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2016 likely to be the warmest year ever recorded.

bubbabgone said:
When was 95% certainty arrived at?
If you consider the IPCC as the Bible, it was aborning with 100% certainty.
Do you really not realize that in its decades of existence the IPCC has always worked from the assumption that AGW is real and all its efforts and government money were expended to verify it?
That's not science ... that groupthink and career maintenance.
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Well, no.

This is why I gave you the link. Its for you to read.

And if you read it, you'll see that nothing in the IPCC is 100% certainty. Thats not how science works. Funny you havent gotten that concept over all these years.
 
Threegoofs said:
Well, no.

This is why I gave you the link. Its for you to read.

And if you read it, you'll see that nothing in the IPCC is 100% certainty. Thats not how science works. Funny you havent gotten that concept over all these years.
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What is the IPCC uncertain about AGW?
 
joG said:
Why are you upset? The technologies are coming on-line that will make it possible to stop climate gas exhaust, because they will be cheaper. As that happens we will introduce them without having to reduce our standards of living and without killing millions in the third world.
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Libruls say that about every year.
 
Mac77 said:
No one denies that climate change is natural except maybe liberal environmentalists who fear the end of the world
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Yes. When I was a child and read the Chicken Little tales, I laughed at them. Now I know they describe today's libruls.
 
bubbabgone said:
Can't you tell me what the IPCC is uncertain about regarding AGW?
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I did.

Every single point is on a continuum of uncertainty. They even define the terms quite clearly in a guidance note, and this is referred to often.

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/supporting-material/uncertainty-guidance-note.pdf

I love how you have absolutely no clue on the basics of the report, but you absolutely know it's wrong (despite not even knowing the claims!).

Normal people would be embarrassed by this.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Libruls say that about every year.
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When Bush made that argument over a decade ago it was correct , as it is today. He was right. We are now closer to alternative energy and fuels reaching breakeven. Some are already there. Wait another ten years and we might be there.
 
Mac77 said:
In about 1970 the environmentalists were arguing that global cooling was going to kill everyone

Paul Newman even made a movie about it to scare the public
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Ummmm, except:

Nilly said:
The ice age was never predicted by 'science' it was predicted by the media. There were only 7 papers predicting cooling. And they predicted cooling due to the emission of SO2 into the atmosphere, they also predicted that if we stopped emitting SO2 there wouldn't be global cooling. Guess what happened? Due to limits put on by congress we stopped emitting SO2.

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Regardless of the science in the 70's, we have 30 years more of data to draw on now, and overwhelmingly the science is settled that our rising CO2 emissions are causing global warming.
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Jack Hays said:
I don't know anyone who denies the recorded temperature data. The debate is about causation and climate sensitivity.
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Well Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and half the GOP for starters.

Threegoofs said:
I did.

Every single point is on a continuum of uncertainty. They even define the terms quite clearly in a guidance note, and this is referred to often.

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/supporting-material/uncertainty-guidance-note.pdf

I love how you have absolutely no clue on the basics of the report, but you absolutely know it's wrong (despite not even knowing the claims!).

Normal people would be embarrassed by this.
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Deniers never understand that uncertainty is a calculated and accounted for variable in scientific literature. They never seem to realize that, and just hand wave it away as 'you can't knooooow'. So ignorant.
 
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joG said:
When Bush made that argument over a decade ago it was correct , as it is today. He was right. We are now closer to alternative energy and fuels reaching breakeven. Some are already there. Wait another ten years and we might be there.
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No amount of chicken little global warming hysteria has resulted in any viable alternative fuels. In fact the cultish tin foil hat global warming hysteria has inhibited the development of alternative fuels.
 
Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but no. No one denies the recorded temperature data.
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Anyone who advocates for the 'pause' (I.e. those I mentioned) are denying the temperature record.
 
Nilly said:
Ah, so you're a denier of the temperature record too. Cool.
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When the Pause finally ended thanks to El Nino.

The sharp el Niño spike is just about to abolish the long Pause in global temperatures – at least for now. This column has long foretold that the present el Niño would be substantial, and that it might at least shorten if not extinguish the Pause. After all, theory requires that some global warming ought to occur.
This month, though, the Pause clings on. Though January 2016 was the warmest January in the RSS satellite record since 1979, the El Niño spike has not yet lasted long enough to end the Pause. That will happen by next month’s report. The RSS data still show no global warming for 18 years 8 months, notwithstanding record increases in CO2 concentration over the period.

The Pause hangs on by its fingernails

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley The sharp el Niño spike is just about to abolish the long Pause in global temperatures – at least for now. This column has long foretold that the present el Niño would be substantial, and that it might at least shorten if not extinguish the Pause. After all, theory requires…

February 6, 2016 in Hiatus in Global Warming.
 
Threegoofs said:
I did.

Every single point is on a continuum of uncertainty. They even define the terms quite clearly in a guidance note, and this is referred to often.

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/supporting-material/uncertainty-guidance-note.pdf

I love how you have absolutely no clue on the basics of the report, but you absolutely know it's wrong (despite not even knowing the claims!).

Normal people would be embarrassed by this.
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The IPCC decided years ago that they are 95+% certain of AGW.
Any uncertainty remaining lies in their future projections about the strength and effect of AGW.
Their entire existence going forward relies on AGW being considered to be fact.

Now, where has the IPCC indicated they weren't certain that humans are the primary cause of warming?
 
Jack Hays said:
The "pause" was part of the temperature record.
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Jack Hays said:
When the Pause finally ended thanks to El Nino.

The sharp el Niño spike is just about to abolish the long Pause in global temperatures – at least for now. This column has long foretold that the present el Niño would be substantial, and that it might at least shorten if not extinguish the Pause. After all, theory requires that some global warming ought to occur.
This month, though, the Pause clings on. Though January 2016 was the warmest January in the RSS satellite record since 1979, the El Niño spike has not yet lasted long enough to end the Pause. That will happen by next month’s report. The RSS data still show no global warming for 18 years 8 months, notwithstanding record increases in CO2 concentration over the period.

The Pause hangs on by its fingernails

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley The sharp el Niño spike is just about to abolish the long Pause in global temperatures – at least for now. This column has long foretold that the present el Niño would be substantial, and that it might at least shorten if not extinguish the Pause. After all, theory requires…

February 6, 2016 in Hiatus in Global Warming.
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Lol the pause isn't a statistical artifact born from a cherry picking of data (only taking atmospheric data), cherry picking he time period (beginning the 'pause' in an anomalous hot year) and being rather liberal with uncertainty.

Nothing about he actual temperature record suggests a pause (although there was a slowdown). If you're plugging a 20yr pause in global temps then you're denying the temperature record Jack. Simple as.
 
Nilly said:
Lol the pause isn't a statistical artifact born from a cherry picking of data (only taking atmospheric data), cherry picking he time period (beginning the 'pause' in an anomalous hot year) and being rather liberal with uncertainty.

Nothing about he actual temperature record suggests a pause (although there was a slowdown). If you're plugging a 20yr pause in global temps then you're denying the temperature record Jack. Simple as.
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18 years 8 months, actually. It seems you're the one doing the denying.
 
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