Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015) ALL 1998-2015

mbig · Nov 28, 2016

With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than previous incremental jumps.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

Renae · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST. 2015 beating 2014 by even more than past increments.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

Cause weather isn't climate.

countryboy · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST. 2015 beating 2014 by even more than past increments.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

Which definitely means we should take money from this person, and give it to that one. :roll:

16 years on the geological clock ain't even a millisecond. Gimme a break. You are dismissed out of hand.

mbig · Nov 28, 2016

Renae said:
Cause weather isn't climate.

That is Worldwide CLIMATE for 135 YEARS.
At best you have a serious Language problem.
Doncha love when clueless conservatives embarrass themselves by just picking a side for political reasons.

joG · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than past increments.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

It's a winning streak!

longview · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
That is Worldwide CLIMATE for 135 YEARS.
At best you have a serious Language problem.
Doncha love when clueless conservatives embarrass themselves by just picking a side for political reasons.

The problems the concept know as AGW has is all about data, and little about politics.
Seeing a string of record years in a period that was warming anyway, is not too surprising.
The observed warming has been fairly continuous since the mid 1800's, so the effort is to find
an Anthropogenic cause within the existing warming.
Adding CO2 does cause some warming, but not the catastrophic amount predicted by the IPCC.
The IPCC's model looks like this,
CO2 warming 1.1 C, Plus predicted amplified feedback on that 1.1 C of between .36 Times the input to 4 times the input,
ending up with an ECS between 1.5 and 4.5 C.
At issue, from a science perspective is how much amplified or attenuated feedback will be attached to the CO2 warming?
While the data does support some minor amplified feedback, it appears to be at the low end of the IPCC's ECS range,
with many researchers finding an ECS of 2 C or below.
All of the is predicated on our ability to actually double the CO2 level, before the viable alternatives become commercially viable.

Renae · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
That is Worldwide CLIMATE for 135 YEARS.
At best you have a serious Language problem.
Doncha love when clueless conservatives embarrass themselves by just picking a side for political reasons.

You are the one believing the madness about AGW, not me.

Steve Case · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than previous incremental jumps.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

World average temperature has been up and down since the 1850s but mostly up to the tune of around a degree in all that time.
Sort of like climbing a mountain. In general where ever you are at the moment it's the highest you've ever been on the climb.
The only question is how high is the mountain. There are lots of charts illustrating historical temperatures that help answer the
question about how warm it might eventually get. Here's a good place to start: Historical Temperatures - Charts/Graphs

Tim the plumber · Nov 28, 2016

It is a bit warmer now than in 1970.

Good. Nice isn't it?

I hope it gets warmer still. There are only good things about a slightly warmer climate.

The highest projections of the IPCC seem to be clearly not happening, sadly, so those temperatures of 3.4c over now are not going to happen but we can still hope that we at least get half way there..

Jack Hays · Nov 28, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than previous incremental jumps.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods
1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

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Lord of Planar · Nov 29, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than previous incremental jumps.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

Yes, land use changes do remarkable things to temperature monitoring sites.

jmotivator · Nov 30, 2016

mbig said:
That is Worldwide CLIMATE for 135 YEARS.
At best you have a serious Language problem.
Doncha love when clueless conservatives embarrass themselves by just picking a side for political reasons.

On a planet where climate can change in cycles of 10,000+ years a 135 year time span is nothing.

Any trend derived from an arbitrary temporal selection is also arbitrary.

mbig · Nov 30, 2016

jmotivator said:
On a planet where climate can change in cycles of 10,000+ years a 135 year time span is nothing.
Any trend derived from an arbitrary temporal selection is also arbitrary.

Then you Really should have obejected to LowDown's ONE YEAR ANECDOTE (1922) OP.
....as "historical record"!
http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...749-historical-records-arctic-ice-extent.html
What Disingenuous Garbage!
I guess you missed it.

And of course "135 Years" closely Mirrors the Industrial Revolution/Emissions.
Coincidence?

Oh, and have 10x that period!

Sciam

Extreme Hockey Stick is Glaring.

Fletch · Nov 30, 2016

mbig said:
With the last Two, and 3 of 4, the HOTTEST.
2015 beating 2014 by even more than previous incremental jumps.
And all but one in this century.
and yet we read about a/another "PAUSE" in one Deluded Climate-denier-Blog string.
WTF!
and 2016 is on course to BUST the last few.

NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Anomaly charts With Degree Differentials/Anomalies can be see at website above or at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_periods

1 - -- - 2015
2 - -- - 2014
3 -- - - 2010
4 - -- - 2013
5 - - -- 2005
6 (tie) 1998
6 (tie) 2009
8 - -- - 2012
9 (tie) 2003
9 (tie) 2006
9 (tie) 2007
12 - - - 2002
13 (tie) 2004
13 (tie) 2011
15 (tie) 2001
15 (tie) 2008

Why do these Chicken Little, left wing wacko, extremist, global warming doomsday threads always have their data starting point in 1880?

But more importantly, please give me the exact steps that must be taken on a global scale to stop this horror in its tracks and reverse the trend.

And don't feel bad about not answering that. None of you fear mongers ever do. Your goal is to inspire fear, which in turn will lead to greater state power over the lives of the individual. Not actually solve the supposed problem.

Lord of Planar · Nov 30, 2016

Fletch said:
Why do these Chicken Little, left wing wacko, extremist, global warming doomsday threads always have their data starting point in 1880?

But more importantly, please give me the exact steps that must be taken on a global scale to stop this horror in its tracks and reverse the trend.

And don't feel bad about not answering that. None of you fear mongers ever do. Your goal is to inspire fear, which in turn will lead to greater state power over the lives of the individual. Not actually solve the supposed problem.

