congress does not write a single executive agency budget. Congress authorizes and appropriates. The budget process begins every year with submission of the President's Budget, which includes the respective agencies' individual budgets. The President's Budget then proceeds to the House (and then the Senate) for authorization and appropriation. Congress has influence, but does not direct how every penny is spent. That's a grade school fantasy.
 
Congress does not write a single executive agency budget. Congress authorizes and appropriates. The budget process begins every year with submission of the President's Budget, which includes the respective agencies' individual budgets. The President's Budget then proceeds to the House (and then the Senate) for authorization and appropriation. Congress has influence, but does not direct how every penny is spent. That's a grade school fantasy.

Oh my god. They can write a law that dictates how an agency spends its budget. Theye did it for the CDC with gun research.
 
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Jack, You show an extent of unparallel misinformed information, with your continual references to What's Up with That. Founded by an individual with no climate science education, it is nothing more than a fossil fuel industry puppet organization. You mentioned that you were retired. Could your employment have been through this same fossil fuel industry? In any case, perhaps you could expand your horizons to some more legitimate sources.
 
Jack, You show an extent of unparallel misinformed information, with your continual references to What's Up with That. Founded by an individual with no climate science education, it is nothing more than a fossil fuel industry puppet organization. You mentioned that you were retired. Could your employment have been through this same fossil fuel industry? In any case, perhaps you could expand your horizons to some more legitimate sources.

It is simply a lie to claim WUWT has any fossil fuel industry connection. On that basis I draw a conclusion about you.
My career was with the federal government. There is a bit more about that in my Profile.
 
It is simply a lie to claim WUWT has any fossil fuel industry connection. On that basis I draw a conclusion about you.
My career was with the federal government. There is a bit more about that in my Profile.

WUWT has a well-established fossil fuel industry connection through the Heartland Institute. But that's another subject. Watts has no climatologist education. He is a liar, who has lied repeatedly about climate scientist's claims to be using renewable power. He has one agenda - put out lies and misinformation about climate change, using his ZERO knowledge and education against the 98% of climatologists who support global warming, and mankind's contribution.
 
WUWT has a well-established fossil fuel industry connection through the Heartland Institute. But that's another subject. Watts has no climatologist education. He is a liar, who has lied repeatedly about climate scientist's claims to be using renewable power. He has one agenda - put out lies and misinformation about climate change, using his ZERO knowledge and education against the 98% of climatologists who support global warming, and mankind's contribution.

The claim of a fossil fuel industry connection via the Heartland Institute is a lie, and is propagated only by liars. The allegations against Watts re renewable power use are petty to the point of ridiculousness. Your resort to such small-bore ammunition does more than I could do to illustrate the emptiness of your dishonest claims.
 
The claim of a fossil fuel industry connection via the Heartland Institute is a lie, and is propagated only by liars. The allegations against Watts re renewable power use are petty to the point of ridiculousness. Your resort to such small-bore ammunition does more than I could do to illustrate the emptiness of your dishonest claims.

Watts is a crony for the heartland institute

The Heartland Institute published Watts' preliminary report on weather station data, titled Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?[53] Watts has appeared as a paid speaker at the International Conference on Climate Change the Heartland Institute have sponsored since 2008.[12]

Watts says that he approached Heartland in 2011 to ask for help finding a donor to set up a website devoted to presenting NOAA's data as graphs that are easily accessible to the public.[13][65] Documents obtained from the Heartland Institute in February 2012 revealed that the Institute had agreed to help Watts raise $88,000 for his project.[66][67][68] The documents state that $44,000 had already been pledged by an anonymous donor, and the Institute would seek to raise the rest.[12]
 
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