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US Wind Energy Continues to Boom

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The US wind energy market continues to boom. Iowa became the first state to produce over 30% of their power from wind. Full report:

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/1Q2017 AWEA Market Report Public Version.pdf

The U.S. wind industry installed 2,000 megawatts (MW) during the first quarter of 2017, a 385%
increase from the first quarter of 2016 and the second strongest first quarter on record. The addition
of North Carolina’s first utility-scale wind project brings U.S. installed wind power capacity
to 84,143 MW across 41 states.
Project developers reported a combined 20,977 MW of wind capacity under construction or in
advanced development, with 4,466 MW in combined new announcements. There are now 9,025
MW under construction and 11,952 MW in advanced development.
1,781 MW of power purchase agreements (PPA) were signed during the first quarter, the strongest
first quarter for PPA announcements since the beginning of 2013. Utilities also announced
1,150 MW of planned wind capacity additions under direct ownership.
 
Media_Truth said:
The US wind energy market continues to boom. Iowa became the first state to produce over 30% of their power from wind. Full report:

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/1Q2017 AWEA Market Report Public Version.pdf

The U.S. wind industry installed 2,000 megawatts (MW) during the first quarter of 2017, a 385%
increase from the first quarter of 2016 and the second strongest first quarter on record. The addition
of North Carolina’s first utility-scale wind project brings U.S. installed wind power capacity
to 84,143 MW across 41 states.
Project developers reported a combined 20,977 MW of wind capacity under construction or in
advanced development, with 4,466 MW in combined new announcements. There are now 9,025
MW under construction and 11,952 MW in advanced development.
1,781 MW of power purchase agreements (PPA) were signed during the first quarter, the strongest
first quarter for PPA announcements since the beginning of 2013. Utilities also announced
1,150 MW of planned wind capacity additions under direct ownership.
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There is ongoing research the wind and solar complement each other, and make the overall supply better.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/wind-and-solar-are-better-together/
 
Media_Truth said:
The US wind energy market continues to boom. Iowa became the first state to produce over 30% of their power from wind. Full report:

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/1Q2017 AWEA Market Report Public Version.pdf

The U.S. wind industry installed 2,000 megawatts (MW) during the first quarter of 2017, a 385%
increase from the first quarter of 2016 and the second strongest first quarter on record. The addition
of North Carolina’s first utility-scale wind project brings U.S. installed wind power capacity
to 84,143 MW across 41 states.
Project developers reported a combined 20,977 MW of wind capacity under construction or in
advanced development, with 4,466 MW in combined new announcements. There are now 9,025
MW under construction and 11,952 MW in advanced development.
1,781 MW of power purchase agreements (PPA) were signed during the first quarter, the strongest
first quarter for PPA announcements since the beginning of 2013. Utilities also announced
1,150 MW of planned wind capacity additions under direct ownership.
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How many generators powered by conventional fuels were deactivated or shut down as a result of this?
 
Media_Truth said:
The US wind energy market continues to boom. Iowa became the first state to produce over 30% of their power from wind. Full report:

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/1Q2017 AWEA Market Report Public Version.pdf

The U.S. wind industry installed 2,000 megawatts (MW) during the first quarter of 2017, a 385%
increase from the first quarter of 2016 and the second strongest first quarter on record. The addition
of North Carolina’s first utility-scale wind project brings U.S. installed wind power capacity
to 84,143 MW across 41 states.
Project developers reported a combined 20,977 MW of wind capacity under construction or in
advanced development, with 4,466 MW in combined new announcements. There are now 9,025
MW under construction and 11,952 MW in advanced development.
1,781 MW of power purchase agreements (PPA) were signed during the first quarter, the strongest
first quarter for PPA announcements since the beginning of 2013. Utilities also announced
1,150 MW of planned wind capacity additions under direct ownership.
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Capacity is not the same as production.
 
And solar power in the UK produced 25% of electricity in the country for a day last week, with another 10% generated from wind.

Earlier in the year, the UK had its first day ever not generating electricity from coal, which was the first time that has ever happened since basically electrical grids were invented.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-power-breaks-uk-records-thanks-sunny-weather

But, as we know, the UK has such great sunny weather that its perfect for solar generation, not like the US.


