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Our potential neverending American hot summer

beefheart said:
We had the most days ever over 110 here in PHX. It has been a hot hot summer. Thankfully, I have a new A/C unit that has been good, and economical...but..damn
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I'm looking forward to my retirement in Prescott.
 
Rico Suave said:
I've lived in the Tampa area for 30 years. High temps generally topped out in the high 80's and several below freezing nights. Now it's more like 92+ Haven't had a freeze in 4 years.

It really not a point of argument anymore...
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Yes, land use has a profound effect.
 
Threegoofs said:
Except the predictions have been spot on. Thirty years ago, they predicted you'd be lining in the warmest decade warmest year and warmest month. You are.
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30 years ago, they knew that they aerosols attenuated the solar forcing, and we were on our way to clearing the skies.

It was a 100% certainty that clearing the skies would warm the surface more.

Why can't people stop using that absolutely, idiotic argument?
 
jmotivator said:
It has already been pointed out to you over and over that the last 150 years of the Marcott reconstruction is, by Marcott's own admission, not statistically significant and unusable as a comparison. So thanks for proving that Marcott's reconstruction shows the MWP is warmer than recorded temperatures and shows the current temps are not "unprecedented".
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It's actually the Pages 2k data around your all important MWP....think if you were so interested in the truth, you would have noticed.
 
Threegoofs said:
Especially when they use it to extract carbon and dump it in the atmosphere by the gigaton!

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That is not land use changes...

You have never learned this topic. Why don't you play elsewhere and leave us adults alone?
 
azgreg said:
I'm looking forward to my retirement in Prescott.
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I'm looking forward to my retirement in Ireland...and Vietnam, and Costa Rica....as long as I still have flight bennies.
 
Threegoofs said:
It, of course, does.

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Apples and oranges, The average daily summer highs have decreased slightly.
Analysis of diurnal air temperature range change in the continental United States
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This finding was also mentioned as far back as 1896 in Svante Arrhenius's paper,
http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf
Where Arrhenius notes that Tyndail thinks the effect mostly lessened the seasonal and diurnal variation.
The Diurnal temperature range is decreasing, mostly because the T-Min is increasing.
For the century between 1911 and 2012, the Summer and Fall T-Max actually decreased.
 
Lord of Planar said:
30 years ago, they knew that they aerosols attenuated the solar forcing, and we were on our way to clearing the skies.

It was a 100% certainty that clearing the skies would warm the surface more.

Why can't people stop using that absolutely, idiotic argument?
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They'd have to change who they are first.
 
longview said:
Apples and oranges, The average daily summer highs have decreased slightly.
Analysis of diurnal air temperature range change in the continental United States
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This finding was also mentioned as far back as 1896 in Svante Arrhenius's paper,
http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf
Where Arrhenius notes that Tyndail thinks the effect mostly lessened the seasonal and diurnal variation.
The Diurnal temperature range is decreasing, mostly because the T-Min is increasing.
For the century between 1911 and 2012, the Summer and Fall T-Max actually decreased.
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Thanks for showing us the averages and pretending they are record highs.
 
Threegoofs said:
Thanks for showing us the averages and pretending they are record highs.
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If the summer T-Max temperatures are not increasing on average, they are not increasing.
 
Lord of Planar said:
True.

Hard to enlighten an idiot.
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"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - Don Marquis


The CAGW Church is all about making people think they are thinking.
 
jmotivator said:
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - Don Marquis


The CAGW Church is all about making people think they are thinking.
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How can they possibly think that regurgitating other peoples words, and following them like lemmings, is thinking?
 
Lord of Planar said:
How can they possibly think that regurgitating other peoples words, and following them like lemmings, is thinking?
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They offload their own personal intellectual responsibility onto others so that they don't have to think. This is why such anti-science arguments like "consensus" play so well to their congregation.
 
Threegoofs said:
Tell me about it!

Some of us have been working on it for months here.

The Smart Idiot Effect
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Is this you, 3G?

[h=2]7th retraction for Ohio researcher who manipulated dozens of figures[/h][FONT=&quot]without comments[/FONT]
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Terry Elton
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A pharmacology researcher at Ohio State University has added his seventh retraction, four years after a finding of misconduct by the U.S. Office of Integrity (ORI).
An analysis of the work of Terry Elton determined that he had
falsified and/or fabricated Western blots in eighteen (18) figures and in six (6) published papers.
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In 2012, the ORI finding, which resulted in a three-year funding ban (that is now complete), recommended that Elton retract all six papers, one of which had already been retracted at the time of the report.
Four years later, the last of the six papers flagged by the ORI has finally been retracted by Molecular and Cellular Endocrinology.
Here’s the retraction notice: Read the rest of this entry »
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Jack Hays said:
Is this you, 3G?

[h=2]7th retraction for Ohio researcher who manipulated dozens of figures[/h][FONT=&quot]without comments[/FONT]
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Terry Elton
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A pharmacology researcher at Ohio State University has added his seventh retraction, four years after a finding of misconduct by the U.S. Office of Integrity (ORI).
An analysis of the work of Terry Elton determined that he had
falsified and/or fabricated Western blots in eighteen (18) figures and in six (6) published papers.
​
In 2012, the ORI finding, which resulted in a three-year funding ban (that is now complete), recommended that Elton retract all six papers, one of which had already been retracted at the time of the report.
Four years later, the last of the six papers flagged by the ORI has finally been retracted by Molecular and Cellular Endocrinology.
Here’s the retraction notice: Read the rest of this entry »
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What do you expect from Ohio State?

Immediate suspicion with that school.
 
jmotivator said:
They offload their own personal intellectual responsibility onto others so that they don't have to think. This is why such anti-science arguments like "consensus" play so well to their congregation.
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Yes.

Congregational consensus...
 
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