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Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Arctic

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I believe this is something that does not happen often

Scientists have located two fresh craters formed on Yamal peninsula this year, with the latest exploding on 28 June with the eruption picked up by new seismic sensors specifically designed to monitor such events, The Siberian Times can disclose.

First pictures of the large craters - or funnels as experts call them - are shown here, and add to four other big holes found in recent years and examined by experts, plus dozens of tiny ones spotted by satellite.

The formation of both craters involved an explosion followed by fire, evidently signs of the eruption of methane gas pockets under the Yamal surface.

People in Seyakha village heard a 'loud explosion-like bang' then saw a fire and clouds of black smoke, according to reports.
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'Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in the Arctic


These pockets of methane gas were probably covered by ice but were uncovered when whatever above it was removed.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Unitedwestand13 said:
I believe this is something that does not happen often



'Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in the Arctic


These pockets of methane gas were probably covered by ice but were uncovered when whatever above it was removed.
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When one looks at the pocked marked features of the area, one has to assume these are not new events.
https://www.google.com/maps/@69.9593492,71.8547876,35138m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

"What happened here!?"

"Eh, the ground exploded."

Nature can be pretty metal.
 
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Jack Hays said:
They are called pingos and they are common.
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I'm not finding any evidence that they explode. Here's a You Tube on Pingo formation:

 
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Steve Case said:
I'm not finding any evidence that they explode. Here's a You Tube on Pingo formation:

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[h=3]Siberia Has Installed Its First 'Exploding Pingo Detector' - Atlas Obscura[/h]www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pingo-detector-siberia-methane-bubble



Apr 11, 2017 - Don't be fooled by its cute name—pingos can do some serious damage. Common in Arctic permafrost, a pingo looks, from the outside, like a ...



[h=3]First seismic sensor installed to give early warning on new 'exploding ...[/h]siberiantimes.com/.../first-seismic-sensor-installed-to-give-early-warning-on-new-expl...



Apr 11, 2017 - Pingos are dome-shaped mounds over a core of ice. At least ten are known to have exploded in Siberia in recent years forming large craters.


 
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Jack Hays said:
Siberia Has Installed Its First 'Exploding Pingo Detector' - Atlas Obscura

Siberia Has Installed Its First 'Exploding Pingo Detector' - Atlas Obscura

Apr 11, 2017 - Don't be fooled by its cute name—pingos can do some serious damage. Common in Arctic permafrost, a pingo looks, from the outside, like a ...

First seismic sensor installed to give early warning on new 'exploding ...

siberiantimes.com/.../first-seismic-sensor-installed-to-give-early-warning-on-new-expl...

Apr 11, 2017 - Pingos are dome-shaped mounds over a core of ice. At least ten are known to have exploded in Siberia in recent years forming large craters.
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I don't believe anything I read in the popular press or the internet unless
I have good reason to do so. And I don't have good reason to believe that
pingos explode in flames. I'll change my mind when I see hard evidence.
Like an actual video or fresh clods of smoking tundra thrown about.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Steve Case said:
I don't believe anything I read in the popular press or the internet unless
I have good reason to do so. And I don't have good reason to believe that
pingos explode in flames.
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Methane is highly flammable

The funnels contained lots of methane

It is far from outlandish to think that when the funnel erupted, there was enough heat/energy/sparks to start a fire


I'll change my mind when I see hard evidence.
Like an actual video or fresh clods of smoking tundra thrown about.
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"People in Seyakha village heard a 'loud explosion-like bang' then saw a fire and clouds of black smoke, according to reports. Deputy director of the Oil and Gas Research Institute, Moscow, Professor Vasily Bogoyavlensky said: 'We heard the news (about the new crater) from a friend who saw a flame of fire and then a rising pillar of smoke.'"

I.e. there are multiple witnesses who saw flames and smoke. I can't imagine why you would deny it.
 
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Steve Case said:
I don't believe anything I read in the popular press or the internet unless
I have good reason to do so. And I don't have good reason to believe that
pingos explode in flames. I'll change my mind when I see hard evidence.
Like an actual video or fresh clods of smoking tundra thrown about.
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As you wish.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Unitedwestand13 said:
I believe this is something that does not happen often



'Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in the Arctic


These pockets of methane gas were probably covered by ice but were uncovered when whatever above it was removed.
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Maybe not often, but it is the history of that region for a very long time now. Just look at google maps:

deleteme.jpg

Click on the pic for the link.
 
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Visbek said:
How does looking at a recent satellite photo tell you the age of those formations...?
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The weathering of the edges! some are new, most have been affected by time.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Unitedwestand13 said:
I believe this is something that does not happen often



'Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in the Arctic


These pockets of methane gas were probably covered by ice but were uncovered when whatever above it was removed.
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I have heard that the "outgassing" of all of the GHG's occur when the frozen ground thaws.

As the warming continues, this could be the onset of an exciting new set of sea lanes for commerce and travel.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Steve Case said:
I don't believe anything I read in the popular press or the internet unless
I have good reason to do so. And I don't have good reason to believe that
pingos explode in flames. I'll change my mind when I see hard evidence.
Like an actual video or fresh clods of smoking tundra thrown about.
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That's probably a very good vetting process.

"Don't believe anything you read on the internet"
-Abraham Lincoln.
 
Re: Big bang' and 'pillar of fire' as latest of two new craters forms this week in Ar

Steve Case said:
Here's a link that seems to lean a little bit more towards the common sense
side of the spectrum, although it gives some lip service to the Climate Change
insanity:

Siberian Crater Mystery: Are Exploding Gas Pockets Really to Blame?
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[h=1]New pictures of the hole in Yamal – and Pingo was its name-o[/h]
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/18/new-pictures-of-the-hole-in-yamal-and-pingo-was-its-name-o/
 
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