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Documenting the Global Medieval Warm Period[W:196]

Deuce said:
Yes, exactly.

You believe he was claiming the data is in every single paper ever published, on any topic, by any scientist, except that one.

That doesn't make any sense, Jack.
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No. His claim is that it was only omitted once, when in fact it was omitted almost every time.
 
Jack Hays said:
No. His claim is that it was only omitted once, when in fact it was omitted almost every time.
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That's what I said. Omitted once means included everywhere, except once.

Therefore, you think he is claiming the data was included everywhere, except once.

In all papers.

By all scientists.

On any topic.
 
Deuce said:
That's what I said. Omitted once means included everywhere, except once.

Therefore, you think he is claiming the data was included everywhere, except once.

In all papers.

By all scientists.

On any topic.
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He claimed it was omitted only once. I'm not responsible for his illogic and dishonesty.
 
Jack Hays said:
He claimed it was omitted only once. I'm not responsible for his illogic and dishonesty.
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No, he didn't say that.

He said there was one lapse in judgment.

Your interpretation is that this means "omitted only once from any paper ever in history."

But that's a ludicrous interpretation.
 
Deuce said:
No, he didn't say that.

He said there was one lapse in judgment.

Your interpretation is that this means "omitted only once from any paper ever in history."

But that's a ludicrous interpretation.
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I think it best to quote McIntyre here.

Emanuel says that hide-the-decline was a “single lapse of judgement”. More disinformation on his part. The decision to “omit” part of the record was made over and over. It began in 1999, but continued unabated through IPCC AR4.
Worse, the practice was directly challenged by an AR4 reviewer (me). I requested IPCC to show the decline and explain it as best they could. I said that the deletion of the decline in TAR was misleading and asked that they not do so anymore. Briffa refused, merely saying that it would be “inappropriate” to show the decline. This was not a “single lapse of judgement”. It was something that’s gone on for over a decade.
 
Jack Hays said:
I think it best to quote McIntyre here.

Emanuel says that hide-the-decline was a “single lapse of judgement”. More disinformation on his part. The decision to “omit” part of the record was made over and over. It began in 1999, but continued unabated through IPCC AR4.
Worse, the practice was directly challenged by an AR4 reviewer (me). I requested IPCC to show the decline and explain it as best they could. I said that the deletion of the decline in TAR was misleading and asked that they not do so anymore. Briffa refused, merely saying that it would be “inappropriate” to show the decline. This was not a “single lapse of judgement”. It was something that’s gone on for over a decade.
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It was "gone" except the papers that were published discussing it and analyzing it, sure. In those papers, the people you're pasting from had to move the goalposts: "oh sure they discussed the bad data but they didn't use this one particular graph!!"

In papers that didn't set out to analyze it? No, they didn't talk about it then. Why would they?
 
Deuce said:
It was "gone" except the papers that were published discussing it and analyzing it, sure. In those papers, the people you're pasting from had to move the goalposts: "oh sure they discussed the bad data but they didn't use this one particular graph!!"

In papers that didn't set out to analyze it? No, they didn't talk about it then. Why would they?
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Game over.
 
Jack Hays said:
Game over.
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Translation:

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Deuce said:
You even quoted the guy who talked about the papers that discuss it. Don't pretend they don't exist now.
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I'm not pretending anything doesn't exist. I find your statement incomprehensible. I said "game over" because you have been conclusively refuted about ten times and I think that's enough.
 
Jack Hays said:
I'm not pretending anything doesn't exist. I find your statement incomprehensible. I said "game over" because you have been conclusively refuted about ten times and I think that's enough.
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And I agree entirely that this is going nowhere. Your understanding of basic english has failed you.

For some bizarre reason, you think "single lapse of judgment" means something other than "there was one lapse in judgement."

For some bizarre reason, you think a man was trying to claim "this data is in every single paper ever published on any topic except one."

There's nothing to say to someone with such a fundamentally inaccurate perception of reality.
 
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Deuce said:
And I agree entirely that this is going nowhere. Your understanding of basic english has failed you.

For some bizarre reason, you think "single lapse of judgment" means something other than "there was one lapse in judgement."

For some bizarre reason, you think a man was trying to claim "this data is in every single paper ever published on any topic except one."

There's nothing to say to someone with such a fundamentally inaccurate perception of reality.
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You are free to defend liars to your heart's content.
 
Pacific Ocean Heat Content During the Past 10,000 Years [link] … Important research that Medieval warming Period was global.
 
Jack Hays said:
MedievalWarmPeriod / Paleoclimatology
[h=1]More evidence that the Medieval Warming Period was global, not regional[/h]From the “we have to get rid of the Medieval Warming Period” department. Even though this paper was published in late 2017, it was recently highlighted in EoS, as shown below. Michael Mann, and others, in their zeal to cover up warming periods of the past, to make it look like his hockey stick is…
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What is the origin of the diagram? It is not related in any way to the linked EoS article. There is mention of solar cycles causing the warming in Africa and Arabia but also that some areas experienced cooling owing to changes in ocean currents. Presently, we are in a solar minimum cycle, yet the earth is experiencing warming.
 
Somerville said:
What is the origin of the diagram? It is not related in any way to the linked EoS article. There is mention of solar cycles causing the warming in Africa and Arabia but also that some areas experienced cooling owing to changes in ocean currents. Presently, we are in a solar minimum cycle, yet the earth is experiencing warming.
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The map presents the results of 1,000 studies, as clearly stated.

And no, warming has ceased.
 
Jack Hays said:
The map presents the results of 1,000 studies, as clearly stated.

And no, warming has ceased.
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My opinion only but your detailed responses, all denying the reality of global warming, have caused me to believe that you are being paid for your posts by certain institutions. Just my opinion.
 
Somerville said:
My opinion only but your detailed responses, all denying the reality of global warming, have caused me to believe that you are being paid for your posts by certain institutions. Just my opinion.
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You are both wrong and insulting, but I suspect insult was your objective.
 
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[h=1]Study: Medieval Climate Change Existed in Africa[/h]From the Institute for Hydrography, Geoecology and Climate Sciences comes this paper that is just one more piece of evidence that the Medieval Warm Period was global, and not regional. Mapping Medieval Climate Change in Africa: Continental warming, coastal cooling and shifting rainbelts 1000 years ago Global climate is currently undergoing major change. Experts agree…
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