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code1211 said:
How many generators powered by conventional fuels were deactivated or shut down as a result of this?
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Are you asking me, or do you know something you want to share?
 
Threegoofs said:
And solar power in the UK produced 25% of electricity in the country for a day last week, with another 10% generated from wind.

Earlier in the year, the UK had its first day ever not generating electricity from coal, which was the first time that has ever happened since basically electrical grids were invented.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-power-breaks-uk-records-thanks-sunny-weather

But, as we know, the UK has such great sunny weather that its perfect for solar generation, not like the US.


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With all the coastline, is there any discussion in the UK, about offshore wind? Or do they research other theoretical renewable supplies, such as tidal wave energy, etc?
 
Threegoofs said:
And solar power in the UK produced 25% of electricity in the country for a day last week, with another 10% generated from wind.

Earlier in the year, the UK had its first day ever not generating electricity from coal, which was the first time that has ever happened since basically electrical grids were invented.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-power-breaks-uk-records-thanks-sunny-weather

But, as we know, the UK has such great sunny weather that its perfect for solar generation, not like the US.


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If wind is so good for the UK why do they pay roughly $.24 per Kwh? ( and I am not sure if that rate includes the VAT, or the annual charge.)
File:Electricity and gas prices, second half of year, 2013?15 (EUR per kWh) YB16.png - Statistics Explained
 
Media_Truth said:
Are you asking me, or do you know something you want to share?
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I was asking you.

I'm wondering if there is any savings in adding wind and solar to the grid.
 
US Wind Energy Continues to Boom
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a wind farm was a good thing for my hometown.

as for renewable energy in general, i think that solar panel roofs on new houses would be a net positive.
 
Media_Truth said:
Great Britain is not a resource-rich nation like the US. They also pay the equivalent of $5.50 per gallon for gasoline (2016 figures), vs $2.47 in the US.
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So how much does the wind in the UK cost? The point of my comment is that while they are generating more and more
of their electricity from wind, the price they pay for electricity seems to be raising.
Perhaps the cost of goods sold of wind generated electricity is not as good as has been stated.
 
Threegoofs said:
They have to import the wind from the Middle East.
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Trump and his supporters could supply them with all the hot air they need to last them for years.
 
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Media_Truth said:
The US wind energy market continues to boom. Iowa became the first state to produce over 30% of their power from wind. Full report:

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/1Q2017 AWEA Market Report Public Version.pdf

The U.S. wind industry installed 2,000 megawatts (MW) during the first quarter of 2017, a 385%
increase from the first quarter of 2016 and the second strongest first quarter on record. The addition
of North Carolina’s first utility-scale wind project brings U.S. installed wind power capacity
to 84,143 MW across 41 states.
Project developers reported a combined 20,977 MW of wind capacity under construction or in
advanced development, with 4,466 MW in combined new announcements. There are now 9,025
MW under construction and 11,952 MW in advanced development.
1,781 MW of power purchase agreements (PPA) were signed during the first quarter, the strongest
first quarter for PPA announcements since the beginning of 2013. Utilities also announced
1,150 MW of planned wind capacity additions under direct ownership.
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Shhhhh! Don't tell Trump and his supporters, but renewables are also generating more jobs than coal and gas:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/solar-energy-job-growth-2017-1
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/02/07/us-solar-jobs-2016/?source=dam

But how else you gonna hold US technology behind the rest of the world, keep from investing in new jobs, and destroy the environment, all at the same time?
 
I do like solar and wind but have several questions to ask...


1) Can enough wind turbines be built to make a massive dent in fossil fuels?

2) When we get to the point were each of us get 90% of our energy from wind/sun doesnt the grid become economically difficult to maintain?

3) Teslas roof is about $73,000 how does a homeowner afford that?
 
katzgar said:
I do like solar and wind but have several questions to ask...


1) Can enough wind turbines be built to make a massive dent in fossil fuels?

2) When we get to the point were each of us get 90% of our energy from wind/sun doesnt the grid become economically difficult to maintain?

