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Lowest ice cover ever at both poles[W:284]

Your denier blog citations have been laughed out of the discussion long ago.

From the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences
To understand Greenland’s ice of today researchers have to go far back into Earth’s history. The island’s lithosphere has hot depths which originate in its distant geological past and cause Greenland’s ice to rapidly flow and melt from below. An anomaly zone crosses Greenland from west to east where present-day flow of heat from the Earth’s interior is elevated. With this anomaly, an international team of geoscientists led by Irina Rogozhina and Alexey Petrunin from the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences could explain observations from radar and ice core drilling data that indicate a widespread melting beneath the ice sheet and increased sliding at the base of the ice that drives the rapid ice flow over a distance of 750 kilometres from the summit area of the Greenland ice sheet to the North Atlantic Ocean. . . .
 
Just read an article in Science about the impact of orbital geometry, specifically eccentricity, obliquity, and precession, had on climate systems. They called it the "Pacemaker of the Ice Ages". Were are we currently as far as the tilt, orientation, and linear eccentricity?

Haven't we had enough of single tidbits of data being used to explain extremely complex and interrelated concepts?

Something still needs to "perturb" it.
 
Lowest ice cover ever at both poles

From the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences
To understand Greenland’s ice of today researchers have to go far back into Earth’s history. The island’s lithosphere has hot depths which originate in its distant geological past and cause Greenland’s ice to rapidly flow and melt from below. An anomaly zone crosses Greenland from west to east where present-day flow of heat from the Earth’s interior is elevated. With this anomaly, an international team of geoscientists led by Irina Rogozhina and Alexey Petrunin from the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences could explain observations from radar and ice core drilling data that indicate a widespread melting beneath the ice sheet and increased sliding at the base of the ice that drives the rapid ice flow over a distance of 750 kilometres from the summit area of the Greenland ice sheet to the North Atlantic Ocean. . . .

Random cut and pastes have been laughed off this discussion long ago.
 
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Mann is ahead of the game in that he is a smart man. He can ahead of time choose what he wants as data to get the results he wants.

This is another step of his methods being revealed, and for him to go down in disgrace.

Yeah! And seven years later, no one has seemed to follow up on this horrible data manipulation and disgrace, while in the meantime he continues to be considered a preeminent earth scientist by his peers, which incidentally don't include armchair amateur deniers.
 
Yeah! And seven years later, no one has seemed to follow up on this horrible data manipulation and disgrace, while in the meantime he continues to be considered a preeminent earth scientist by his peers, which incidentally don't include armchair amateur deniers.

LAFFRIOT. By 'his peers' , you mean other liberals.
 
No. He means people not blinded by their politics who actually know what they are talking about.

LAck of self awareness ALERT! LAFFriot!!
 
You can get help for it. Any peer reviewed journal. Avoid college dropout websites and stop following conspiracy theorists.

Thinking of you . . .

raw
 
Because it's not. You are mistaking portrayal of depth for portrayal of lateral spacing.

I was under the impression that warm water from the Carribean flows across the North Atlantic to Scotrland and this is called the North Atlantic drift/gulf stream/whatever.
 
Yes, and that is what is portrayed.

No. It is shwing flow in red up the coast of Africa and Europe and then changing it to blue and blow flowing along the east coast of America southwards.

Just wrong.

I am only the spot the obvious guy.
 
Thats good. It should make it much easier to get at the oil underneath now :wink:

Well, that's why they put the Exxon guy in. To relieve Russians sanction stopping them from drilling
 
No. It is shwing flow in red up the coast of Africa and Europe and then changing it to blue and blow flowing along the east coast of America southwards.

Just wrong.

I am only the spot the obvious guy.

No, again. It's just a problem of depicting a three-dimensional relationship in a two-dimension format. The red flow is up the east coast of the US but they had to leave room for the colder deeper reverse flow. They can't be pictured on top of each other so they're pictured side by side.
 
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