And the Chicken Littles wonder why they are losing people who believe in their dogma.

mbig · Nov 30, 2016

Fletch said:
Why do these Chicken Little, left wing wacko, extremist, global warming doomsday threads always have their data starting point in 1880?

Because that's when they started keeping Yearly Climate records?
DOH!

And you could Not have missed the TWO "1400 Year" Charts, so you DISHONESTLY Ignored them.
DOH!

Fletch said:
But more importantly, please give me the exact steps that must be taken on a global scale to stop this horror in its tracks and reverse the trend.And don't feel bad about not answering that. None of you fear mongers ever do. Your goal is to inspire fear, which in turn will lead to greater state power over the lives of the individual. Not actually solve the supposed problem.

I love the old Goofy/DISHONEST Burden-Shift Fallacy.
I do Not have to tell you how to Cure Lung Cancer, just because I tell you (and we know) smoking contributes to it.
DOH!
I mean, this is junior-high level chicanery attempt. Perhaps more a function Blind Partisanship than of debate Inability.

Lord of Planar said:
And the Chicken Littles wonder why they are losing people who believe in their dogma.

He actually botched it terribly and Dishonestly and I GUTTED him.
Your post, even worse, was just a high-five of a Failed one.
As always.

LoP will 'reply' to this (last-word) but could NOT answer my post above either. So he High-fived Fletch, who Faked it.

Jack Hays · Nov 30, 2016

mbig said:
Because that's when they started keeping Yearly Climate records?
DOH!

And you could Not have missed the TWO "1400 Year" Charts, so you DISHONESTLY Ignored them.
DOH!

I love the old Goofy/DISHONEST Burden-Shift Fallacy.
I do Not have to tell you how to Cure Lung Cancer, just because I tell you (and we know) smoking contributes to it.
DOH!
I mean, this is junior-high level chicanery attempt. Perhaps more a function Blind Partisanship than of debate Inability.

He actually botched it terribly and Dishonestly and I GUTTED him.
Your post, even worse, was just a high-five of a Failed one.
As always.

LoP will 'reply' to this (last-word) but could NOT answer my post above either. So he High-fived Fletch, who Faked it.

Too much bitterness to be useful, knowledgeable or persuasive.

mbig · Nov 30, 2016

Jack Hays said:
Too much bitterness to be useful, knowledgeable or persuasive.

I answered All his points 100%.
You are welcome to try and show how I didn't, instead of your usual Empty one sentence. (LOFL, Can't happen)
It doesn't matter what you think, or that you put up another Empty 9 words. In fact, that's about all you ever put up, with or without a Link after it.
Your post had NO Topical content.

Jack Hays · Dec 1, 2016

mbig said:
I answered All his points 100%.
You are welcome to try and show how I didn't, instead of your usual Empty one sentence. (LOFL, Can't happen)
It doesn't matter what you think, or that you put up another Empty 9 words. In fact, that's about all you ever put up, with or without a Link after it.
Your post had NO Topical content.

There are climate records before 1880. No burden-shifting if what you say "we all know" is in fact at issue. Too much arrogance; not enough interest in discussion.

mbig · Dec 1, 2016

Jack Hays said:
There are climate records before 1880. No burden-shifting if what you say "we all know" is in fact at issue. Too much arrogance; not enough interest in discussion.

That's NOT the question/he asked/I answered.
It was NOT about "Climate records" in general. "1880", AGAIN, has to do with the beginning of the National Weather Service and much more accurate numbers.
And I also posted two charts of 1400 Years of Sea Ice (Fletch Ignored, Now YOU), so OBVIOUSLY I understand there are older "records".
DUH!
But again, I answered/Refuted everything he said, and you CANNOT answer how that isn't/wasn't true.
Dishonest deflection, but you did make it out to 27 of your own words! Nearly two lines!

Jack Hays · Dec 1, 2016

mbig said:
That's NOT the question/he asked/I answered.
It was NOT about "Climate records" in general. "1880", AGAIN, has to do with the beginning of the National Weather surface and much more accurate numbers.
And I also posted two charts of 1400 Years of Sea Ice (Fletch Ignored, Now YOU), so OBVIOUISLY I understand there are older "records".
DUH!
Dishonest deflection, but you did make it out to 27 of your own words!

I'm not responsible for the incoherence of your posts.

mbig · Dec 1, 2016

Jack Hays said:
I'm not responsible for the incoherence of your posts.

But you are responsible for the Vacuousness and Dishonesty of your own posts. See the last page... and whole section/board for that matter.
Again, I (alone) answered ALL topical content.

Board take note of how this string/Actual Numbers HURTS the denialists.
Generally, they cannot answer except for laughable deflection.
Thankfully, one of them Unwittingly keeps bumping it anyway.

Jack Hays · Dec 1, 2016

mbig said:
But you are responsible for the Vacuousness and Dishonesty of your own posts. See the last page... and whole section/board for that matter.
Again, I (alone) answered ALL topical content.

Sorry, but I don't think you did.

mbig · Dec 1, 2016

Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but I don't think you did.

Lying again I see.
I already asked, l and you FAILED to show what parts of his post I didn't answer.
See my #16.

I answered all of them, including the "1880" and (pre-1880) "Climate" part I just Re-Busted You on.
Jack (and now-vanished Fletch prior) had Dishonestly Ignored the fact I had put up two charts of 1400 year old Sea Ice records.

Normally I wouldn't answer these Clownish, necessarily under 10-worders from Jack, but hey, the topic/headline alone Hurts the other side, so I'll play.
(and may do so again/Bump it at a time of my choice if this post too is 'last-worded')

Hawkeye10 · Dec 1, 2016

I am all for making preparations for a warmer Earth.

If that was want out leaders wanted to do then I would support them.

But they aint that bright.

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