3) Teslas roof is about $73,000 how does a homeowner afford that?
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1) with hydrocarbon energy storage technology, Solar can replace fossil fuels, it likely will be a gradual transition (as far as the energy source)
I expect quite a bit of Nuclear power in the early years.
2) Yes, but the large surpluses can be converted hydrocarbon fuels rather than wasted as heat.
I see the need for base load plants for many years. Solar eclipses demonstrate future problems.
https://www.ft.com/content/1e951508-2eae-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
3) A normal solar panel roof would cost about $20,000, The extra $53,000 for Tesla's roof only buys aesthetics.
At the $20,000 mark with the current $6,000 tax credit, the solar roof would be like buying a used car,
except this purchase could eliminate much of your electric bill.
https://www.wholesalesolar.com/1891...-with-solaredge-and-32x-astronergy-305-panels
 
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longview said:
1) with hydrocarbon energy storage technology, Solar can replace fossil fuels, it likely will be a gradual transition (as far as the energy source)
I expect quite a bit of Nuclear power in the early years.
2) Yes, but the large surpluses can be converted hydrocarbon fuels rather than wasted as heat.
I see the need for base load plants for many years. Solar eclipses demonstrate future problems.
https://www.ft.com/content/1e951508-2eae-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
3) A normal solar panel roof would cost about $20,000, The extra $53,000 for Tesla's roof only buys aesthetics.
At the $20,000 mark with the current $6,000 tax credit, the solar roof would be like buying a used car,
except this purchase could eliminate much of your electric bill.
https://www.wholesalesolar.com/1891...-with-solaredge-and-32x-astronergy-305-panels
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4) why do I rarely hear about geothermal?
 
katzgar said:
4) why do I rarely hear about geothermal?
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Good question. But research is being cut. So you will still continue to not be hearing much about it. We're going to just keep mining that coal and make America great again! So stop asking so many questions.
 
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ataraxia said:
Good question. But research is being cut. So you will still continue to not be hearing much about it. We're going to just keep mining that coal and make America great again! So stop asking so many questions.
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Coal is dying and everyone knows it! Coal has some real logistics problems.
This is just me, but coal started as a fuel at coal mines, as a water pump.
Coal's poor logistics will make it die the same way it started, close to the mine!
The cost of goods sold added from moving the coal to power plants, will mean only the very close
plants will be profitable.
 
ataraxia said:
Shhhhh! Don't tell Trump and his supporters, but renewables are also generating more jobs than coal and gas:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/solar-energy-job-growth-2017-1
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/02/07/us-solar-jobs-2016/?source=dam

But how else you gonna hold US technology behind the rest of the world, keep from investing in new jobs, and destroy the environment, all at the same time?
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I find:

Natural gas = 33.8%
Coal = 30.4%
Nuclear = 19.7%
Renewables (total) = 14.9%
Hydropower = 6.5%
Wind = 5.6%
Biomass = 1.5%
Solar = 0.9%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Petroleum = 0.6%
Other gases = 0.3%
Other nonrenewable sources = 0.3%
Pumped storage hydroelectricity = -0.2%4

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3​

Your links are to solar energy. So that means the labor costs
for less than one percent of the nation's electricity costs are
more than the cost to produce over 60 percent of U.S. power.

I am reminded of the Broken Window Fallacy
 
Threegoofs said:
I think you must have been ignoring the GOP party line the last few years.

GOP platform, which calls coal ‘clean’, would reverse decades of U.S. energy and climate policy - The Washington Post
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Why would I care about the GOP party line, I am a fiscal conservative, the Republicans are only slightly better than the Democrats.
No Coal has real logistics problems.
Consider this, A new NG pipeline is going to New England,
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=29032
Capacity is 342 Million cubic feet per day, The piece also mentions a new NG power plant,
that uses 115 million cubic feet of gas per day, and produces 674 Megawatts.
So from that one pipeline, they could produce 2 Gigawatts of electricity, close to the capacity of some large coal plants.
The difference is the pipeline, once complete can provides years of low cost transport, while the coal
plant requires the loading, transport and unloading of several long trains a day of coal.
One plant I know of runs through about 72,000,000 pounds of coal a day.
 
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